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Dave Duffy

My kids will get the H1N1 vaccine

Sunday, October 4th, 2009

Unless I discover other evidence to the contrary, my research so far says my children should get the H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine. There are risks with the H1N1 vaccine, as there are with any vaccine, but the risks of getting swine flu appear to be greater. Here are a few pieces of information weighing on my decision:

-Swine flu attacks pregnant women and people born after 1976 far more often than it attacks older people, and it is more severe for that younger crowd. About 28 pregnant American women have died of swine flu.
-Swine flu vaccine is a killed vaccine so you can’t get the flu from it.
-You apparently only need one shot, which protects you in a week to 10 days.
-There may be a remote chance of a very severe side effect called Guillain-Barre Syndrome, which is an attack on the nervous system. The rate may be about 1 in one hundred thousand people, and it can lead to death.
-Some people could have a severe allergic reaction, including Bell’s (facial) palsy, fainting, and fever, but this is likely to be rare.
-Swine flu has been relatively mild for most people, but has required hospitalization in intensive care for others. Four thousand have died worldwide in the last six months.
-Tamiflu and Relenza are effective at curbing the symptoms and severity of swine flu. (I have three doses of Tamiflu in my medicine cabinet).
-Here’s the one that worries me: Swine flu may be able to swap its genes with bird flu (H5N1 flu A strain), which still infects some people in Asia due to their contact with chickens. Bird flu has a fatality rate that is fairly high, although I doubt it’s as high as the 60 percent many internet articles report. (Other articles say the method of calculating deaths is flawed). Bird flu doesn’t seem to spread easily from person to person (you need to have direct contact with poultry), but if it swaps genes with swine flu it may become very infectious. I don’t know how remote this possibility is.

Here are the main online tips to keep from spreading or getting swine flu:

-Cover your nose and mouth with a tissue when you cough or sneeze. Throw the tissue away after using it.
-Wash your hands often with soap and water, especially after you cough or sneeze. You may also use alcohol-based hand cleaners.
-Avoid touching your eyes, nose, or mouth, to avoid getting infected by germs.
-Avoid close contact with sick people.

This is all casual research on my part. I have yet to put Silveira on the task. The internet is loaded with claims and counterclaims about the severity of swine flu, bird flu, and regular flu. I could be off-base on some of this stuff. If so, someone please correct me.

Interestingly, I’m doing my research while reading Jared Diamond’s book, “Guns, Germs, and Steel,” which is, in part, an account of the way various human populations have been replaced over the millennia by means of infectious germs. With the help of modern vaccines, we have a chance to stop this brutal historical process of Nature.

A year from now, we may look back on this flu season and say it was much ado about nothing. But that will be Monday Morning Quarterbacking. Right now there is a decision to be made: Do I run the risk of my kids getting swine flu that could develop into something serious at a time when the country’s health system is liable to overburdened due to an H1N1 pandemic, or do I protect them with a vaccine that could have some rare but serious side effects?

I’m opting for the vaccine, and I’m grateful the U.S. is apparently going to have enough of it. Some third world countries will not. I just hope the vaccine gets here before the swine flu does.

10 Responses to “My kids will get the H1N1 vaccine”

  1. anotherkevin Says:

    Here in Colorado, swine flu is here, and rampant in the schools, while the vaccine is not. So far two of my kids have had it, and I believe I did too. I had the regular flu shot in September. About 90 kids in our small middle school have been out. It seems that we know directly or indirectly a LOT of people who have this flu or have had it, but so far, no cases have required any medical care.

  2. Brogan Says:

    The idea of a flu shot is great. The presumed intent of a vaccination is to help you build immunity to potentially harmful organisms that cause illness and disease. The vaccines that are developed must be matched to the specific virus PERFECTLY. If not they will be ineffective period. Viruses mutate that’s why there is no cure for the common cold, most times the virus mutates quicker then the vaccine being produced, rendering the vaccine useless (something they don’t tell you).

    Why are Vaccinations Dangerous?
    The main ingredient in a vaccine is either killed viruses or live ones that have been attenuated (weakened and made less harmful). Flu vaccines can also contain a number of chemical toxins, including ethylene glycol (antifreeze), formaldehyde, phenol (carbolic acid) and even antibiotics like Neomycin and streptomycin (Ask to look at the insert that comes with the vaccine and see for your self what’s in there).

    In addition to the viruses and other additives, many vaccines also contain immune adjuvants like aluminum and squalene.

    The purpose of an immune adjuvant added to a vaccine is to enhance (turbo charge) your immune response to the vaccination. Adjuvants cause your immune system to overreact to the introduction of the organism you’re being vaccinated against.
    Adjuvants are supposed to get the job done faster (but certainly not more safely), which reduces the amount of vaccine required per dose, and the number of doses given per individual.

    Less vaccine required per person means more individual doses available for mass vaccination campaigns. Coincidentally, this is exactly the goal of government and the pharmaceutical companies who stand to make millions from their vaccines.

    Will There Be Immune Adjuvants in Swine Flu Vaccines?
    The U.S. government has contracts with several drug companies to develop and produce swine flu vaccines. At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are using an adjuvant in their H1N1 vaccines.

    The adjuvant? Squalene.
    According to Meryl Nass, M.D., an authority on the anthrax vaccine,
    “A novel feature of the two H1N1 vaccines being developed by companies Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline is the addition of squalene-containing adjuvants to boost immunogenicity and dramatically reduce the amount of viral antigen needed. This translates to much faster production of desired vaccine quantities.”

    Novartis’s proprietary squalene adjuvant for their H1N1 vaccine is MF59. Glaxo’s is ASO3. MF59 has yet to be approved by the FDA for use in any U.S. vaccine, despite its history of use in other countries.

    Per Dr. Nass, there are only three vaccines in existence using an approved squalene adjuvant. None of the three are approved for use in the U.S.

    What Squalene Does to Rats:
    Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time.

    A 2000 study published in the American Journal of Pathology demonstrated a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation,” also known as rheumatoid arthritis.

    The researchers concluded the study raised questions about the role of adjuvants in chronic inflammatory diseases.

    What Squalene Does to Humans:
    Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.

    The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

    Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.

    Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene. MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.

    The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP).

    However, the FDA discovered the presence of squalene in certain lots of AVIP product. A test was developed to detect anti-squalene antibodies in GWS patients, and a clear link was established between the contaminated product and all the GWS sufferers who had been injected with the vaccine containing squalene.

    A study conducted at Tulane Medical School and published in the February 2000 issue of Experimental Molecular Pathology included these stunning statistics:

    “ … the substantial majority (95%) of overtly ill deployed GWS patients had antibodies to squalene. All (100%) GWS patients immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert Storm who did not deploy, but had the same signs and symptoms as those who did deploy, had antibodies to squalene.

    In contrast, none (0%) of the deployed Persian Gulf veterans not showing signs and symptoms of GWS have antibodies to squalene. Neither patients with idiopathic autoimmune disease nor healthy controls had detectable serum antibodies to squalene. The majority of symptomatic GWS patients had serum antibodies to squalene.

    According to Dr. Viera Scheibner, Ph.D., a former principle research scientist for the government of Australia:
    “… this adjuvant [squalene] contributed to the cascade of reactions called “Gulf War Syndrome,” documented in the soldiers involved in the Gulf War.
    The symptoms they developed included arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), Raynaud’s phenomenon, Sjorgren’s syndrome, chronic diarrhoea, night sweats and low-grade fevers.”

    Post Vaccination Follow-Up Might as Well Be Non-Existent
    There is virtually no science to support the safety of vaccine injections on your long-term health or the health of your children. Follow-up studies last on average about two weeks, and look only for glaring injuries and illnesses.

    Autoimmune disorders like those seen in Gulf War Syndrome frequently take years to diagnose due to the vagueness of early symptoms. Complaints like headaches, fatigue and chronic aches and pains are symptoms of many different illnesses and diseases.
    Don’t hold your breath waiting for vaccine purveyors and proponents to look seriously at the long-term health consequences of their vaccination campaigns.

    I’ll take my chances with the swine flu…

  3. Karen Says:

    I’m surprised at your decision, Dave. I wouldn’t let them stick their poison in me. FTR, I didn’t vaccinate my children when they were young either and they were healthier than any of the kids they went to school with.

    In addition, from what I can see about your lifestyle (long time subscriber here), you and yours are not around that many people. That along with a healthy lifestyle should protect you from pig flu.

    Just my 2 cents and best wishes. :o)

  4. Debby Rich Says:

    Thank you so very much about the
    research on the swine flue. We were
    tossed back and forth on what do about
    the vaccines also.

  5. Dave Duffy Says:

    Brogan’s comment is essentially a “canned” broadside against vaccines — lots of supposed facts presented as hard evidence, but the supposed facts are refuted by CDC, WHO, various studies, etc. The refutations are far more credible as far as I can tell. There are risks, that’s for sure, but I have read nothing that convinces me to give credence to this type of concern.

  6. David Says:

    “Swine flu attacks …. people born before 1967 far more often than it attacks older people” I am confused. Born before 1967 would mean anyone older than 42 qualify as higher risk, but older people are apparently have lesser risk. Anyone know why this 42 YOA to mid 60’s age group has a higher risk factor? This is the first I have heard of it. TIA

  7. Dave Duffy Says:

    Oops! I made two errors: It should have been the word “after” and not “before,” and the date should have been “1976,” not “1967.” I’ve corrected both mistakes in the text.

    There was a swine flu vaccine administered in 1976 also. Maybe this is the connection. However, the CDC says those vaccinated in 1976 still need to get this new 2009 vaccine to be protected against this new strain of swine flu: This is from their site:(

    “Do those that have been previously vaccinated against the 1976 swine influenza need to get vaccinated against the 2009 H1N1 influenza?

    The 1976 swine flu virus and the 2009 H1N1 virus are different enough that its unlikely a person vaccinated in 1976 will have full protection from the 2009 H1N1. People vaccinated in 1976 should still be given the 2009 H1N1 vaccine.”

  8. NaNa is Texas Says:

    I heard on the news this morning that studies showed out of Mexico that the early flu “survivors” were the ones that had regularly taken the seasonal flu shots. For its worth, my husband has refused to take any seasonal flu shot. I have taken them regularly for the past ten years.

    He got the seasonal flu last year and was miserable with fever for a week. He was a pitiful site. I have never had a case of true “flu” with all the symptoms such as fever, etc. All that came in contact with him, children and grandchildren had their shots and he was the only one that got it. Even after the week of misery he had, he still swears he will not get either shot.

    Me, I’ll be one of the first in line when they say it is my time and my turn.

  9. Matt Says:

    Dave, thanks for your insights about getting the swine flu shots. Personally, I am undecided. My children are grown and will have to decide for themselves. I don’t normally get seasonal flu shots and have avoided the flu the last several years. I watch my hygeine, and try to keep my immune system bolstered during flu season and/or when the stress levels seem to be higher. I am generally non-gregarious and do little socializing outside of work. I also get to work with a normally very healthy portion of the population (Soldiers) and don’t get a lot of virus passed on. I do watch out for bouts of intestinal viruses which abound in my community, and have had hepatitis vaccines over the years when going into situations I expected to be exposed. I’m not anti-vaccine, but am just not a trusting person.

    I inherently distrust the government and the big corporations that manufacture the vaccine. Neither entity has my best interests in mind, and don’t really give a flip if I personally contract swine flu. The government doesn’t want to lose the taxpayers or the impact on the economy of larg amounts of people out sick, the medical corporations just want to make the money from selling the vaccine (with little or no liability if it goes bad) and medical supplies that go along with flue season.

  10. Paul Says:

    I think your readers may find these three articles interesting:;cbsnewsLeadStoriesSecondary

    If you “think” you’ve had swine flu, or even if your doctor “told” you did, unless you had a culture done to confirm it, the odds are you didn’t have it. At least up until July of this year. After July they stopped testing people so now no one, not the CDC, you or your doctor have any clue how common H1N1 is. I guess it just makes it easier to scare people by claiming all flu symptoms are from H1N1.

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