Backwoods home retreat, but from who?

[sethwyo]

As i am getting older(28 this month) i am looking for a mate, I started to think how having a woman around would be an extra brain and set of hands, And also a heart for the many things that those things are needed for.
I have been thinking of my country home and some of the women i have known.
My family homesteded here over 100yrs ago, At my grandmothers funeral thay said 'strong christian woman'
hard working, dedicated, mother, wife, and told stories about her home made bread.
I look back rember the storie of my uncle taking a shot at her, when he was in his teens, *She was abusive to her family. *I look at my aunt, she has been a thief and liar her whole life, And abused her children, Like her mother.
I am growing taters in tires, layering them, I stopped shoveling sawdust mulch to rest a minite, and looked at a mound out in the field, And rembered, My dad had dug a small resuvor in the field with his john deere caterpiller, to water the acers of crops 'thay' wore planing to grow, He had just got married. I rember as a child wondering why a hole full of junk was right in the middle of the field. *He had been working in the oil field, he came home one evening to find that she had taken everything she could lift from the house, and loaded it in the car and dumped it into the resuvor. I rember the only time she ever got out of bed was to ruin whatever project was going on around the farm, I would watch her going around breaking whatever items she could.
The caterpiler was sold off years ago to support her.
My dad tried to raise pigs for a while, One day we discovered that one of the weiners was gone. *my older sister of about 15 began accusing me of killing it, And * then hidding the body. She called me some volger names telling me she was going to kill me for it, this really hurt me, as young as i was, She realized she had power over me, She thought she could have her way and get away with it, using the pig as an excuse. dad soon found the hole under the wall in the shed where the pig had escaped, and then the pig. * It is, in a sense,
Amazing what a person will do to another, When thay think thay can and can get away with it. About that some time she also began telling of a MAN that was hiding on the place, with a gun, and how he would come out every night and have sex with her, she began making up other stories which wore really her own fantisies, claiming it was a true storie she had read somewhere. over the years the stories changed a little, Now over 30, she still talks of nothing but men with guns raping women, teling very detailed accounts that she claims to have seen on some news show. she takes in young women from a local school as free borders. Some of them leave, some of them are too scared to leave, she has control of them. My parents go
to visit another couple, i rember sitting at their table one evening long ago (to me) as this woman claimed to have been molested as a child, And as she 'smiled' while describing mutlating a mans genetals with kitchen utinsels. * *
my parents took foster children for a while, mom and sisters became demon possesed. *thay abused the children-all boys- In every way thay could.
I cannot relate the abuses that i have suffered at the hands of women cops lawers and court clerks, All while *claiming to be victims of the male dominated socitey.
Another female family member would jump up and began shouting about all men being sex perverts at the mention of anything, she pluged the memory of the family computer up with down loaded porn till it froze up.
She abused and even killed pet animals, such as kittens
Into her teens, she is married now and everyone asks her when will she have some kids?.
I met a young ladie on an internet dating site, she messaged me claiming that i had viewed her profile, we began to chat over a few weeks, She considered herself a medical profeshional, About drugs and vacines
Any and all of which she would give to her infant daughter, The father of which she 'got ride of'(her words) after she got what she wanted from him, then she began telling me about how i " had no idea the grief that women suffer from men because i was a man"
And how she and all the other medical workers kept the doors locked on the medical building, and would not go out side in to the street, Because of a regustered sex offender who worked some where near by, *He must be guilty, no one ever is faultsly accused by the courts, they spent their time checking the internet for regestured offenders,
And then going by their houses, following them, like some other poor little things that kidnapped a young boy and tortured him.
In my man hood, i would strap on my charcoal burner and go for a walk through the field and over the hills through the woods, my mother would see me from the window of the house thay lived in as i walked down the road to the field, *She would hide behind the door till i was going past, "what are you going to do" she would jump out and hiss, *After more than a few times of this i quit explaning that i was going for a walk and began ignoring her, "What are you going to do with the gun?"
She would scream after me, over and over.
She keeps her own hand gun, for 'All those men' she talks about coming out to 'get her'.
I look around me, At a sudivision, where the wife divorced her rancher of 46 yrs and took the place and sold it, that area is now a zoo full of rich yupies, At the sexual assualt victims office, and the feminazie whos husband in the sherifs dept keeps her happy by bringing her new victims.
I rember in the 2nd grade(?) an older girl in her teens following the little boyes around striking their rear ends
And the teachers laughing about it, she did it to me and i punched her back, (backside that is) I was given a serious talking to by the teachers and sent to the principals office, "Girls dont like to have their bottoms touched" "you must learn to respect women by respecting girls"
Today i go to town, and meet women every where that will attack me at the turn of a store isle,
I wonder if the reason i have really retreated to the woods and produce my own food and energy, is so i can be independent of the system that produces and supports such people, preadators.
And i wonder, Do i want to risk bringing one of them into my life out here where i am trying to get away from them?
Posts welcome.

[flatwater]

Are you saying all woman are that way or just the ones in your family? It sounds like someone took the fun out of disfunctional in your family. So sorry bud.
Flatwater

[WileyCoyote]

Holy crap, sethwyo, haven't you met any decent women?

While I have known a lot of "Christian women" who were anything but, and a lot of manipulative, cruel, vicious, and smiling-with-the-knives-at-the-ready females, I have met my share of the same types of men, too. I don't think it is all one gender, but pretty much equally divided between the two.

I am in the 'way back because of BOTH genders; I am as sick of the women that lied to, whimpered at, cussed at, and struck at me as I am of the same types of men! There seems to be a lot more "me FIRST, last, and always" people out there than there used to be, of both sexes... I like very few people, and trust even fewer.

[Drawbar]

Do everyone a favor and stay single. As someone else said, if you have not found one good woman in your life, its most likely your attitude towards them that is slanting your view. Right or wrong, I'd stay single which seems to me would make you the happiest in the long run.

[wy0mn]

We're all nuts Seth, men & women.
I've had five wives and two of them we're mine! Last two were internet romances that led to intros, affairs, and finally a marriage thats currently in its tenth year. Glad I lived thru that mid-life crisis!

Lifes a hoot boy, enjoy it. Stay single a bit more. Meet some folks who haven't been driven crazy by the wind, and cabin fever. I wouldn't advertise for a "mate", gals don't usually like to be thought of as brood mares, freshened heifers, nor bitches in heat.

If your looking for a devoted female friend try the WV coalmine towns. Those gals have nothing, and would appreciate a bus ticket outta there! The same is true for most of KS that I've seen.

If you find one who seems right and starts acting squirrely, show her the movie "A Boy and His Dog".

Lex

[MotherCharlotte]

I agree with Wiley. There are a lot of selfish, scummy people out there today, both male and female. It sounds like you have met more than your share of females with no conscience, but I hope you realize that not all women are like that!

There are still good people in the world of both genders. Maybe they're harder to find than in the past, but they're there.

If you don't think you will ever be able to trust in a woman, because of the resentment you still have for those you have known, then maybe as Drawbar said it is better if you remain single.

[seekeroftruth]

OK. I'll be the bad guy here and the voice of reason.

First of all, that was the most unintelligible thing that I've ever had to force myself to read.

Second. What's wrong with you people? Quit mollycoddling the boy.

I'm sorry that your mom and gramma and your sister were the way they were. I imagine there is more to the story. The fact that your sister even suspected you of killing that pig, tells me that she probably was basing it on past offenses by you toward the farm animals.

The fact that you have had all these "Abuses" at the hands of cops, lawyers, and court clerks, tells me that you have probably had more than your share of run-ins with the law. Based on your attitude toward women and other things you have said leads one to believe that you may be an abuser of women and children, and that those may be the reasons for your spending so much time in the court system.

I'm sorry but I just dont believe a word of this. I have a feeling you are making yourself out to be a victim, like so many of societies dregs do now adays, to make excuses for YOUR behavior.

I spend anywhere from 12 to 16 hours a day in public. Meeting women all the time either professionally or socially or just passing in the street and stores and I have NEVER met one like the ones you describe here.

Where do you live that all these women are like that?

Reading between the lines again and based on statements you have made I imagine that those women in the stores that want to attack you are tired of you following them, and stalking them and leering at them.

Heres my advice. Leave women and children alone. Dont follow them around store aisles, ogling them and making rude comments to them. Make sure you do what your probation officer tells you to do. Think about taking some night classes in English and Grammar, and finally, seek some professional help. I've never been a fan of head shrinks before, but if anyone needs one, it's you.



seek.

[mom]

OK. *I'll be the bad guy here and the voice of reason.

First of all, that was the most unintelligible thing that I've ever had to force myself to read.

Second. *What's wrong with you people? *Quit mollycoddling the boy.

I'm sorry that your mom and gramma and your sister were the way they were. *I imagine there is more to the story. *The fact that your sister even suspected you of killing that pig, tells me that she probably was basing it on past offenses by you toward the farm animals.

The fact that you have had all these "Abuses" at the hands of cops, lawyers, and court clerks, tells me that you have probably had more than your share of run-ins with the law. *Based on your attitude toward women and other things you have said leads one to believe that you may be an abuser of women and children, and that those may be the reasons for your spending so much time in the court system.

I'm sorry but I just dont believe a word of this. *I have a feeling you are making yourself out to be a victim, like so many of societies dregs do now adays, to make excuses for YOUR behavior.

I spend anywhere from 12 to 16 hours a day in public. *Meeting women all the time either professionally or socially or just passing in the street and stores and I have NEVER met one like the ones you describe here.

Where do you live that all these women are like that?

Reading between the lines again and based on statements you have made I imagine that those women in the stores that want to attack you are tired of you following them, and stalking them and leering at them. *

Heres my advice. *Leave women and children alone. *Dont follow them around store aisles, ogling them and making rude comments to them. *Make sure you do what your probation officer tells you to do. *Think about taking some night classes in English and Grammar, and finally, seek some professional help. *I've never been a fan of head shrinks before, but if anyone needs one, it's you.



seek.
Amen

[sethwyo]

Thank ya'll for your responses, I think these forms where people can discuss their interests and problems with others are great. * I wrote about women because i am a man and dont really care about other men, Nothing personal against women in general, only some personal concerns women who are sick in the head. You dont know what someone is going to do untill after thay do it. *I always like reading wileycoyote 's posts, I think you should change your handle to ROADRUNNER, *The roadrunner was everyones favorite, and it fits you better than wiley coyote. *Yes i have met some very nice women, *most of them had family that they needed to give the boot to, but wouldnt, and i didnt want to inherit a bunch of worthless inlaws. *I dont have a 'slanted view' of anyone. * Except stupid people.
But there are too many women who want to use a man to reinact a movie scene thay saw on the lifetime ch.
I like a little bit nuttie, but not that nuts. *One time a ladie friend brought up the subject of me and her and marriage, I asked her how many cows did she think her dad would take for her? She got upset and quit talking to me, *Im glad i found out what she was made of, she needed to grow up.
I would have liked her to have a witty come back, like the farmer who took his date on a tour of his farm, as thay sat on a fence they saw two cows touching noses as if thay wore kissing, the farmer said to his date 'i sure would like to do that' she said 'well, go ahead thay are your cattle'.
I lived in KS for several yrs, the town i lived in had a group of junior high girls who held a contest to see which one of them could get pregnant and have a baby first. the one that won ended up being a co-worker of mine. it was scary.
Thay tell me that MTV came on the same year i was born, i think That has a lot to do with the way people my age behave. *A educated friend told me that she thinks the reason a woman attacked me at the store was because she wanted attention, She wanted to be noticed, And was too imature to say "hi, do you come here often?"
Some women dont want the solitude of rural living, And dont like the idea of butchering 'chickie' for fryin'. *then there are those that when i talk about nutrition and diet and the intestine and healtyness, thay think i want to have some kind of wierd sex with them.
I removed one message here, because it was only a RE-posting of another post and nothing else.
Im glad that the seeker of truth also posted, So that an example of the kind of person i was writing about can be viewed in his own words. *Someone that dosent know me but makes faults and perverse accusations, And why?
I do not now nor have i ever had a P.B officer. *Stalking and harrasing women, AND even children?
This is what i was writing about! *Someone who dosent even know me Attacking me out of nowhere, Claiming numerous criminal acts, this person finds out i have had some trouble and so begins lying about me, why?
And tells me I need a shrink?
A person was shown a picture of a *car, And asked what do you see?. *he/she said i see someone kidnaping children and forcing them into a car trunk, then driving the car around stalking people, Then a *picture of a house, What do you see? he/she *says someone breaking into a house and murdering everyone there.
The person was told that thay had a perverse mind,
And that thay wore obsessed with violence and criminal acts, he/she responded- Well you are the one with all the pictures of it, I was only telling you what i saw!
Six people read my post and repliy, one of them writes about Discusting things that WORE NOT there. *
Its true, some people attack others, and try to make the victim look like the badie.

[mom]

DUH

[flatwater]

Use your spell check if you have one. But I'm one to talk mi smelling is attroscience.
Flatwater

[mom]

Seth, I realized as soon as I came on this forum that you hate women. So why are you worrying about finding a woman. You are obviously more suited to a solitary life. If you want a partner in life, take a bath, put your nicest clothes on and try to treat the women in the world exactly how you would like them to treat you. And maybe be a gentleman.

[CarolAnn]

Seth,

What you describe is something lived by many people. One problem is that our culture does not teach young people to check out the gene pool before they jump in.

I've known too many men AND women that made their choices of a life mate based on looks rather than on character. While there may be some folks who are beautiful inside and out, and others who are ugly inside and out . . . that's just no way to tell either one.

Character is built one decision at a time. If you make the decision to do the right thing - again and again - and associate with others who choose to do the same thing, you will soon be able to tell what kind of character a possible mate has. And you will also be able to attract such a mate to yourself and worthy to keep her once you do.

[sethwyo]

Hello carolann.
T=D=A=H=L=C
Thoughts lead to Desires, which lead to Actions,which lead to Habits, which lead to Lifstyles, which lead to Character.
Your post was the wisdom i was begining to think i would not hear, *Everyone wants 'The perfect person' *thay want that person to be just right for them, Few want *'To be the perfect husband/wife for the other person, Its 'accept me as i am' *thay dont want to change for the other person, To be what that person needs. Two people both wating for the other to get up and make them happy. *people do only care what someone looks like, *On a dating site a ladie contacted me, she said she was very excited that she had found me, later we wore doing a live chat, and she realized that i was several years younger than she, I figure she had not even read my profile, She later told me she had been attracted to me because i looked like some male models in a pinup magazine she read. Another young ladie wanted me to send her more pictures of myself but would not send me any of herself, She was worried that i wouldnt like the way she looked, and would stop writing her. I'm not sure what to think of that, she seems confident of herself, I wonder why if she thinks that i wont want her company because of the way she looks, then why does she want to communicate with me?
Well, satian never misses an opportunity, to give someone a lie, and destroy. Satain understood from the begining that the way to destroy man was to get the woman first. When the women of a society fall, everything falls.

[otobesane1]

You remind me of my brother. According to him, all women are whores, manipulators, liars and out to steal a man's soul. He will never admit that the sweet wife of his just couldn't take his deviant sexual behavior any further.

You got problems that we can't fix here. Hope your life turns out better.

TK

[GoodDaughter]

No kidding! The depth of this guy's mental problems is a bit too deep for anyone here to give advice about. I couldn't even finish reading his two rants. Professional help would be best.

However, this reminds me of a man who used to post here about 3 or 4 years ago....

[justgettinby]

Women, Men, Relationships, Dating Marriage, Sex,....

These have been discussed by humans since shortly after the beginning of time. We as males will never understand the female mind, just as females will never understand the male's mind. Some women want a soap opera husband, some men want a porn star wife, some women want an honest man to take care of their needs, some men want a reliable wife to care for their children. etc....

No matter what we want, we as humans must understand that we are individuals, as individuals we are selfish and sometimes not understanding about one's needs, or wants.

I believe that there is not one perfect person out there for everyone. I believe that there are many people out there for everyone. We have to find one of those near perfects and decide to work together to make a marriage and family work.

A jaded mind from past experiences will make it hard for you Sethwyo, but YOU have to overcome that obstacle to make it work. I don't know you and won't pretend to know you, but if you are anything like the way you express yourself in these posts, then I too agree that you are making yourself out to be a victim to the female society. Why not look past the past and make a decision to look at the positives in females for awhile.

Take it from someone who has found a good wife and quit looking for the perfect female that's willing to give up her will and look for one that is willing to WORK in a relationship. Not all women are the way you are describing some.

Some women are looking for a man that wants to be a man, and some are looking for a man that will be their girlfriend. As for me my wife wanted a man to run our house with strong christian principles and a firm hand, and I wanted a women with strong christian principles and would take care of our family. We found each other and it works out really well.

Just my opinion.

[rachark]

"Thay tell me that MTV came on the same year i was born, i think That has a lot to do with the way people my age behave. A educated friend told me that she thinks the reason a woman attacked me at the store was because she wanted attention, She wanted to be noticed, And was too imature to say "hi, do you come here often?" "

There is SO much wrong with this. I am of the MTV generation also, and that is a RIDICULOUS argument! As any semi-intelligent human being can realize, MTV (or any other TV channel)is not ANY excuse for terrible behavior!
And the girls attacked you to get attention? That is the most insane excuse I have ever heard. That is worse than using MTV as an excuse!

I am not trying to attack you at all, but your posts suggest that you have many, many problems with women, and possibly with people in general.
I am a young woman, and have never in my life done anything REMOTELY like anything you have described. I am sorry that you have had bad experiences, and have met some bad women, but you really should try to understand that all women are not like that. And perhaps, if you have had THIS many bad experiences with women, you could ask yourself: What am I doing wrong? How can I change, to attract the RIGHT kind of women?
I think that it may be a good idea for you to seek some kind of professional help, because after THIS many bad experiences, your opinion and attitude toward women could definitely use some work.

Good luck with everything, and God bless.

[sethwyo]

Would it be 'insane' to faultsly claim that someone said something that thay really did not say? Like claiming that i said that MTV is an excuse for bad behavior when i NEVER DID? Nowhere did i excuse anyone or anything. I NEVER wrote that- i herby EXCUSE that persons bad behaviour because of MTV. " And that is a ridiculous argument"(your quote) I was not arguing for or against anything, I was stating a fact, Social studies show that people are affected by what thay see and hear growing up, Any semi entelligent person would know that, but what is wrong with you that you tell me that i said and did something that i DID NOT do or say, do you think that i am going to believe you?
I know what i wrote. I posted some thoughts and concerns about making another person a very intimate part of my life, And the problems that may come. And you LIE and claim that all my post was < ' all women are evil' -end of post.> All women are not like that? really? Do you really think that i am going to believe that i wrote that, becuse you claim that i did, when we both know that I DID NOT...?

[rachark]

" I lived in KS for several yrs, the town i lived in had a group of junior high girls who held a contest to see which one of them could get pregnant and have a baby first. the one that won ended up being a co-worker of mine. it was scary. Thay tell me that MTV came on the same year i was born, i think That has a lot to do with the way people my age behave."


Sorry if I misinterpreted the way you meant this statement. In the context however, it is misleading.

I said: "I am sorry that you have had bad experiences, and have met some bad women, but you really should try to understand that all women are not like that. "

No where in my last post did I claim that you hate all women or that you said so. I merely meant to suggest that while you have had many bad experiences, they should not color your opinion of our entire sex.

--Just defending my thoughts and OPINIONS--

[seekeroftruth]

Sethwyo,

You are seriously delusional, or a down right liar.

I haven't accused you of anything, my "probation officer" comment was I admit a bit "tongue in cheek"

Your 'everyone's against me, and women are evil' attitude is creepy at best, downright disturbing at worst.

You stated on 15 Jul 08 in this thread:

"I lived in KS for several yrs, the town i lived in had a group of junior high girls who held a contest to see which one of them could get pregnant and have a baby first. the one that won ended up being a co-worker of mine. it was scary."

I don't believe you in the least.

You also stated:

"she began making up other stories which wore really her own fantisies, claiming it was a true storie she had read somewhere. over the years the stories changed a little, Now over 30, she still talks of nothing but men with guns raping women, teling very detailed accounts that she claims to have seen on some news show."

That was in reference to your sister.

It seems to me that you are doing the opposite, taking news stories and pretending that they happened to you. *I dont believe that you had a group of school girls making pact's, I believe that you took that off the recent news about those girls in New Jersey that allegedly did that.

You also wrote:

"Someone who dosent even know me Attacking me out of nowhere, Claiming numerous criminal acts, this person finds out i have had some trouble and so begins lying about me, why?
And tells me I need a shrink?"

I wasnt accusing you of anything, Just putting two and two together based on what you state about yourself. *Women DO NOT just go around attacking you for no reason. *Not in the extremes that you say it happens to you. *You make it sound like everytime you go out you are attacked.

One can reasonably gather that you are doing things to make them attack you. *Then I found your posts on the "Child Molestation in America" thread. *Which pretty much confirms what I figured out about you.

You stated on 11 Jul 08:

"I have known several men who wore faultsly accused of sex crimes, myself included. *"

And on 12 Jul 08 you said:

"I was never officialy charged of found guilty of it. *But 'thay' made sure that every where i go i will be red flaged. *And ten years later there are still charges pending for numerous criminal accusations."

What do you mean by "every where i go i will be red flaged(sic)" *does that mean that you had to register as a sex offender? *Charges dont remain pending for 10 years based on false accusations.

And apparently it wasnt just one woman, You also state:

"Those women wore sadistic, thay enjoyed what thay did to me. Thay tore my life apart, and perverted every aspect of it. * my 'victims' would attack me in public *"

Just how many are we talking about? *I honestly can't imagine a group of women conspiring against someone for no reason to tear your life apart. *

You stated:

"Two or more women trapping a man, accusing a him of violation."

Like the rest of your posts, I imagine there is alot more to the story.


The fact that you loathe women and in my mind wouldn't hesitate to hurt them is attested to by your posts.

You stated on 11 Jul 08:

"grown persons who molest children have a problem with their emotional attractions. thay cannot bond with people their own age,

Where i live their are a lot of a certain type of people who are quite ignorant and primitive, *But believe that thay are god almighty, Thay cannot work with a mature woman, with a mind of her own. Because she is smarter than thay are, and their up bringing wont allow them to accept this."

This describes YOU. *You admit that you cant have a normal relationship with a woman because they are out to get you and attack you at the turn of a store aisle.

You think that all women are out to get you and I believe based on your own posts that you are a abuser of them.

You wrote on 14 Jul 08:

"besides, if thay never got caught then no one would know that thay wore doing it. *Its not the media, its the MAN-HATERS. *"

As far as the child abuse is concerned, you wrote on 11 Jul 08:

"I have seen groups of them as thay watch children walk down the street, There is no doubt what will happen if there is an oppertunity." *

I have never seen groups of Child Molesters walking down the street. *Where do you live that you have "groups" of them walking down the street???

You have proven by your own words that you loathe women, feel victimized by YOUR "victims" and based on the pending charges against you for 10 years Abuse them.

Again I say seek professional help, and stay away from women and children. *And do the world a favor stay single, until you work out these issues.

seek

[MNMOM]

??? ??? ???
I'm really puzzled after reading all this. It sounds as if you really need someone in a professional setting to talk to.

Maybe you should also relocate.

[tufhelp]

Sniff... sniff... sniff, what is that, troll? Sniff...

[Dobelo17]

Okay I have to weigh in on this issue. I have been reading and not saying much but here goes. I think that their are
jerks on both sides of the coin here. Men and Women.
I am married to a control freak, he goes through my stuff,
he insults me at every turn, He ruins most of what I try to accomplish(garden, raising animals for food, orchard and
berry bushes.) He takes all our money and spends it and then conmplains because it is gone. Orcording to him I am a person to stupid to do even the simplest task can't even weed the garden right. This is supposed to be the guy who loves me??? :o THat is on the male side. Know lets get to the female side 14 yr old girl at my sons school decides he should be her boyfreind so she starst telling everyone at school they are dating. Not true my son told her she was to young for him he was going to be 17. SHe then made up a
story and reported to the police that she was having sex with my son in a small town not far from here. THey call my son on the phone at 9:30 at night and tell him not to worry the girl is no longer going to press charges against him she changed her story. My son and Husband go to the police station the next morning to find out what the hell is going on. The police officer is not sure why they came down she isn't pressing charges so what is the big deal. My husband
asks to talk to who ever is in charge of the case. Officer replys I am. We asked why we were never contacted before he states that he interviewed her father and was told
that they were dating my son had even been to their house.
WHen my son said he didn't even know where she lived and had never dated her the officer was a little confused why would her dad lie? My husband said maybe you should go ask them. We finally got her into troble because she kept calling my son on the phone and harrassing him at school.
I talked to the cheif of police and found that my son wasn't the only one she was lying about. I told them I would fill a restrainig order if she came near my son again. SHe got of with having to write a letter of apology to my son and getting a social worker to keep better track of her than her parents. Not much considering my son would have went to
jail and would have to be listed a sexual predator because
they consider him an adult a 17 and she is still a minor at
14. SO you see I have it from both sides of the coin so my advice is if you dislike women so much stay single. It won't last anyway. ANd just so you know I am making plans to
leave my husband as soon as I have enough money saved
up. Try not to feel to sorry for him though he has a brand new house all the toys a guy could ever need and his momma will move in to take my place the minute I am out the door.

Becky

[Drawbar]

I've been trying to be nice, but as someone suggested, this may be a troll because no person can really be this dumb. I am sorry Sethwyo, but you just HAVE to be deliberately misspelling words...the following is just too ironic not to be a put on...


Social studies show that people are affected by what thay see and hear growing up, Any semi entelligent person would know that

entelligent??? You mean intelligent???

Now enough of that silliness....

Becky my dear, please run from that relationship. I am not a marriage councilor, nor am I one to propose divorce or split ups of any kind, but I can not see anything good coming of that relationship.

As for my own marriage,if you read my post on the Sex-Sub Forum, you know that I suffer from issues myself. It just really makes me mad that there are good women out there that are just begging for decent men in their lives, and yet here I am, never have cheated on either wife, don't drink, smoke and have never even tried drugs; am a darn good father, work non-stop to provide for my family, and have a family that is pretty well set money wise and material wise. You would think that I have done SOMETHING right?

You would not know it in my house...

Becky I feel your pain from the other side of the coin. I know exactly how you feel. If you can get out, I hope you can. You certainly sound like you can do better.

(PS...I am not a woman-hater in any way, I just don't like how I am currently being treated. There is a difference.

[sethwyo]

Helo becky.
If you have the time i would like to hear more from you, your experiences and opinions about bad relationships.
Are you planing for what will happen when your hub finds out you are goining to leave? Watch out, Contril freaks often consider others their own property, And if he and mommy decide to punish (in their minds) you, For leaving, Well, think what if the girl had pressed the charges, It is so simple for some people to lie, and easy to get someone into serious trouble.

[WileyCoyote]

But sethwyo does bring up an interesting point - why are some folks reclusive and want to live in the backwoods or somewhere away from people, and some simply cannot?

Doesn't it have something to do with the way we are raised, or what experiences we have had, that make us want to be either reclusive or gregarious?

I have a dear friend who always says that he wants to be a hermit, that he trusts no one (except me) and that he really would prefer to be alone, hunting, fishing, and raising his own food. Yet he owns a prosperous public business, and loves to be the center of attention, and is always out front and center! Does he do it (as he says) to keep his business going, or does he do it because, no matter what he says, he really needs the attention?

I left a place where I was a busy and productive member of society; involved in many boards, chaired several, ran several organizations, managed several businesses in succession. When I packed up to move, everyone was floored. "But you are such a people person!" No, I'm not. I just know how to get things done, and I got tired of doing them for others, decided to do them for ME. I don't like people, for the most part. IMHO and experience, they usually come toward you with their hands out and always wanting more. They are never satisfied until they have drained the complete and total life from you, sucked you dry, and then get MAD if you tell them that they are on their own, you are going after what YOU want! So does that make me a sociopath, because I choose to leave the dependent masses of greedy and selfish society behind and seek my own happiness? I don't think so - but then of course I wouldn't, would I? ;)

People head to the back of beyond for a variety of reasons - or even use excuses or insist that they are being rational (SHTF, etc). But the people who are GOOD at surviving on their own, who choose not to be around others, who don't get cabin fever or don't start pining for another trip to town or another Starbucks' white chocolate mocha latte, may just be those adjudged to be 'sociopaths' because they are, and may have personal reason to be, antisocial.

Let me state in Sethwyo's defense that some of the places I've lived (that did not emphasize education over dependence) have produced the same types of folk he describes - the teens competing to have babies first, the women that expected their lives to be either soap opera heaven or an ongoing soap opera tragedy, the adults that were physically and emotionally abusive to not only their immediate families but everyone around them, the constant subjection of others to lies, thefts, and character assassination. Perhaps Sethwyo comes from one of those places. They are not indigenous to one state or even one geographical area, but there are pockets of them everywhere. It is entirely possible to believe that this sort of nasty, dependent behavior, the low expectations of oneself and others, may be all that he has experienced. I've seen that sort of behavior infect an entire town, an entire county, and they run off those who do not subscribe to or practice it. THEN they blithely insist that this is NORMAL behavior! And it is - for them. You cannot cure them, fix them, or satisfy them. BUT you cannot ever assume that this is all there is, either! There really are whole areas that seem to attract such agonized and tortured people. One friend said of one town, "It's like there's a huge freaking magnet under this town, that draws them here, or makes them stay once they get here!"

Bottom line, we all come from different educational, emotional, and mental states in this forum, and judging a 28-year-old's frustration of believing there is something better, but not having the experience, knowledge, or support to know what it is or how to go about achieving it, is not in my nature. Practicing psuedo-Freudian diagnostics on peoples' writings isn't, either. If people ask a question or have a problem, it should be answered to the best of one's ability and personal experience and in the spirit in which it is written. That's JMHB (Just My Humble Belief).

Drawbar, I have always been impressed with your common sense and thoughtful discussion of topics here, and am surprised that you feel that you are not thought well of in your own home... Becky, you do need to get out of that situation ASAP. There is a better world out there, there ARE some decent people - just don't expect either pure saints or devils. People are usually a mixture of both. It is which (saint or devil) takes precedence that matters! And that goes for you, too, Sethwyo! PS I have to be Wiley - hubby is the Roadrunner! LOL

[Drawbar]

I know a guy at work that is the same way WileyC...the biggest proponent of homesteading there is and all he talks about is how he wants to be left alone, live alone, stay alone etc....

That is all well and good, but they guy is completely incapable of it. At work he has to get help for the simplest of tasks...not thought related tasks, but tasks like moving stuff, and stuff that can be moved by himself. At home he has to get his brother to help him with firewood, and to help him put up tree stands and stuff.

Myself I am the opposite. I am a chatterbox, but I pretty much do things by myself...things I shouldn't, like going for 400 mile snowmobile rides. Or logging. I do a lot of logging in a year and I always do it alone. I even built a 28 by 40 foot addition last year and never once had help (other then the earthwork). I just do things myself, or find ways that let me get the job done by working by myself. It's a mind set I think.

In short some people are just that, talk. Myself I am happiest when I am alone and at home. The perfect weekend for me is arriving home on a Thursday Night and not leaving until Monday morning to return to work (I work 4 day work weeks). The first wife hated it and the second wife is starting to resent it.

[seekeroftruth]

I’m sorry and apologize. *I have seen the error of my ways and have put up my soap box in place of my violin. *How silly of me in thinking that it was his fault, in the choice he has made to, quite apparently, repeatedly sexually assault women. *I have seen the light. *It is the fault of his environment and the society around him. *So I will now play a sad song in his honor.

Nothing make’s me want to puke more than people that defend immoral, deviant behavior and put the blame on society, or upbringing. *Cry me river.

It makes me sick that we now live in a society where people are no longer held accountable for their own choices and actions and instead blame it on others.

I realize now that instead of putting to death or locking up for life the murderers, rapists, child molesters, thieves, and others, we should instead be putting to death and locking up their parents, and neighbors, and teachers, and everyone else that they came in contact with. *It is very clearly their fault, not the fault of the person that made the bad decision. *

Sounds disgusting doesn’t it? *

No one here is trying to psycho analyze sethwyo. *He is the one that chose to make his disturbing criminal past, and thoughts public. *And like the rest of his ilk, he chooses to blame others for his choices. *His mom’s at fault. *His sister is at fault, the school girl he sexually assaulted is at fault, the women in the stores are at fault, the numerous victims of his sexual assault are at fault. *The cops, lawyers, and judges are at fault. *

Grow the hell up. *People everyday rise above their surroundings and overcome their upbringing to become moral, hard working people. *Sethwyo and people like him, only want to hear opinions that validate their worthless sorry lives, lives that they themselves are responsible for, not their parents, not society, but them.

Every time someone makes the argument that it is their environment that caused their aberrant behavior, takes away from those that over come their environment to become productive members of society.

There are those that are molested that go on to be loving parents, those that are raised in drug households to grow up and never do drugs. *People that grow up with government bilking, welfare parents, that decide they didn’t want to be a drain on society like those around them and chose instead to work hard for a living.

It’s time people stopped babying the sick, demented, sociopathic members of our society and start blaming them. *Until people hold them accountable, they will continue to be justified in their actions. *And it seems in sethwyo’s case he will continue to sexually assault women. *The next time you hear about a rapist, or child molester, or burglar. *Try realizing that they made that choice, not their victims, not society.

Seek

[bookwormom]

I guess I'll add my two bucks worth.

first of alll, we are all victims of victims, to quote Louisa L. Hay.
and of course we are a product of our environment and terrible damage can be done. I think seth has a point about MTV and TV etc. I think it is naive to assert that all that stuff has no effect upon the young. nothing comes from nothing and there is a reason there are so many warped souls.
years ago when I was staying with my MIL who had her leg in a cast, I was also babysitting SIL children. I may have stated elsewhere that I do not have TV. so I was aghast at what granma was watching and letting the 12 year old grand daughter watch. I asked, is the kid allowed to watch stuff like that (it was on sopa operas) and grndma said that kids nowadays get to see everything. Next day the kids mom gave me a dressing down to not intervere how she raises her kids and she wants her daughter to see that to learn what life is all about. yeah, life is a soap opera.
the girl is now a social worker who works with troubled children.

why does the homesteading way of life have to be a life of total seclusion? I know some people who live way back but raise nary a garden nor a chicken, meet you with a gun , and haul in the beer and booze.

I like to work and do, but I wish for some sociable neighbors of like mindset. I do miss community. I have lived in a good homesteading community in my youth and it will be with me all my life.
You all may disagree but I do think that TV has had a detrimental effect on society as a whole, (and please do not quote the history channel).


truth seeker, aren't you going off the deep end a bit?

also, problems exist to be solved. if you want a helping hand you will find one at the end of your arm. It is your responsibility to overcome and heal the tragedies in your life. when the student is ready the teacher will appear. (sorry, I have this thing about proverbs for every occasion)

[WileyCoyote]

Bottom line, we all come from different educational, emotional, and mental states in this forum, and judging a 28-year-old's frustration of believing there is something better, but not having the experience, knowledge, or support to know what it is or how to go about achieving it, is not in my nature. Practicing psuedo-Freudian diagnostics on peoples' writings isn't, either. If people ask a question or have a problem, it should be answered to the best of one's ability and personal experience and in the spirit in which it is written. That's JMHB (Just My Humble Belief).



I have not arbitrarily decided that Sethwyo is an abusive whiny woman-hater. He (states that he) is 28 and has not had good experiences. Rather than becoming reclusive and not talking about it he talked about it - and got castigated for it. I do not excuse anyone for their behavior, nor have I ever said that someone was not responsible for their own behavior, and my posts on this entire forum show that. I said that I saw why he might have that belief and attitude, but - having never seen his behavior towards women - I will not assume it. It sounded like an expression of pure frustration to me. There is a huge difference between stating thoughts and feelings, and acting-out behavior. Arbitrarily assuming that sethwyo has a "probation officer" assumes - as does much of the castigation he has received - facts not in evidence.

I simply do not see the reason for chewing someone out for asking questions or for help to understand something. Your posts here are vehement and violent and telling people whom you do not know to "grow the hell up" only displays your own self-promoting aggression. However, I reflect that no one on the Internet displays their whole and/or true selves, so I won't judge you either. If Sethwyo felt comfortable relating his history here, and asking for help to understand, this may be the only place he feels that he can. I will not argue with you further. I prefer rational discussion and reason, even humor, to shouting, insults, and self-aggrandizement to force an issue, or my beliefs about it.

Drawbar, everyone has different approaches to life and their own drives. I am very reclusive at times, will lose myself in my basement shop for hours working in clay and forgetting all else - even to eat! - around me. I like to go for long walks alone (especially in the snow), be gone most of the day, or to go out and hang with the animals for hours. While some folks around me might find this as a rejection, others find it a comfortable time for them to be alone too. Perhaps your drive to excel in a few 'alone time' endeavors is misinterpreted by people around you. I was surprised to discover that many people are actually hurt by other peoples' need to occasionally be alone, as my father instilled it in me at an early age. Because of both my hubby's and my respect for each other's 'alone time' , our adult children have developed an understanding and appreciation of that need to be alone, and practice it in their own lives now! But some people really do see it as a rejection of their companionship. Maybe that's all it is in your case - a misunderstanding? Or as one person put it to me, "What am I supposed to do when you go off like that?" Some people are just not happy alone, are frightened of it, and are frightened and resentful when someone they are close to seems to choose to be alone rather than enjoying their constant company...

[Suzy]

I think the main problem with a lot of folks these day is they have no "moral compass." There just seems to be nothing that clearly defines "right" and "wrong."

One bit of advice from this 56 year old slowly aging free spirit is to TAKE YOUR TIME, don't rush into anything, and REALIZE THAT TRUE HAPPINES IN LIFE must be found in yourself.

You can't depend on a girlfriend, soulmate, wife, or any family member to make or keep you happy. You must find that place in yourself where you know true peace before you will ever be truly happy in any relationship.

This is NOT New Age garble. This is just sound old Christian principles.

The women in your life who were supposedly "good Christians" were anything but.

Go slowly, do a lot more maturing. Best wishes.

[Dobelo17]

Willey and Drawbar,
I understand your need for alone time. I like to go sit out side and just listen to the birds and the leaves rustling in the trees. It is so peacefull and calming.
I used to spend hours out in the barn watching the
animals play. I had to sell due to and allergy so now I
watch the birds and the deer and turkeys. Also my new puppy. I have lived with an abusive husband for along time so I think I can understand some of seths frustartions. I wouldn't try to give any advice since I
have so many issues my self I just think he should give
it some more thought. I would find it hard after this
relationship to even think about dating again. I wouldn't trust my own judgement. I am working on
getting out of this relationship but there are road blocks. My son is diabetic and his medical bills are very large so I need my Husbands insurance. If my job wasn't so unceratin with them threating to cut jobs all the time I could plan better. I have had 5 different bosses in the last 6 yrs so you never know what they are going to do. enough rambling. Have a great day and thanks for your input.

BEcky

[Dobelo17]

Hello Sethwy,
My thoughts on bad relationships are probably not good for a forum like this. The list of offenses is to long and would take up alot of space. I have learned alot of
things the hardway. That control freaks always win no
matter what and that there are some real weird people
in the word. However I try to find something good to
get me through the day. Like my children are beautiful
and soon this will be over. I know exactly how mad
my husband will be that is why I plan on moving to a
different state. Not mad that I am gone but that the
paycheck I bring in is gone. I have a fairly good job
and make what the average household makes in a
year. SO that will really cut into his play money. His
Mom will probably move right in she has been trying to take over the house for the last 4 yrs. SHe told me what I did and didn't need in my house, she arranged my kitchen how she wanted it while I was at work,
and she told us this spring that the house needed repainting. Sonny hopped rgiht to and painted the whole dam thing. Maybe he should have married her.
enough rambling. If your would like send me a message and I will answer back. Good luck.

BEcky

[seekeroftruth]

I agree as well that TV doesn't do society as a whole any good. *I never said that we arent shaped by our past and surroundings. *but to blame your own behavior on your past or surroundings is ridiculous. *And worse for society than TV ever could be.

I would like to know what "deep end" im going off of. *

As stated before my "probation officer" comment was made tongue in cheek.

I would love more than anything to know what definition of "vehement" you are using. *If you mean impassioned, heartfelt. *Then yes. *I do get very upset when people attack innocent women and then blame it on their mommy, or other factors in their lives. *But, since you use it in the same sentence as "violent" I gather you dont mean it in that sense.

So I ask you to please give me an example of anything "violent" in any of my posts. *Other than, of course, quotes from sethwyo himself talking about hitting women and his own violence toward women resulting in "numerous charges" still pending.

Also while you are searching for suitable quotes, find some examples of me shouting at, or being insulting to poor old sethwyo.

As for anything "self-aggrandizing" *I'm not sure I mentioned myself in there anywhere other than how I feel about predators passing blame.

And you can't "force" someone to your beliefs, especially on an internet forum. *Thats just silly.

As for sethwyo. *Do me a favor. *If you take MNMOM's advice and relocate, move to where bookwormom, and wileycoyote's daughters and granddaughters are. *I'm sure in their neighborhood you will find a sympathetic ear.

seek.

[Terri]

For many years, my daughter saw only what was dark in life. She saw the pain and the sorrow, but not the joy. She saw the people who were bad, but not the ones who were good.

In other words, she was surrounded by good people, but she absolutely ignored them. Of course they ignored her back: wouldn't you?

Seth, MOST of the women out there are good and honorable people: why have you not noticed them?

My daughter was eventually diagnosed and medicated, and the people she hangs out with now are reasonably good people. She JUST COULD NOT SEE THEM before because they were not doing things that were cruel. *

Again, most of the people I have seen in this world were reasonably decent people. But, like my daughter, you do not seem to see them.

I do NOT mean to imply that you have what my daughter has. Only that you are looking at the world with a very slanted view. The cause of that slant is probably very different than what caused my daughter's.

[CarolAnn]

I'm glad to see that the posts on this thread have become more thoughtful and less judgmental - we really shouldn't judge someone we don't know - because this forum is just a tiny, smudged window into their world. We've descended into name calling before, and it got ugly, with members who quit and others who had to be ejected. So first of all, this is a plea for more courtesy on this board and all of the others.

With that out of the way, I think we go through changes in our need for other people - I know I do. Sometimes I have gone for weeks or months in a very contented, solitary life. Then I need to be with people as much as possible for a while. Luckily, I have close friends who are the same way: when we get together, we have a fine time, but then we can go for long periods with no contact at all and that's ok too.

I wonder how many people, especially among the newest members, have thought of moving to the "backwoods" for reasons of necessity rather than desire. When town or city living just doesn't seem safe any longer, or the economy looks so grim that it looks like time to go find somewhere better. When you can't rely on your job being there - it may be time to start looking for an alternative.

The idea of living in the country, growing your own food and providing your own shelter is beguling. Stepping away from all the goodies promised by city life is a lot easier if you can't afford them anyway!

It is interesting to me that when the economy is booming, there are less people looking to leave it. When it starts to crumble, some will examine their priorities and start looking for a way to be secure. Others will hang on until the last gasp - and have no idea there was ever some other alternative.

The difference may be running toward something or running away from something else. In either case, one key to finding a mate for a successful run might be to find someone who is running the same direction for the same reason!

[EarthMother]

Sethwyo,
God loves you and always will. Find a group of people similar to yourself and vent there. This forum is about helping each other but none of us that I know of have the training to help you sort your problems.

Mostly we talk about farming and survival if life goes far down. Pray Honey and ask God to help you. I doubt that we can.

[seekeroftruth]

I'll agree to that earthmother, 100%.

seek

[MooseToo]

I'll agree to that earthmother, 100%.

seek

yup -

[sethwyo]

We're all nuts Seth, men & women.
I've had five wives and two of them we're mine! Last two were internet romances that led to intros, affairs, and finally a marriage thats currently in its tenth year. Glad I lived thru that mid-life crisis!

Lifes a hoot boy, enjoy it. Stay single a bit more. Meet some folks who haven't been driven crazy by the wind, and cabin fever. I wouldn't advertise for a "mate", gals don't usually like to be thought of as brood mares, freshened heifers, nor bitches in heat.

If your looking for a devoted female friend try the WV coalmine towns. Those gals have nothing, and would appreciate a bus ticket outta there! The same is true for most of KS that I've seen.

If you find one who seems right and starts acting squirrely, show her the movie "A Boy and His Dog".

Lex
If you didnt go out and hang yourself after reading the post here, I was wondering if you could help me with something. *Could you define 'squirrely' That could mean a lot of things, *What kind of squirrely?.
Also which *" A BOY AND HIS DOG" movie did you mean?
I found two, *I figure you must have ment the 1946 one with harry davenport, *Since you recomended it should be watched with a ladie friend. I dont know much about
that one, no info. * The other one was awarded the HUGO for best sci fi film, and stared john donson. I am wondering if 'SOME' of the people who read this post went and saw that one, and got excited about quotes like *"stupid brod, how am i going to nail her in there?"
And not being very smart, thought that thay could accusse me of being a woman hater, and make up whatever thay wanted, Baised on their own personal problems. * *

[EarthMother]

Why don't we all go to another site and talk about more useful topics than what sethwyo wants to talk about. I'm sorry Seth, but man, I have my own Poor Pitiful Pearl stories. I can see that you need someone to listen to you, however I am bi-polar myself and I'm trying to keep my nasty side from screaming. God bless you young man.

[WileyCoyote]

I wonder how many people, especially among the newest members, have thought of moving to the "backwoods" for reasons of necessity rather than desire. When town or city living just doesn't seem safe any longer, or the economy looks so grim that it looks like time to go find somewhere better. When you can't rely on your job being there - it may be time to start looking for an alternative.

The idea of living in the country, growing your own food and providing your own shelter is beguling. Stepping away from all the goodies promised by city life is a lot easier if you can't afford them anyway!

It is interesting to me that when the economy is booming, there are less people looking to leave it. When it starts to crumble, some will examine their priorities and start looking for a way to be secure. Others will hang on until the last gasp - and have no idea there was ever some other alternative.

The difference may be running toward something or running away from something else. In either case, one *key to finding a mate for a successful run might be to find someone who is running the same direction for the same reason!

I've suggested that before, too, CarolAnn - this forum's(and many others) newer posters are starting to remind me of the six months prior to Y2K - when people who were suddenly frightened of what could happen were looking everywhere for ways to protect themselves and to survive what they saw as a coming catastrophe. Many never had considered survival before, many had never owned a gun, never stocked a larder, never cooked for themselves. There were a lot of panicked responses to their fear; some reasonable and achievable, most more frightening than the predicted catastrophe!

Something I've learned in my years of training in Emergency Preparedness - many people who have disasters happen to or around them simply do not know how to respond, and often are an unwitting danger to themselves and others. People trying to hack apart trees downed in a hurricane, not thinking about the power lines caught up in those limbs, for example... or the fella in the ice storm who lit up his charcoal-burning grill in his enclosed garage and not only died of the smoke, but burnt his house down around him and his family.

A rational approach, a thinking approach, and an unemotional approach will get most people thru things. This holds true with companionship, too - overemotionalizing, overanalyzing, or a feeling of desperation or hopelessness are all self-defeating. Setting goals and determining strategies to meet those goals, as well as learning about oneself and changing to meet the requirements of not only survival but of life's changes, is the only way to accomplish what and where we need to be.

As I've said before, we will see a lot more of different types of folk coming onto this forum now; not all will have the training or the immediate life skills that they need to accomplish what they need right away. But none of us were born with that training or those skills, and not all - not even most! - of the people in this country were blessed with parents who educated them to survive. While fear of the future is a great motivator, it can't be the only one for real survival. One must continually take stock of who and where one is in life, physically, mentally, emotionally; and decide what needs to change to improve - and then do it. Some will learn quickly, some slowly, most - never. Sad but true; Darwin will out...

[sethwyo]

I wonder who this 'seth' is that some people keep refering to?
I think there are two kinds of people in the world, From reading the responses from this post, I think there are people who lie and people who tell the truth, And nothing inbetween. *Sure everyone has their DARK SIDE, *But some people Are so twisted that thay cannot see a need to examine themselves, to see what their own problems are.
OK, so i am concerned about being hurt, Like a number of people who ended up in bad relationships wore, *At least i know what i am, some people canot even see that about themselves or me. Thay dont even know what thay are. I did some reading this evening and found some interesting (to me) things. *It reminded me of the atitude displayed in some of the replies, *In the bible it is stated that *some people become so untruthfull, that GOD totally abandons them and puts an influence on them so that thay will believe *that what is right is really wrong and that what is wrong is really right. *I think of the person that came on and
In a faults and outlandish attack on me claimed that i was stalking and harrasing women, And even children, amoung other lies. * I didnt understand what was going on at first, Whose post did thay read??? i saw other replies claiming things i NEVER wrote. *Then i realized what was happening, *I saw one member post an 'on topic replie', then began abuse, After seeing others attack me, I recieved critisim about my spilling ov wrds, while other members misspelt and no one said anything to them. *I saw a member who had made a post about someone trespassing and breaking into their home, And discussing how thay felt, but attacking me on my post about something rather simular. * The people who created this site had the forsight to add the 'ignore' feature. So i cant see what thay write anymore. *I wondered about the people who created this site, *what would thay write, or think. * *"But while I was sitting there contemplating the *behaviour of this little high school sweetheart, which to me seemed a bit extreem, my ever observant spouse told me a few of the things she had been ablr to make outon those prettily snarling lips. I assured her that my mother was not a female dog, and that indeed my parents had been married when i was born.Now wading in at 200 pounds it had never occured to me that I might find myself afraid of a petite 16 yr old girl half my size, if that, but suddenly i saw the headlines in tomorrows's paper:
modern day mountain man slain by brutal toung lashing. I wusnt getting out of that truck untill that big bully had gone inside" *QUOTE from an article in the BWHM. *I wonder if the BWHM was sent mail informing them that thay wore women haters When thay published that article? *Wore thay accused the way i had been, for writing something simular?
" It might seem that from reading the letters written to BWHM that living the good life in the backwoods is not he best way to either keep a mate or find a mate. *Complaint os spouses who have been unwilling to make the transition to less than comfortable facilities are common, as are complaints of the inability of individuals to find a partner willing to settle into a back to basics lifestyle" QUOTE from BWHM article. *This was also familure to me, And i wondered, Did *the writer of that article hafto clear it with their probation officer before having it published?
Even an article about a person getting into legal trouble and prison time, not for doing anything wrong, but alowed the wrong type of person in to their rural home, The author warned of letting potentual trouble makers into your life.
I thought of people who flat out lied about me and what i wrote, *As i read *(quote) *" there are others who know the difference perfectly well, but for reasons of personal agenda will attempt to distort the truth" QUOTE from BWHM. *
Some claimed that 'WE' only talk about farm things, or something, *This isnt 'farm journal' This is BWHM, * 'I' can talk about things other than picklin pears- cannin corn- and *twadlin turnips. * And other members post about other things, *And things of the same nature i posted of. *I cant say i am being picked on or singled out however, that would make me a whiner.
Posting a issue for discussion about personal, Intimate rather, relationships, ( I did not post a sob story) *Dont mean I am trying to claim to be a victim of any one.
Why all the hate, and instigation of abuse?
QUOTE " . . . inaccurate and rather stupid expose of me.
There have been several treatments of the subject. All aim at sensationalism butt miss at accuracy.
This dosent matter however since accuracy is not the goal. the idea is to present a sensational subject to raise ratings and attract advertisers" end QUOTE.
And what could cause more SINsationalisim than *talk show like garbage of, 'Men VS Women', 'Woman hater', 'Child abuser'. *
The people who lied here are proubly thought of as nice, good, honest, people. *I wonder if anyone else has seen what thay are really made of inside. I doubt it, as long as thay arnt lied about and insulted themselves. *
It was however worth it, I have enjoyed the other post here, almost all from ladies, Thats interesting. I got less than i hoped for, but more than i expected.
By the way, i do have a few gal pals in the community that that i enjoy the company of. :)