Just Wondering

[nancy1340]

Just Wondering!



Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?

Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal government hasn’t solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and trailers) are?

Why isn’t the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels in Chicago ?

When will Spike Lee say the Federal Government blew up the levees that failed in Des Moines ?

Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?

Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen television sets?

When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a “vanilla” Iowa , because that’s the way God wants it?

Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage! Complete with reports of cannibalism?

Where are the people declaring George Bush hates white, rural people?

How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever again?

[Quietgentleman]

Nancy

Don't be asking them celebs anything on our behalf. We are just to busy right at the moment to give them any attention and we don't want to send them home with a complex. As far as FEMA is concerned they are here but like all buracrats their just getting in the way and making life harder than it needs to be. But we'll survive and come out ok if left to our own hard work and sense of community.

QGM

[FZRaven]

It probably has something to do with the fact they are getting help. Fema did screw up big time in New Orleans, they still have supply's sitting in warehouses rotting.

Also we take into account that a lot of the people in New Orleans are very poor, They just didn't have the resourses to deal with that big of a disaster. I'm not saying all the people in Iowa are rich by any means, but I bet most of them are in a better position to deal with this than the people in New Orleans.

And I don't know what channel you are watching but I've seen enough coverage of this to last me a life time. I don't read papers so I can't say anything on that.

[seekeroftruth]

Since when is it the goverments job to "help" anyone. It flies in the face of our constitution and takes freedoms and liberties from hard working people. Not to mention our hard earned and hard to come by cash.

Government welfare in ALL forms is degrading to individual and community life. As well as creates what we have here.. a failure to communicate.. (sorry had to do it.. ) A whole generation of people that feel they "deserve" handouts. Its time for people to get off their lazy asses and get a job get an education and prepare their own families for emergencies. Maybe if they did that I wouldnt have to be shelling out my hard earned cash for a 300 Billion dollar government handout to idiots that wanted the american dream without working for it. Im talking about the bill to bail out Homeowners who are having their homes, that they couldnt afford to buy except for lenders who knew they couldnt afford it and set them up with loans that they knew they could never repay, and in turn we had to bail them out as well, forclosed on.

If I could keep all that government handout money in my own pocket then maybe I could afford to donate more to PRIVATE disaster relief efforts that would actually make a differences. And help out people that were TRULY in need.

Oh and maybe, I dont know, quit living on flood plains? When will we learn that we cant even predict weather much less control it???

seek

[walls0stone]

I think that the point is the real people who are discrimiated agenst is the working class farmer with a stand alone mind set. I could be speciffic, but I'd risk ticking off some people I'm not talking about. I have enough people who hate me in the real world...

Now in a major problem, SOME gov help is not a bad idea..I mean, National Gaurd help with medical or rescue. but if a man don't work, don't let him eat. many people on hand outs are not looking for work of any kind.

Those are the people who should be sent out to pick apples and think of the gas we'd save if every overweaght lard butt got an idot stick (cuts weeds) and did the Cool Hand Luke beside the highway..

[walls0stone]

many Small sand bags hold back better than one big thing...
sadly I don't think we should tell people were they can and can not live...since most of the time it's safe.

[hardrock]

[quote] Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods? [quote]

From what I saw on this morning's newscast, they are evidently all tied up at the moment........
Something about "bailing out" Hillary's $22M campaign deficit. ??? ;D

I think the fundamental difference in the reaction to the two disasters is that the folks of NOLA, overall, just expected the PTB to come save them, and the typical Iowan just grabbed a shovel and went to work.......

In all fairness though, the midwest witnessed Katrina's aftermath unfold along with the rest of the nation, and more than likely, learned what NOT to do when it was their turn at bat.

[Drawbar]

Since when is it the goverments job to "help" anyone.

I agree with everything you said. Thanks for saying it.

[Quietgentleman]

Oh and maybe, I dont know, quit living on flood plains? *When will we learn that we cant even predict weather much less control it???

seek


How do you determine where a flood plain is and you have built high enough. The majority of houses that were flooded were built in the early yrs of Cedar Rapids. They have never seen flood waters sense they were built over a hundred yrs ago. The majority of the house lost weren't even eligible for flood insurance. Some home owners are coming forward with this story that they looked into flood insurance and was told they weren't in a flood plain so they couldn't get it. The Cedar River in Cedar Rapids flood stage is 14 feet thats how far it has to raise before it starts flooding. The river crested at 32 feet that 18 foot above flood stage. This is 12 feet above the record set in 1929. But I guess all them that weren't smart enough to see into the future and see that the river was gonna go 18 foot above flood stage just deserves what they got.

QGM

[Fred_47460]

I can't speak to the flooding in MO. The big problem we had in Indiana was the massive amount of rain in such a short period. 10 inches in 12 hours.....15 inches in 24 hours!!! Usually, in a big storm with a major downpour it'll POUR for 15 minutes...maybe 30 minutes. It rained bucketsfor12 HOURS!! Places flooded that NEVER flood. Little creeks that are maybe 12 INCHES deep became raging rivers 12 FEET deep. The dry ditch in front of your house becomes a raging whitewater rapids that washes your driveway away. The drain systems in your town can't keep up and houses flood out that are MILES away from the closest "flood plain". It is hard to understand unless you've seen it.

Fred

[Katrina-Sisu]

No one really cares about the floods. Since it hit the Midwest (I grew up there) many people probably think the farmers can recover and handle it themselves (ie. self-sufficent).

Everyone will be throwing a whinefest when corn skyrockets even more as well as dairy. The Midwest is America's Breadbasket.

Kat

[MNMOM]

I so agree, Katrina.

But, one thing I know, everyone is pitching in and doing whatever it takes to get thing's done. That's one thing that we did not see down in New Orleans. We did not see people and policewomen looting stores, we did not see people carrying big screen tv's in waist high waters. What I did see was teen-ager's bagging sandbags right along with the adult's. Everyone was helping each other.

[walls0stone]

So what about the other states that were hit same time as New Orleans? Didn't Miss and AL take care of them selves?

It's all about the vote, who can I get to vote for me...oh look Big city in trouble.

It makes me think that if bad stuff should happen, the majority of folks in the cities couldn't find the boone-docks with a GPS!

[gsb]

No ones mentioned this, New Orleans is surrounded by a lake and is below sea level!!!

[Dobelo17]

Hi all,

My husband and I were talking about the storms just
today and even last year when southern WI flooded.
On the Tv you saw all the flooding and people out in boats picking the neighbors up of the roofs of their houses. I think the differance is that poeple in more
rural areas are more independent and self reliant.
My husband said that if the floods hit down town
milwakee WI it would have been more like the Katrina
aftermath. THey are more of the mind set that someone is going to come and save me not lets get moving and help ourselves. Although I think it depends
alot on the individuals. WHen the tornado came through Ladysmith and destroyed half the town. You had people from all over coming into cut up trees, help
clean up debree and working togeather. Then you had the ones who complained about everything and how inconvienced they were with the mess in town, the air conditining didn't work, blah, blah, blah. They lost nothing and got to leave town to go home every night
to their home and they were still moaning and groaning.
Just my thoughts.

Becky

[MooseToo]

No ones mentioned this, New Orleans is surrounded by a lake and is below sea level!!!

does that qualify as a "flood plain" or is it simply just a very stupid place to locate a city ?

[CatherineID]

About the flooding in the midwest ... I have yet to read about police officers abandoning their jobs and leaving the cities in droves. I also have yet to read about the national guard being ordered to do house-to-house searches to disarm the remaining citizens.

[gsb]

Moosetoo, Personally I think it's a dumb place to locate a city. I think the whole city is a flood plane!!!!!!!!

[walls0stone]

I thought the city was first built by the French who sent all the prison population to that place to eather live, die or just get out of the jail system.

I don't think it's a bad thing to live in a flood plane..I think this sort of thing will happen, no matter what.. what I do not like is to expect that every time you have an issue you will get uncle sam to bail you out...LA has Earth Quakes right? The Mid West was said to a place for no man when a snow storm almost killed many children in a single day. So how is water any diffrant?

God Helps Those Who Help Themselves.

[bookwormom]

the squeaky wheel gets the grease