Y2K REVISITED

[alma]

Going through some old y2k stuff and realize how complacent we all seem to have become, so thought i'd try to get us all to consider again some of the things that would help us to survive a cyber attack when computers would be gone, and all that this would entail.

I've been thinking about distilling water, for one thing, and, and simple heating with sawdust candles, etc. and a few other things. Is anyone interested?

Does anyone have some good ideas they could add? love, alma

[alma]

Well, maybe i could start.

I was talkikng to an old friend today about the possible cyber terrorism that we have been hearing on t.v. and thinking about honing up our skills from y2k.

We made sawdust candles in coffee cans then. I made some but never have hda to use them. Supposedly, they give off a little heat and light for several hours.

Another one is to put about 4 cotton balls in a cat food can and pour over some alcohol just to cover and it burns or 10-15 minutes real hot, long enough to heat some water for tea or cereal, or whatever.

You can put a roll of toilet paper in a coffee can and cover siglty with alcohol and it burns HOT for a long time. Do it outdoors first so you wont burn your house down. Even with cat ood can, use a fireproof base to put it on.

To distil water, put water in a large pan with a smaller pan inside, or tin cup, or something.

Set a large funnel (with a dowel or someting into the stem part) and fit it tight on the outside pan so water will boil, and rise up to funnel, condense, and then drop down into the cup.

You can dig a pit outside and put a pan in the center, holding it down with a stone inside if necessary, and cover lightly with a sheet of plastic, held down with stones around it. Then set a pebble into the center of the plastic, just enough to make it dip down a little, and water will heat up from the sun, and rise, and het the plastic and drop into the pan in center.

I think the pit should be lined in black plastic to hold the dirty water surrounding the empty pan in the center, or wet shrubbery. The black plastic will make it heat faster, too. I think!

Collect rain water, melt snow. I even think the astronets used urine once, maybe. love, alma

[Katrina-Sisu]

Alma you have excellent ideas! You should write a book!

I've never heard of a sawdust candle before (I live under a rock lol). How is it made?

We'd need a way to preserve meat in a Y2K situation. If you couldn't can the meat, smoking or salt preserving would be the best thing.

I really need to read up on how to do both of these.

Kat

[alma]

Don't have the computer long tonight.
Another thing i've been thinking of is to store dry stuff in plastic pepsi bottles, and squeeze them a little to let the air out before putting the cap on to make it like a vacume.
I used to put them in 5 gallon tin cans that xmas candy came in avout every 6 months, and put outdoors to freeze, or in refrigerator freezer before packing, to destroy any possible vermin. --just a few days as i recall..
I'll have to get out my y2k floppy disks to check some more things out.
I never did learn how to store meat, i don't think, but learned how to use tvp, textured vegetable protein, and to use certain combinations to get the complete protein like brown rice and lentils, etc.
Maybe someone can give us a run down on how to make jerky etc. . love, alma

[Shadow]

Hey Alma, I was here back in the Y2K time, and we really got into it . Still have one more 55 gal barrel of toilet tissue. We still can most of our food, about 600 jars this year. We can chicken, venison, takes time but works good, we use the chicken in vegetable soup and its great on cold days. After all the preparation and work and money we have relaxed our guard and realized that with the medication I am on if something big goes down as soon as I run out of medication I run out of time. Kinda discourages being survival minded. We still have the farm, and our security systems, but just too old to work that hard. If you have questions we can help with ask. Can your meat using a pressure caner. David