Quick question/Help needed

[Bad_Omen]

Hi guys,

I really need some help with a couple of questions I have regarding Law Enforcement and Diving.

So if there are any cops out there who could spare a couple of Min's, please drop me a PM.

Many thanks in advance.
Damion

[wax]

Bad- questions I have regarding Law Enforcement and Diving.

Wax- Why PM?
I know more than my fair share about the law and how it works, what is the question?

BTW: A specific act like diving must be addressed by locality.
Diving in the waters off Florida is much different than diving in a lake in Minnesota.

[Bad_Omen]

Bad- questions I have regarding Law Enforcement and Diving.

Wax- Why PM?
I know more than my fair share about the law and how it works, what is the question?

BTW: A specific act like diving must be addressed by locality.
Diving in the waters off Florida is much different than diving in a lake in Minnesota.


Thanks for the reply Wax.

I suggested PM in case anyone didn't want the fact that they're in LE advertised. Some people can be very touchy about PERSEC.

Basically I'm trying to find out how police Dept's in the states go about training their Public Safety/Emergency Response Divers. Whether it's done internally or by an outside agency and if so which ones, that kind of thing.

Being based in Europe it's a little difficult to pop into my local station and find out about how it's done in the US.

I've been offered the chance to train as a PSD instructor but would like to find out more about the worldwide market and how well the accreditation travels before spending 5 grand on a course. I know this kinda thing is outside the usual remit of the forum, but I also figured there's gotta be a few LEO's or people with close ties in here.

[Txanne]

Thanks for the reply Wax.

I suggested PM in case anyone didn't want the fact that they're in LE advertised. Some people can be very touchy about PERSEC.

Basically I'm trying to find out how police Dept's in the states go about training their Public Safety/Emergency Response Divers. Whether it's done internally or by an outside agency and if so which ones, that kind of thing.

Being based in Europe it's a little difficult to pop into my local station and find out about how it's done in the US.

I've been offered the chance to train as a PSD instructor but would like to find out more about the worldwide market and how well the accreditation travels before spending 5 grand on a course. I know this kinda thing is outside the usual remit of the forum, but I also figured there's gotta be a few LEO's or people with close ties in here.




Indeed!! ;)

But this is a very interesting subject.

Txanne

[WileyCoyote]

Would a Firefighter's perspective help?
The response won't help much but here goes - different areas handle things differently. In the US, people who live around oceans and rivers usually have a contingent of people who like to dive and who get certified in diving independent of any employ or organization.

Emergency Divers usually ascertain their cert on their own and offer that service to their local departments. Sometimes they are employed as police officers or firefighters, but sometimes it is "We need a diver. call dispatch and see who we've got" or "Call the Marine Rescue Squadron" or "Call the (insert military) base and see if they've got divers" or even "I know a guy! Let me call..."
Rarely are such training programs an integral part of any rescue organization unless there is grant money available. To purchase and maintain a boat, all of the equipment, and the divers' certifications for a use that is infrequent at best is not cost effective. I say this having lived on the coast and around rivers most of my life and having been involved with police and fire departments for 27 years.
Hope that helps.

[Deberosa]

Maybe sending a question to this institute would help:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/302568_divers06.html?source=mypi

They probably would know if they do training for LEOs or how that is done.

I am not familiar with how it's done around here though.

[Bad_Omen]

Thanks for the link Debs, A very interesting read.

Funnily enough they are on my list of schools to do a commercial dive course with. I can get the same level of qualification in less time for half the money back in South Africa but Seattle is still in the running because of the quality of their course.

Thanks again.

[Deberosa]

Thanks for the link Debs, A very interesting read.

Funnily enough they are on my list of schools to do a commercial dive course with. I can get the same level of qualification in less time for half the money back in South Africa but Seattle is still in the running because of the quality of their course.

Thanks again.
Well if you get out this way you will need to come and visit!

[Bad_Omen]

Would a Firefighter's perspective help?
The response won't help much but here goes - different areas handle things differently. In the US, people who live around oceans and rivers usually have a contingent of people who like to dive and who get certified in diving independent of any employ or organization.

Emergency Divers usually ascertain their cert on their own and offer that service to their local departments. Sometimes they are employed as police officers or firefighters, but sometimes it is "We need a diver. call dispatch and see who we've got" or "Call the Marine Rescue Squadron" or "Call the (insert military) base and see if they've got divers" or even "I know a guy! Let me call..." *
Rarely are such training programs an integral part of any rescue organization unless there is grant money available. To purchase and maintain a boat, all of the equipment, and the divers' certifications for a use that is infrequent at best is not cost effective. I say this having lived on the coast and around rivers most of my life and having been involved with police and fire departments for 27 years.
Hope that helps.

Very helpful indeed Wiley, thanks for the insight. Sorry for not replying sooner, I wasn't trying to be rude. As I hit reply the website went all pear shaped.

Debs, if I do the course in the states I will definitely take you up on that and come say hi.

Thanks again for the reply's.

Take care.

[WileyCoyote]

That's ok - I tried to get back on after and I kept getting a blank page. Good luck...