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chloe3388
11-04-2006, 03:46 AM
Do you think this is a possibility?

VERY INTERESTING - (Dem's scheme to rob you more...)
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Democrats will tell you that they only want to raise taxes on the so-called "rich." Nancy Pelosi will probably come up with some figure in the $200,000 or $250,000 range to describe "rich" when she and her Democrat pals start to work on their tax increase plans. But here's a warning. If you happen to fall below that "rich" category, you're in their crosshairs as well. They have various schemes in the works to put you smack in the middle of the "rich" category, and thus set you up for some pretty substantial tax increases.

One such scheme targets homeowners. It's called "imputed income," and its a brilliant and devious idea on how to tax your home ownership.

Here's how it works.

Let's say that you've owned your home for about 20 years. For 20 years your home has been appreciating in value ... big time. Your monthly payments on that home are about $550 a month. Remember, it's a 20-year-old loan made when the cost of your home was much, much less. There isn't much of a home mortgage tax deduction left at this point since you almost have the home paid off, and the bulk of your payments go to principal instead of interest.

The very fact that you're living in such a nice home, and paying so little, attracts the interest of Democrats. They know that there are a lot of people in your neighborhood that paid a lot more for their homes than you did, and their mortgage payments are a lot higher. Not only that, but there are other people renting homes in your neighborhood and they're paying much more than you are every month. It's obvious that you're enjoying some great economic benefit due to the fact that you've owned your home for so long and your payments are so low. Well, where there's an economic benefit, there must be a tax!

Enter the concept of imputed income!

Under this wonderful plan, first floated by Clinton Democrats before the voter revolution of 1994, the government would figure out how much your home would rent for every month. To do this they would use all of that census data they've gathered, plus any information that they can develop on current sale and rental prices up and down your street.

Let's say that the government --- the IRS, if you will --- determines that your home would rent for $3,250 a month. That would add up to $39,000 a year. But the IRS discovers that you're only paying $550 a month, or $6,600 a year in rent. Well, there's that economic benefit you're enjoying by virtue of your long-term home ownership. The economic benefit of your home ownership is the difference between the $39,000 you should be paying to live there, and the $6,600 you're actually paying. Do the math. You're getting away with $32,400 every year in non-taxed economic benefits!

The Democrat plan is simple. Just take that $32,400 and add it to your taxable income on your next tax return. Then you get the privilege of paying income taxes to the federal government on the economic benefit you derive from your long-term home ownership. The IRS has "evened the playing field" in your neighborhood ... so to speak. Your neighbors had to pay taxes on the full $39,000 they're paying to live down the street ... now you're having to do the same. After all ... it's only fair, right!

Just remember this. Democrats actually believe that the best use for every single penny you earn is for it to be spent by government for what they love to call the "common good." They will grudgingly allow you to keep enough of your earnings to avoid your participation in a full-scale tax revolt. A good Democrat knows that only Democrats and the government know what is good for you, and that you will be so much better off and your life oh so much better if you will just succumb to the power of government and it's ability to care for you much better than you can care for yourself.

MNMOM
11-04-2006, 04:31 AM
I think this is a real possibility, all for the "common good", they keep finding more ways to drain us of our money. I have a real fear if the democrats get in, not that I trust the republicans either, too much has happened in the last six years. This is one more way to control us, and on and on it goes.

chloe3388
11-04-2006, 04:41 AM
When I read it I was thinking what better way for the gov to control people. No owner ship of private property, everyone in gov housing... All the sheep in a pen so to speak..

chloe

oldnndway
11-04-2006, 08:17 AM
That's what the dems want Chloe ... everyone lined up, at the same socio-economic level (except, of course, for the elitist) and dancing to their one world government tune.

I don't want the US to be like western Europe...and I'll fight for it not to be.
We have a great country and a great form of government and we have to stand against all those that despise our freedom (even those within our borders)

jim
11-04-2006, 02:10 PM
The thieving hounds will never stop.

jim

Steve90
11-04-2006, 02:51 PM
I don't want the US to be like western Europe...and I'll fight for it not to be.

Try that idea over here and we will be out on the streets. >:(

billy_goat_gruff
11-05-2006, 08:19 AM
It doesn't matter, if you want to go there...

The basis of imputed income is an acknowledgment that there is no private ownership of property. This was done to american folks when they allowed property taxes to be first levied.

The other method that is fast approaching is the Alternative Minimum Tax. It's basis appears to be that everyone is allotted so many resources then the rest is either taken for the common good or taxed (same thing?) or...

AMT should kick in hard in the next couple of years. Currently, it looks like those wanting a flat income tax will get it as AMT pretty much wipes out deductions (including the standard one) and is 26%. You do get a number below which the old style tax system is to be used, and AMT is added on top of that if you exceed the magic number.

When combined with imputed income (it is already out there but maybe not implemented yet - don't know), well, ...

The sheep analogy, imo, is incorrect. Try a dog analogy, and anyone with ANY wolf genes will be removed for the common good...

PS & BTW... Yeah, I love conspiracy theories. That doesn't mean I believe them so take the above with a grain of salt. The above is a projection based on a couple of those conspiracy theories I'm aware of...

Good luck. There are many competing schemes out there and the Democrats are just one group, as are the Republicans. Some of the other groups are VERY scary, to me at least.

scottie12
11-05-2006, 01:44 PM
Dont the constituents of the (evil) democrats
constitute the majority of the ppl who would be negatively affected by this ?
Dont we already have, thanks to our conservative supreme court , a ruling, stating that' property that can be proved to be a more profitable asset and resource for the state than it is presently being used for can be confiscated by the state or a business '? (Emmanent Domain)-(slumlords are businesses!)
This clearly means that already ( under the watchful eye of a repub. white house -repub house-repub senate -conservative supreme court) that if it is deemed that your home could provide more taxes for the state if you were to surrender it that they can already confiscate it if they want to.
So, RIGHT NOW, ALREADY, according to our conservative supreme court , without a bad word or a whimper from any of the conservative powers that be if a housing mogul decides to sue certain ppls of a town , with a mathematically credible stand that his ownership of your property will afford more taxes to the state the state must force you to sell to him (Its the law NOW).(welcome to conservative capitalist Fascism)
well thats just a few of my thoughts on the matter -please feel free to ignore what I wrote and just call me names now .
But please dont call me a democrat !Please no! not that!
Oh, and i dont care for what passes for a democrat these days myself, but this is just another example republicans hating dems for what the repubs do even worse.
And It reminds of another thing that boggles my mind , like how repubs fear the dems taking their guns , while bush has made it law that if a
spouse calls in a "VERBAL" -VERBAL-YEA A VERBAL domestic vilolence claim against the hubby , and vice versa I'm sure , that the verbal agressor loses his/her right to own a weapon ! so repubs+ property rights =NO!
Repubs +gun-rights=NO!
Repubs+GAy=Yes they seem to be all gay lately
Repubs +religious =(only till they get caught)
Repubs+the patriot act = freedom?
It seems obvious that there is a better formula to understand republicanism , hmmm!Lets see!
insecurity+war+Closetedness+hippocracy+militance=r epublicanism!
You ppl freak me out !

oldnndway
11-05-2006, 02:31 PM
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billy_goat_gruff
11-05-2006, 06:04 PM
What do the Republicans want to turn this country into, old?

FWIW, I tend to agree with you about Dems and Western Europe...
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Scottie, depends on where as the labels change sometimes. Many, maybe most, homeowners don't qualify for the Earned Income Credit (is that the one?) that allows a refund on zero taxes paid...

oldnndway
11-05-2006, 06:24 PM
"What do the Republicans want to turn this country into, old? "

Far as I can tell they don't want to change it from what it has been .

billy_goat_gruff
11-05-2006, 07:38 PM
You know, old, I thought G.W. had signed the North American Union thing, but, it is just a bunch of talking points at present. No signatures.

Not sure how to respond now that I've gotten myself into this. Reckon you are right, much of what I don't like was set up long ago. Not all of it was set up by Republicans either...

The imputed rent is a UN accounting trick proposed 30 or so years ago, best I can tell.

Good answer, made me think a minute or two... Thanks.