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Tightwad
09-29-2006, 11:12 AM
Came across this point of view by a long respected
author who has a sobering view on the state of the
world today. I don't know if he's right or not but I
do know that what he speaks of is true.

Please.....Read it and comment as you see fit as it
is something to think about for us all.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11123162/kurt_vonnegut_says_this_is_the_end_of_the_world

bgarrett
09-29-2006, 11:50 AM
The thing is, He is WRONG. And even if we did run out of oil, we have synthetics waiting in the wings

Tightwad
09-30-2006, 03:42 AM
The thing is, He is WRONG. And even if we did run out of oil, we have synthetics waiting in the wings

We do?? Did you know that synthetics are MADE FROM petroleum or
coal?? The term "Synthetic" only means that chemistry has changed
the molecules from a natural state to a man made altered form.

I'm not picking at you mate 'cause way to many folk's simply forget
all the things or products "made from" fossil fuels.

pinetreefarm
09-30-2006, 10:16 AM
I think it was true Vonnegut. Need I say more. *

Pine Tree

spelling.........grrrrrrr

bookwormom
09-30-2006, 01:07 PM
well, isn't that what is called TSHTF?

oldnndway
09-30-2006, 03:22 PM
" "There is nothing they can do," he bleakly answered. "It's over, my friend. The game is lost." "

Of course it is </s>

More *" the sky is falling" *kool-aid for the masses to get all upset over.

I think a lot of folks like this see their lives winding down and want so bad for the world to roll up too.

The graveyard is full of folks that thought the world couldn't go on without them.

Things keep going.

If/when the oil runs out there will be someone with something to take it's place and make a buck off it in the process.

Personally I don't think we've scratched the surface on world oil supplies.
They keep finding more and more of it....albeit some of it is hard to get and expensive, a shortage will only make it more worthwhile to get.

bgarrett
10-01-2006, 07:32 AM
Maybe synthetics is not the correct word. *What word would be more appropriate for biodiesel fuel *made from soybeans?
*More than 100 years ago, someone gloomily announced, "When whale oil is gone, the world will be plunged into darkness." * *
*Human ingenuity and technological innovation are the twin and intertwined solutions to scarcity and shortages.
I remember the gloom and doomers saying we were gonna run out of oil---in 1965! *Hasnt happened yet. In fact, we have more oil available than ever before.
Have you heard of Eugene Island? * Eugene Island is an oil field in the gulf of Mexico, 80 miles off the coast of Louisiana. It was discovered in 1973 and began producing 15,000 barrels of oil a day which then slowed to about 4,000 barrels in 1989.

But then for no logical reason whatsoever, production spiked back up to 13,000 barrels a day. *What the researchers found when they analyzed the oil field with time lapse 3-D seismic imaging is that there was an unexplained deep fault in the bottom corner of the computer scan, which showed oil gushing in from a previously unknown deep source and migrating up through the rock to replenish the existing supply.

Furthermore, the analysis of the oil now being produced at Eugene Island shows that its age is geologically different from the oil produced there after the refinery first opened. Suggesting strongly that it is now emerging from a different, unexplained source.

The last estimates of probable reserves shot up from 60 million barrels to 400 million barrels.

Both the scientists and geologists from the big oil companies have seen the evidence and admitted that the Eugene Island oil field is refilling itself.

This completely contradicts peak oil theory and with technology improving at an accelerating pace it seems obvious that there are more Eugene Islands out there waiting to be discovered.

The existence of self-renewing oil fields shatters the peak oil myth. If oil is a naturally replenishing inorganic substance then how can it possibly run out?

Ignore the gloom and doom prophecies. * *We dont need people like that who discourage innovation.

Tightwad
10-01-2006, 10:04 AM
Maybe synthetics is not the correct word. *What word would be more appropriate for biodiesel fuel *made from soybeans?

The existence of self-renewing oil fields shatters the peak oil myth. If oil is a naturally replenishing inorganic substance then how can it possibly run out?

Ignore the gloom and doom prophecies. * *We dont need people like that who discourage innovation.


Fuels from "soybeans" & plant matter is BIO-fuels.

As to self refillling oil fields..... Ah NO! Not unless some kinda magic
exist somewhere.

Doom & gloom is what gets people off their collective a$$es to pay
attention to what's going on and to spur new ways to do anything.

It's like they say........
Ya can't get different results by always doing the same thing.

bgarrett
11-05-2006, 05:56 AM
Even if we ran out of oil from deep in the earth, there will ALWAYS be alternatives invented. Look at todays story

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/state/061104science.html