Total Collapse of The United States

[FZRaven]

This is just my rambling, don't take it to serious.

I think we need a complete collapse of the current government, I feel as if it's the only way to truly fix it. I see no way that we can ever fix the government as it is now. They control the laws and how things are changed, It's not like we can elect a whole new senate and house all at the same time.

I think the one real hope is a full out collapse of this country. Then we can rebuild the government, we have to document to lead us. We could finally get back to the constitution, and get rid of all these pricks that have no idea what it even stands for.

I'm all for a government that's actually fallowed the constitution, unlike the current government. It seem like most politicians these days are more likely to follow the money.

[Buck]

I'm all for a government that's actually fallowed the constitution, unlike the current government. It seem like most politicians these days are more likely to follow the money.



Sorry, but until a way is found around human wickedness and greed NO
gov't will ever be perfect enough to follow all the rules. It goes against
human nature.........

[earl3447]

I agree, and even tho we can't get rid of greed and just plain stupid people that have no idea what the constitution means. It would take at least 300 years to get back to this point. Maybe by 2200 we will have made some progress in getting along. A country that pays no attention to its history is like a man with no memory.

[FZRaven]

Sorry, but until a way is found around human wickedness and greed NO
gov't will ever be perfect enough to follow all the rules. It goes against
human nature.........

Oh of course we will never live to see the day that we have a perfect government.

But we sure could do a hell of a lot better then we are right now.

[grower]

You'll get no argument on that one from me.

[MooseToo]

i'm not all that sure anymore that this nation deserves to survive -

[Buck]

i'm not all that sure anymore that this nation deserves to survive -

What it the alternative to survivial?

Nothing pretty I'll bet.

[gwhilikerz]

The only thing we can do to put the country back on track is to take baby steps. Each of us has to commit to push for the ouster of our present reps that go to Washington. We can do that with the ballot. But it takes time and commitment. You can't say that your rep is great and we should keep him. They all must go and the stench cleaned from congress. TERM LIMITS!

[jebrown]

A complete collapse of the goventment in order to rebuild it. Remeber, you will have the same idiots rebuilding it that got us in this mess to begin with. If they weren't smart enough to prevent it why would they be smart enough to fix it with a rebuid?
What is really pathetic is that some who saw it coming choose to do nothing to prevent it.

[flatwater]

Although on one level I can agree with you FZRaven but I don't think a total collapse will help. Too many enemies would like to see that. What we need is get all the third party people to get together so they could pick one that would be excepted to most all (constitution Party) Then we need to work hard to prove to people that it's time for a REAL change to a third party. It could be done and would be a better transition but we need to act soon, before the next election.

[crafty2002]

Sorry, but until a way is found around human wickedness and greed NO
gov't will ever be perfect enough to follow all the rules. It goes against
human nature.........


Dang Buck, you done went and ruined my day. Here I was done decided that you were total bonkers and you went and proved me wrong.
The only thing that is even going to help the US is another revolution. And I don't see it uniting anywhere.
I have maybe 30-40 people that seems like we will work together for the good of us all to survive what lies ahead but that's as far as I can get it seems. Actually there is more but the rest will wait until the last minute when they know danged well we are their only hope.
Tell me. How many people can even say that?
It is going to have to get really bad before anyone acts and that is coming in the next couple of years I am afraid.
JMHO

[sethwyo]

It is the idea of 'WE need to take this country back ! '
That so many Patrots cry out.
But i ask Take it back from who?

Everything people have is given to them by the government.
Their water and food and medical care, Their cars and houses, They claim they have worked for it themselves, But it is only there because of their coopration with the government. Everything is regulated by the government.
People do not know how to do anything for themselves.

Right now they are crying about jobs, And what is the government going to do to give us jobs?
People could right now stop running after the government and begin doing things for themselves, Communities could start doing things for themselves and turn their backs on government. America should give government the silent treatment.
But it wont happen, One third of the people here are federal or state employes, =tax dollars. Another third is on some form of welfare, =tax dollars.
These people will fight to keep a government to stay dependent upon, They NEED someone to do everything for them, Give them a job so they can have things.
Things they could be making for themselves.

People want government because of their own insecurities.
The revolution will be a bunch of welfare and federal pukes who will have had ENOUGH of the government not doing its job. they will be sick of the government not providing for them and they will do something about it.

Some guy got his picture in the paper, He was bugging his eyes out and had his jaw set from under his USMC cap in an attempt to show his dissatisfaction with the government.
He said something about how people need to be puting more pressure on electid officals to do more for the communities. He, like like one million out of one million and two people, Dont have a clue, They can only think that the government should 'Do it for us'.

The people need to be eleminated so that a culture of sensible people can live here,
Hmmmmmm . . .
That sounds familure.

[Buck]

Dang Buck, you done went and ruined my day. Here I was done decided that you were total bonkers and you went and proved me wrong.
The only thing that is even going to help the US is another revolution. And I don't see it uniting anywhere.


I do have my more lucid moments. ;D

[fnfredux]

We have met the enemy and he is us...

[gwhilikerz]

It is the idea of * 'WE need to take this country back ! '
That so many *Patrots cry out.
But i ask *Take it back from who?

Everything people have is given to them by the government.
Their water and food and medical care, Their cars and houses, They claim they have worked for it themselves, But it is only there because of their coopration with the government. Everything is regulated by the government.
People do not know how to do anything for themselves.

Right now they are crying about jobs, And what is the government going to do to give us jobs?
People could right now stop running after the government and begin doing things for themselves, Communities could start doing things for themselves and turn their backs on government. *America should give government the silent treatment.
But it wont happen, One third of the people here are federal or state employes, =tax dollars. Another third is on some form of welfare, =tax dollars.
These people will fight to keep a government to stay dependent upon, They NEED someone to do everything for them, Give them a job so they can have things.
Things they could be making for themselves.

People want government because of their own insecurities.
The revolution will be a bunch of welfare and federal pukes who will have had ENOUGH of the government not doing its job. they will be sick of the government not providing for them and they will do something about it.

Some guy got his picture in the paper, He was bugging his eyes out and had his jaw set from under his *USMC cap in an attempt to show his dissatisfaction with the government.
He said something about how people need to be puting more pressure on electid officals to do more for the communities. He, like like one million out of one million and two people, Dont have a clue, They can only think that the government should 'Do it for us'.

The people need to be eleminated so that a culture of sensible people can live here, *
Hmmmmmm . *. *.
That sounds familure.

Some of you remind me of that old phrase "Don't just do something, Sit there!"

[rAcErRicK]

We have met the enemy and he is us...

That's the really sad part. We have many of them right here on BWH.

[Buck]

That's the really sad part. We have many of them right here on BWH.


Hmmmmm........looking in the mirror again are we? 8)

[maineyankee]

But don't look behind the curtain !

[rAcErRicK]

Hmmmmm........looking in the mirror again are we? *8)

What are you trying to say here buck ?

[crafty2002]

I do agree that for the most part, it is all a problem caused by the baby boomers. They want everything handed to them for nothing.
I owed a construction company one time and had 8 people working for me at the time. We tackled the dangest roof tear off I ever saw.
I bidded the job thinking it was a one layer tear off. The man that had built the house had put 3 roofs on it. He tore the first one back about 2 feet and the second one about 4 feet before he re roofed it, and it simply fooled the shit out of me when I looked at it. :'(
I fired the whole crew the first day because of crying. I told them all I was going to finishes this F'ing job if I had to do it myself.
The next day 4 came back, got their tools out of there cars and came up and went back to work without saying a word.
That's 4 MEN that I can depend on today if I need anything.
Some people just needs a hand up from time to time.
Then there is some people want's it in bed on a silver plater.
I ran a crew for Best Iron Workers and Johnny left me in charge and took a job in Fla.
Of course he took the best of the crew with him when he left and said "I'll get you some more help.
I haired and fired more people than I have fingers and toes before we got one 7 story stairwell welded up.
Johnny called me and said I am sending you two more men, don't fire them because they are the last ones on the list.
I fired them both before lunch time.
You know, I am starting to see a different picture here the more I think about it.
Between the evil and the lazy, there isn't a lot of us left that is worth a shit, is it???
I could go on and on about people that have worked under me, whether it was my company or I was running a job for someone else, but it is useless.
A different window just opened for me. It isn't just the gubbernuts. It's the lazy's too.
I will think about this one, and on top of that, I have Buck to thank for it. :o
God help us.
Dennis

[flatwater]

Crafty You said it's all the baby boomers fault because they want everything handed to them for nothing. I think you got your generations mixed up. What ages do you think the baby boomers represent?

[crafty2002]

It respresents mine for one. I did not say all of them.
But we are the generation that raised the brats running the streets now. I am part of that generation, but mine children grew up knowing what a belt was for. They know damned well there were two used for that contraption as I am sure yours did from what I have read of your post.
But we are the monority. Most kids today have kids that have kids while they were still kids.

[crafty2002]

Maybe I labeled that wrong Flatwater. Maybe I should have said the children of the baby boomers had every thing handed to them but it's still our fault.
I sisters used to raise hell at me because I was so strick with my children.
About 3 or 4 years ago at ThanksGiving at Debra's house she told me they were all wrong about the way I raised my children. Everyone else chimed in the same thoughts.
My oldest daughter married a contractor and they have two beutiful children, a 300+ thousand dollar home paid off. He is 31 now, I think.
My son owns his own plumbing buisiness and has 13 or 14 on the payroll now. I was too strick.
Debra has two step sons in jail. The other two won't hold a job.
That is what I was getting at.
It's the biggest part of the baby boomers fault. Not all, but mostly.

[Michael32170]

Perfect government? That implies that all 300 million of us, conform to the same exact thoughts and ideas.

[sethwyo]

It isnt the government.
It is the people here.
The government is only the result of the people.

I have lost a dozen jobs in 4 years, I must be doing something wrong , Right ?

The police and county attorny and judges and court clerks and everyone involved with the 'judisal system' all Hate me,
So i MUST HAVE done something wrong , Right ?

My family all dont like me, Members here on this form dont like, Gosh, I sure am a no good $$#!@*** .

Unless . . .

[crafty2002]

I got fired one time in my life. I was working for Brown & Root. Building unit 3 at Hyco Lake and the job was closing down and they weren't giving any lay off's out. Only company that I ever worked for that didn't give you the pink slips.
They would find a reason to fire you.
It was a cold rainy day and the lights went off in a duct I was welding in. There were probably 12- 15, maybe 20 of us in there.
Well, me being the cocky little dumb ass I was climbed out of a danged near pitch dark duct and searched the wire all the way to the ground. About 300 feet. Give or take 50-75 feet.
Nothing was wrong. Everyone else just set tight, scared to move in a duck where the bottom was a couple hundred feet below and all there was were 4" pipes stretched corner to corner.
But as I said, I was cockey. Stupid, yet cockey.
The lights turned back on as soon as I put my head back in the hole to see.
Maybe 30 minutes later they went out again.
I just set there that time along with everyone else. Lights came on and the forman says Phillips, get your bucket and come on.
I put everthing in the bucket and climbed out, ask him where we were going and he says you are terminated.
I didn't even know what the word meant at the time.
Remember I quit high school and went to welding school, OK.
What do you mean, terminated ??
You're fired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A few years later I found out why I was fired from a general forman on another job.
I worked to hard. The big bosses wanted to slow the job down, and avoid unemployement at the same time, and they were firing the ones that stayed at it.
There were several times I got my ass in the sling because I worked to hard but that is the only time I ever got fired for it.
And I also got locked up that day for assualt. I had NC State Police all over me before I made it back to Va.
If you have got fired 12 times in 4 years, something isn't right about that.
Either you plain out ain't worth a findely f@@@ or someone doesn't like you and is pulling some strings.
I think I would watch my back if I were you. I know I am.

[sethwyo]

Not necusiarly fired, lost.
Cant get along with the drunks, the drugies, the spooks the belligerent immigrants who think they own this country. Also this area is a boom town, everyone is out of their heads.

The insecure immuture men who are scared little boys inside And watching for someone to push around, If you ever push back then they will hafto beat you down in front of everyone all the time.

I have visited with some women from central and south america who wore looking for male friends from america, They told of 'Macho' or 'machismo' A problem with males in their parts of the world, It is DEATH before DISHONOR.

It is trying to pass some one on the highway, And they speed up, not letting you around, BUT then turning off at an exit or side road.

Its the man strutting around the store with a case of beer on his sholder, And his neighbor strutting up to him with two cases on on his, They both talk at the same time trying to impress the other and the woman at the checkout counter. "I got one of them new 500 magnum's, the whimp at the store told me it would kick quite i bit, BUT IT DONT, that p---y needs to get a bb gun"
"Well i got me a new truck (pickup)with a 800 pound allison transmission and a 512 cid engine, i had it up to 120 on the interstate the other day, i cant stand these f--s who drive cars and cant even drive the speed limit they should get a bikecycle"

I got stoped by a state trooper last night, i rolled my window down about 4 in, he wanted it down all the way, I told him no, "its comming down or im gona bust it out !"
He grabbed the door handle and found it to be locked,But that didnt stop him from trying to remove the door, i thought he was going to pull my jeep over on its side.

he gave a warning for bad taillights, the excuse for the stop, i went out to check them this morning, And there is nothing wrong with them.

So why did he do what he did?

he will now tell some big story to the other officers, something not true, But very wild, And it will make them more nuts about traffic stops and me. Even if there are any good officers they will be thinking about me in a faults light now.

People in america dont have control over anything, NOT one thing in their lives.
In their ignorant half dead minds they think that pushing and destroying others will make them strong and prove to themselves and others that they are capable and strong.
America died one person at a time.