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[CAPT357]

Just wanted to follow the rules and make a post within 48 hours so I don't get kicked out. Been reading this sight for a long time decided to subscribe to the magazine and join the forum. Lots of good common sense info in both. Trying to get ready for whats coming. Been a police officer for the last twenty-five years, the last twenty being in Tennessee. Thinking of moving to Wyoming. Went there in the early 80's, always wanted to live there. Don't have it bad where I'm at now. Six acres on the Cumberland Plateau surrounded by four-hundred acres of timber with a thirty-foot deep pond and a year-round flowing creek. Maybe I should stay put. Nearest large city is Knoxville 75 miles away. What do you think?

[flatwater]

Wecome and follow your heart , it may be God talking to you.
Flatwater

[Fred_47460]

Welcome to the site!! I just joined a couple weeks ago myself. This is one of those things I wish I'd joined YEARS ago!

Your place sounds great! The kind of place most of us might rather want to move TO....instead of FROM. Think long and hard. I screwed up big time 3 years ago when I sold 20 acres with a small log cabin and a good barn.....MAN...how MANY times I've wished I could do THAT decision over again!!

Fred

[kerryms]

Hi from Mississippi, I'm a new member and love this site. Why would you want to move? If you really want to move go visit the place first.I've moved alot,some good and some really bad. Sounds like a nice place but if your heart isn't there, then follow your heart

[B00kW0rm]

Hi Capt.,

Welcome to the forum. It's good to have you :). I also vote for following your heart. Where you are sounds perfect (to me), but if it's not where you're supposed to be....well, then it wouldn't be so perfect.

Whatever you decide, I know you'll enjoy being here:-)

[ms-woman]

Another HI from Ms, I want to say thank you for 25 years of protecting us here at home! My two brothers are in law enforcement they both work for the sheriff's dept; I am very proud of them. Its not an easy job! and the stories that they tell me :o

I'm sure that you will figure out what's best for you, good luck! But I have to admit just the short description you gave is many people's dream. Do you have a garden or raise any animals? Sounds like its pretty secluded there, that is wonderful. It'll be harder to find when TSHTF. What do you think is coming? Are you stocked up and prepared or still working on it like many of us? But at least we are thinking about it most people live in LA-LA Land!

We (hubby and I) are just frugal people that were raised like this. We bought 10 acres from his grandpa and are building a log cabin that looks out over the lake behind our property. We have several gardens(40x80,1acre,30x60) a milk cow, goats, chickens, guineas, beef cattle, 5 great pyrenees dogs, cats, a mule, a pair of belgians, and Moses a deaf, blind, fat lab mix that is older than dirt. Two kids and mom moved in last year. We live next to all my husband's family, so all the land around us is family too. It's nice living next door to family, actually everyone on our road is kin.

Anyway welcome don't be a stranger, we're practically neighbors!

[CAPT357]

Hi ms-woman,
Thanks for the kind words. My place is fairly secluded. It's at the dead-end of a mile and a half long county road that runs off of a two lane state road in a sparsely populated county. My closest neighbor is a half mile back towards the state road and we are separated by a 100 foot deep gorge. My little six acres are surrounded by a little over 400 acres of timber owned by a big-time nature lover who asked me to be the care-taker of his land since he lives in another county. We don't raise any animals or a garden. My parents {in their mid seventies} stopped making a garden this year. We have enough canned food from their gardens in the past to last them and my wife and I for a long time. We just this year started eating green beans and corn from the 2002 garden. Each year they canned about 200 quarts of beans and about 50 quarts of corn not to mention tomatoes, pickles, home-made soup mix, apples,peaches and okra. I know I'm blessed for all they've given me. My wife and I are stocking up on canned meats and everything else we like to eat as well as other items that I believe are going to get very expensive or very hard to get in the near future. Trying to get to the point where my family and I can be totally self-sufficient. I know I've got what a lot of people would love to have. The Wyoming thing has always been in the back of my mind kinda like a pipe dream, but when I check back in to reality and take a good look at what I already have I know I'm blessed. Besides, I've got way to much East Tennessee hillbilly in my blood to be happy anywhere else. You asked me what I thought was coming? Just watch the national news everyday and take your pick. Economic collapse, terrorist attack, illegal aliens flooding across our borders, food shortages just to name a few.

[ms-woman]

Glad you're back, I know the news is awful. I was just wondering as a police officer what has changed the most in say the last 10 years? Do ya'll have a bad illegal problem in TN? I thought ya'll had better laws than we do. My husband and I went up to Wheelin in the Country last year, and we didn't see any. Here at home its really bad. Most men don't let their wives go grocery shopping by themselves anymore b/c 10-15 illegals will group together and follow "pretty women" thru the stores. (Single women) It's getting to be really scary! My husband and a neighbor came up on a group that were on private property fishing with a couple of wild turkeys they killed. When they told them to clear out they pulled knives. It's getting where they are everywhere and always a big group.

As far as economics the big factories started laying off about three years ago, they all moved to Mexico and Brazil. Go figure all those people are here! I work part-time as an abstinence teacher, I work in 7 counties here in north, ms. I tell you kids today are AWFUL! One of the schools I work at is outside of Memphis, I was told to leave if the class didn't want to listen. One teacher had 7 stitches in her head thanks to a student. Most of our schools have sheriff's deputies standing guard what is the world coming to? I don't think it'll be to long before something does happen.

[CAPT357]

What has changed in the last twenty years is simple, no one is being held accountable for their actions. Between the ambulance chasing lawyers defending them, the judges on the bench {who are also lawyers} getting their pockets lined and the other lawyers who are all legislators either at the state or federal level honest law abiding citizens don't have a chance because all of them are whores. As far as illegals go we don't have a problem in the city I work in nor does the county. They mostly work on farms or construction and they know their place and keep it thanks to the local boys {private citizens}. Population here is about 98% white. Up here if you get caught trespassing the land owner will take care of business himself. They don't bother the local women either again due to the locals taking care of business. All of this I have described to you is in the city and county I work in with a total population of about fifty-thousand. I live in a neighboring county with a total population of only about eighteen-thousand and nearly 99.9% white. Up on this plateau people are still pretty clannish {thats clan with a "C" not a k} and stick to old school ways. Don't misunderstand me, we still have some problems but nothing on the scale other large cities have. Tennessee is a very rural state with only a handfull of cities with a population over fifty-thousand. The most recent stats from the state training academy show 85% of all city police departments and sheriff departments in Tennessee have 15 or less officers. My department is considered medium sized with 40 officers. So you can see we are spread pretty thin so most of the locals just step-up and handle a lot of it themselves. I guess the more I talk to people on this web-site the more I realize I better stay right where I'm at.

[ms-woman]

We live in a pretty clannish place to, Killough Hill (Scots) around here I've seen one deputy come down our road in the last three years. Our county is about your size, one large town and everything else is very rural. So we to take care of business. My younger brother works county part-time and is the only law for the neighboring town which he works part-time. They are spread to thin! But in some ways that is better, we wouldn't call them anyway unless its something major. Last summer my husband heard a couple cars go by the house about 2:30 one night, he went out to investigate and it was three cars full of illegals, they thought they were going to start something with his 17 year old cousin down the road. He said they piled out of the cars and a van and there was about 25 of them (how do they get so many in a car?) he grabbed a stick of firewood and told them to leave. He's pretty intimidating (he has an axe handle in every vehicle instead of a gun) his dad lives right down the road he heard the ruckus and stepped out with his shotgun. They left after my husband shoved one of thems head into the side of the van. Its getting pretty bad around here! We've heard of people being threatened by the illegals, like having their houses burned down and such. Ms did pass the Castle Law which makes things better. Used to if someone broke in you had to retreat, not anymore if they are even on your property and threaten you can stop it right there.
That makes me feel a lot better, my ex kidnapped my daughter about 9 years ago, I got her back but he still threatens alot, he's cut my brakes 6 times, run me off the road, and a whole lot of other stuff, he never got anything but a slap on the wrist. He has put two other women in the hospital almost killed them, then 4 years ago he raped a 14 yr old girl in front of three witnesses and he spent 1 year in Parchman. Our justice system is broke! Me I'm going to take care of myself, since then I've taken defensive driving, self-defense and I'm a VERY good shot. I'm a better shot than my husband hence the axe handle :) I'm not afraid of him anymore either. You ever hear what little girls are made of? Gun powder and lead! I couldn't resist I love that song. My brothers went into law enforcement b/c of what I lived through. They are 6'4" and 6'5" and they really don't like men that beat women. Anyway if I keep on you'll know my whole life history ;D Tell me more about you and your wife, any kids? What does she do?

[CAPT357]

Sounds like your ex could use a hollowpoint between the eyes. Wife and I have been married 32 years. She is disabled with fibromyalgia. Have one son he's 25 and just got married. He's a foreman for an excavation company {still likes to play in the dirt}. Please don't take offense but maybe you or your brothers should teach your husband to shoot. Axe handles are no match for guns. Number one rule in a gunfight is to bring a gun. Second rule is to bring a friend with a gun.

[B00kW0rm]

Sounds like your ex could use a hollowpoint between the eyes. Wife and I have been married 32 years. She is disabled with fibromyalgia. Have one son he's 25 and just got married. He's a foreman for an excavation company {still likes to play in the dirt}. Please don't take offense but maybe you or your brothers should teach your husband to shoot. Axe handles are no match for guns. Number one rule in a gunfight is to bring a gun. Second rule is to bring a friend with a gun.

I hope your wife is doing well. My mom, too, has fibromyalgia...along with RA & DDD. She is also disabled. Many days she struggles to be able to even take care of her own needs.

BTW, I'm a good bit older than your son---and I still like playing in the dirt ;D. However, I can't even get my daughter to make a mud pie ::) :o.....pitiful, pitiful, pitiful!

[ms-woman]

Just reading back over that and it sounds silly I guess, I'm not really that shallow. And I thought that I had forgiven him for all the things he did (forgive not forget) now I'm wondering, there seems to be alot of repressed rage here >:( I used to work with abused women and taught police dept and sheriff's depts how to respond to D.V. calls but quit that b/c it was to hard for me to relive it. I do teach how to recognize abusive relationships in my schools and sometimes I tell my story but it bothers me. I won't bring it to him but if he brings it to me or my family then the law now says that I can defend myself, last year it didn't. And that makes a big difference in how you handle a situation.

[WileyCoyote]

Naw, ms-woman, I was reading it and empathiizing. My first hubby was the same as yours; extremely violent and abusive to me and our sons. We were married for five horrible years. After a divorce and two years of running and hiding from this animal, I hooked up with an old friend who wanted to get married and take care of my sons. Because my ex never paid child support, DH was able to adopt them after we were married. DH and I have been married 26 years, and I still would drill my ex thru the head if he ever came near me again. I cannot forgive and will not ever forget. My sons both have very vivid memories of that horrible time; to this day (which is part of the reason I cannot forgive - what he put THEM thru).

My ex tried to contact my sons by phone four years ago and they both told him to go to hell and not bother them any more. It takes more than a push in the bush to be a father - and DH is the only Daddy they have ever known or ever want. Some men - the really nasty, cruel, and stupid ones - never get that; no, not even when they are told by a real man to never show their face again. They will still try to weasel themselves into other peoples' lives and be nuisances. Fortunately, "He needed killin' " is still a viable defense in some areas.

As for the illegals; the place we used to live was overrun with them; home invasions, gangs in the schools, hospitals going bankrupt prviding them with "free" medical care, and people losing their cars, property, and even their lives to drunk illegals driving uninsured vehicles without drivers' licenses. They would sit at the post office in groups, or go to town and county fairs, and attack women in their gangs - and the cops could do nothing, because they were illegal and they couldn't incarcerate them for long. Now where we live there is nary a one.