Get it together

[serious]

My wife and I are retired in our early fifties. We live in North Idaho, on our beautiful sixty acre, very well secured and equipped ranch. We can operate on or off the power grid and are able to survive for several years on what we have set up for ourselves. What we are looking for are a few qualified adult only couples (three couples) of like mind and spirit, to hook up with our current group out here. We would all plan to join up at our Ranch in the event of a local life threatening disaster of any sort.

We realize we can not sleep, take care of the chores and watch the borders all at the same time. Six additional folks (healthy and non smokers) with qualified eyes and hands can go a long way in successfully holding on to, what we all already have worked so hard to set aside for our personal futures. We initially qualify folks by what they have already acquired and accomplished, not by their intent or talk of future preparations. So, whoever might become our friends and join our current group, must already be carrying their own weight in completed preparations, provide their own supplies, have the means and have the mental picture of defending themselves and this small group in whatever way is required.

In turn, we can provide a very secure and comfortable semi remote location and great fellowship :)to those couples we might hook up with. If a couple is accepted by our group, they would then need to acquire a well equipped R.V. for their personal living quarters. We have already created sites, water, power and outhouses to handle only three. Considering the size of our Ranch a dirt bike or ATV would come in handy for you to get around, or you can walk. Once a couple is fully qualified, there will be some room available to cache nonperishable supplies here ahead of time. We have also teamed up with some of our other secluded neighbors here in various ways, doing much of the same thing, watching each others backs.

Again, each couple will need to be fully stocked in every area they expect to draw from, because the length of your stay here with all of us will be determined by when it is safe for you to leave or when your personal supplies run out. We can not get involved with families and children, just mature couples not wishing to overthrow the government, challenge local authority, hate others outside their own race, doom and gloom mind set or trouble makers. Just good American citizens wishing to hook up with like kind, working together to survive a possible crisis successfully. Please contact us and tell us about yourselves. Drop us a line. :) :) :)

[WileyCoyote]

I am a little worried about you and this post.
Please be careful.
I posted something awhile back about, would anyone want to participate in a communal camp where all were interdependent to survive TEOTWAWKI, and no one here said that they would be interested. Mostly it had to do with independence and trust issues.

I would be very hesitant myself to extend such an invitation on a board where anyone could take part. Most folk who "get it" are already prepared or preparing. Those who are not - or who have other interests in mind than simple survival - may be likely to put on a face that may fall off, revealing some not-so-nice characteristics, once they are with you for an extended period of time. Sorry to sound so untrusting, but there it is - those who are not independent enough to make their own plans are probably not independent enough to survive - or to make decisions that will help others to survive - whatever happens.

Since my bro lives in ID, too, and since we are planning together, perhaps a networking area of support and interdependence by areas, states, or areas of states would work - each one on their own property with their own facilities, but being aware of others with different and applicable preparations - might be better?

60 acres is a lot to protect for two people. That's kinda scary - I could do 10 or even 20, but 60 acres of upland mountainous and even wooded terrain is rather intimidating. Too many variables, and too many angles of approach, unless you are on the top of a cleared table mountain - and even that is scary. Good luck and please be careful...

[serious]

Thank you Wiley, for your input. We are not alone (two of us) by any means. We have a number of in town family involved as well. We are simply looking for 2-3 couples to introduce themselves and their qualifications. Everyone up to now has fallen way short as we have very high standards. I know what you mean. There is a very good chance no one will qualify, nothing ventured, nothing gained. However, if one might be brought on board, they would have to have developed a long term relationship with us, live in the area, be examined and checked out, not just show up. What we are looking for is a couple, well stocked and ready, yet might live in a suburb where survival is not a good option. It would require a life threaten event to bring us together and close down this Ranch. Net working during such a time with other families outside of our dead end dirt road area would be foolish and dangerous. If/when something does occur life will become dangerous for all. Sure, we could be taken out, so could you. If you know your forests and woods, hillsides and draws... it becomes a death trap for those who don't and might venture on them. We sure aren't moving into a bunker. We can do it with who we already have, but a couple more would help. ;) :) :)

[bookwormom]

I know just what you mean, as it is just too much for one couple,but I have to go along with WC.
I wish we had a community, not a commune, that we could trust and count on. sigh. Our place is not as advanced yet as yours, we are working on it, and then what. I hope my kids can make it home in time once the SHTF.

[WileyCoyote]

Some more thoughts I had today...

As an independent cuss, I would feel really uncomfortable living on someone else's property, under their rules and approval. For one thing, I smoke - why would I have to quit because I lived on the property of someone who decided that I could not live there unless I quit? I like to hunt, and I like to fish, and I like to ride horseback for hours, and I like to do these things alone. I am not a communal type person, nor even a community-type person - although I do play a mean hand of Uno, Spades, and Hearts... ;D
I like to drink - and if I made my own wine or beer, would I have to ask permission to drink it, or have to share? Naturally, I would not expect even a benign form of anarchy, but to ascribe to and be directed by someone else's rules in which I would not have a say would be uncomfortable and chafing to me. My first rebellious question would be - What are YOUR qualifications? Why should I listen to your ideas, or abide by your rules? LOL see what I mean? I was raised to question authority ("Who made them the authority, anyway?") and raised my children the same.

I just don't think that independent-minded people would agree to this. It concerns me that those who would take advantage of such a situation would agree - initially - though.

And - I HATE to bring this up cause I know you will immediately think that I am one of those flaming characters bent on self-destruction and martyrdom, but it makes a fine example - Randy Weaver and his family knew their woods intimately, too. For all the good it did them. Those who are determined to overwhelm or to be aggressive are not deterred easily.

Bookwormmom, my kids are fully aware of what we are doing, and they are making plans to join us prior to any SHTF incidents. We are each in the process of shutting down our "outside" lives to disappear quietly, peacefully, and without trails. Simply and cruelly, as much as I love them, I cannot afford for them to show up at the last minute, either empty-handed or followed by a ravening horde. They were raised with Darwin's rules, and are very much aware.

[serious]

Say what. geeze you guys. We own the place so guess what... do the math please. Next, we will close down all access to and from our site... so when your smokes run out, then what. Smokers can not hike the hills or keep up either. You glow in the dark and stand out in the dark on long watches. Another truth. No drunks as well. A little wine off duty is fine. There are NO means here to make your own booze. Nor will there be. Bottom line you do not fit, no loss. I could care less about Randy Weaver. We pay our taxes and have great standing with the local laws guys as well as the Feds. We will not cross swords with them at any time so why should we be fearful???? We have no desire for half baked people and those that have all kinds of wants and needs. This is about getting through to the other end. Period. Maybe this is the wrong site. My call handle is "serious" and that my friends... says it all. Only the serious need post to us here. Take your bad attitudes elsewhere. Thought we would give it a try. Another site we blog on develops much more mature people. If you are fully prepared but lack a good place here in North Idaho to weather a storm, so to speak, drop us a line. Do you have a full years supply of T.P.?? Meds?? Food?? Clothing?? Ammo??? Toothpaste??? Shampoo? Everything else??? More than likely not. We have enough fuel deposits to run for two years with out leaving, do you??? We have all the above and tons more. What qualifies us is we weekly upgrade and re-examine our position. We spend thousand and thouands, do you?? What we find over the years is you are all talkers but not doers. That is the sad but real truth we see everywhere. If the shoe fits... wear it. Most people we meet talk the talk, but never walk the walk. As said above.. Darwin will rule and we plan on seeing the sun rise for years to come. Do you... will you??? Sorry if this sounds tough but ..."frankly my dear... I don't give a damn" now that was a great movie line, along with "a man must know his limitations". Our children take over here when we get older, they are ready.

[WileyCoyote]

One year's supply? No. Two. We were trained by Mormons on how to do it, and two years is minimal.

I used Weaver as an example. The military or the government are not the only people who have heavy armament. Plus heavy armament is not the only problem; those folks who thought that de gummint was going to save them after Katrina are another example of what happens when there are no rules and no police and no way to enforce things. If people know where you are, and know that you have something that they want, they will band together to take it. Gangs and masses of people took buses TO New Orleans to loot. If there is a massive power grid failure or any other natural or man-made disaster, humanimals will be on the hunt. The hungrier and more desperate they are, the more aggressive and self-righteous and even self-excusatory they will be. Also the more cunning and destructive.

If you look at all of the posts on this forum, you will see that most of these folks are "doing" -they are doing it in their own particular ways and driven by their own particular beliefs. Not just talking. But talking about it, sharing ideas and what has worked for them and what hasn't, as well as philosophical chats, political and social commentary, and even humor are what make us human. Sharing these things with like-minded people is educational and gives us a deeper understanding, a pause for reflection, as well as essential information and ideas for improving things.

Your last response provides more information as to your attitude and motivations - as well as a great insight as to what people could expect from you personally if they take you up on your offer - than you could ever know. Thank you so much for your offer - but I think I'll stick to the people whom I already know personally and with whom I have developed a trust, mutual preparedness, similar attitudes, and mutual understanding, and whom have already been invited to share the load based on that trust and understanding. ( A few people who think that they will be invited to share with us - and who haven't been, because of their refusal to adequately prepare - eliminate themselves by their attitudes and their inability to get along with others.) One sorts the wheat from the chaff over time and imperceptibly.

[12vman]

No offense intended serious but when you gather a bunch of true independent thinking minds together, it's hard to figure who's the boss. Although your intent may be good, I don't see this as being a good idea personally..

IMO.. I'm a true "Doer" and I couldn't imagine being on someone elses property knowing that I'll never own any of it or knowing the fact that I could be dislodged at any time. This just doesn't fit my mindset. I understand the group effort thing but that's what neighbors are for. They do their thing and I do mine and I don't care on how they do theirs or should they about how I do mine..

Good luck on trying to combine folks like this on a common property that no one owns..
~Don

[serious]

No offense taken. I have seen countless posts of people trying to get on board or start a group. To little, to late. We have one couple right now from a different source that are professionals, military training/instructors. Over two full years worth of everything down to the heavy stuff. Problem is they live in suburbia and are looking to relocate. They do not want to try and recreate the wheel but hook up with a wheel already in motion. We do not want independant self willed people. We want people that will bend and do what is needed for the common good and survive. Those that have the supplies, are happy folks, helpers and not complainers, see what can be done rather than what can not be done will make it. No where 12v did we say someone would be dislodged off of here. Are intent is to simply come together to ride out a national disaster, or attack. We have no intention of having you live here for the rest of your life. This is not your new home, just a place to go and safely wait out while the area gets back on it's feet or it is safe to relocate. No disaster I have ever heard of in modern times has prevented the population from moving about after a month or two. I can not see why anyone would be stuck here for all that long. two years? If so, just what would be left to go back to anyway. So folks please do not think we are providing you a new home, we are not. But if you live in North Idaho and your present location...due to work or whatever will not provide you with the secuity you need then look us up. 12v, we do have some of our community out here on our dead end road engaged as a common contact and support network. Down to band adjustable radios. But we can not see them or they us. We have a good sized group right now on our two homes and RV sights right here. We are extending a hand to those who qualify to come and stay if they need to to weather out a crisis, not set down roots. I see us as being the most flexible in these post, not you guys. Go for it and try to go it alone your way. Wiley, so what if bands of thugs hungry and feelin tough are roaming around looking for whom they may devour? We know that, just why do you think you are privy to that. Alone... maybe you can hide, but two years worth of gear, etc. is not esay to hide. Safety in numbers is our thought. Enough on board to have four sets of eyes dedicated to watching. With a moments notice another 8-10 artmed peole up and moving. That provides good sleep and rest. As folks say when they come by, boy you guys are sure tucked away up here, what a wonderful place. I rather doubt we will get many roving bands of thugs comin here unnoticed. All the way out here, through the country are hundreds of other homes with no gates, easily approachable and redy to be plundered. They have their small food reserve, deer rifle and figure they will make it. We can observe our only dirt road into here from one of our hilltops for a clear mile. We can also block it with dropped trees or a burm cut with a dozer. This is no half baked operation out here. But again we offer a reasonably safe place. Probably safer than yours, maybe not. The details of it are privy to only a few. We also have another couple trying to complete their preparaptions to qualify.Very nice folks by the way. The reason you must live nearby is we all need to ba able to get to know each other and fellowship long before any such event might occur. This offer is not extended to people who will not be able to do just that. Folks in the North Idaho area are welcome to respond to us. The rest of you...I just can't help but wonder why you even spend your time posting on this site??? You clearly say you will not be part of it, don't want to, probabaly live far away and more. I can tell by your posts this is not for you. So why both posting your bummer news??? We are the ones going to all this trouble to try and help save a few others of like mind and will. That says way more to me than you nay sayer who offer nothing to no one. But advise that is. Try putting that in the common food pot and serving it.

[12vman]

Ok.. I misunderstood the part of not living on the property. So basically it's a place to go and hide if things get tough with a bunch of like minded folks and stick together untill the threat goes away. This might work for someone who doesn't have a place of their own to protect or for someone who lives in a city to escape the madness that would be sure to happen in an emergency scenario..

But again.. IMO.. It would seem to me that the type of folks that you would attract are the ones that haven't really done anything for themselves or have never accomplished a "safe house" of their own. (read nothing better to lose) I'd be a bit leary myself..

How I see it is that I'm the captain of my ship and it doesn't matter what resources I have, (big or small) I'm going down with it. I couldn't imagine leaving here to go and hope to survive somewhere else even if it was at my neighbors home. I'm sure my neighbor would feel the same way. I would certainly help my neighbor if he approached me for it because I would know that he was in dire straights. I'm sure that he didn't want to leave his ship either..

I need to ask you if you were raised in the country or in a city. There are two totally different mindsets involved here. I could see a bit of selfishness here to draw in folks to protect what you have and let what they have just go to the wayside. In my eyes, a proud person would never go for anything like this. This would lead me right back to the quality of the persons that you collect..
~Don

[azsavage]

Serious, i am new here but i have been lurking for a while and i think you came to the wrong place to look for sheeple, in case you hadnt noticed these people are doers, they will defend their stake to the death and it probably wont be theirs, the kind of people you are looking for are thew ones who will never be prepared because they are blindly following everyone else, if this is the kind of person you want i am sure you can find enough that you can sway to your thinking, as they love to follow, to build your little army, but dont be surprised if they are useless or worse they have just hustled you into inviting them to your spot so they take it while you sleep, if by chance this turns out to be a mistake for you dont head south you might run into a place somewhere around the grand canyon where things are done a little different we dont do touchy feely stuff here we shoot first ask questions later

[12vman]

Quote..

"things are done a little different we dont do touchy feely stuff here we shoot first ask questions later "

I didn't want to be that forward but that's pretty much the way it is here too.. LOL

Welcome to the mix.. ;)

[333]

Peace,

Wow that was some hello, lol well welcome aboard and enjoy.

333

[MadTripper]

At this point, anyone interested will get a hold of you. I don't suggest you continue to attack a community of people who gather and post for a multitude of reasons. Some folks live in the city and some rural. No one has the exact same ideals and while yours seem fine for your needs, others are just fine as well. By coming here and claiming you have some "just add water" compound and are looking for takers to help watch while you sleep is pretty bold and from what I can see, goofy. Good luck on your search and perhaps while you are here you can get some decent information on improving your setup instead of demeaning others advice and information.

Tripper

[serious]

I guess we aren't very clear to you all. We all run alternating shifts, we all do the easy and hard. I can not believe that in all the hordes living in highly populated areas there are not able to say, we have are stuff together but have not been able to afford to buy a second home or property to bug out to. This is an offer to those not already there, in location. Sorry oh hairy one... Mad tripper, you must be a burnt out druggie. You will not qualify either. As posted you Must have all you need, not be running here to survive off of us, fool. Please reread and weap. Each and everyone will be checked out. Many have looked into it, none so far have made it. Leave behind what may I ask??? A track house, apartment, mobile home you will defend to the death... fools. Learn to pick the hill you will die on. In town is not that place. I am truly disappointed with the caliber of people on this sight. I do not believe for a moment you have really invested ten of thousands as we have to build a safer place. Multiple water sources, fuel depos, food reservers, firing lines, two well built homes, multiple back up power supplies, fresh food, gardens, hot tub... and all kinds of ultra high tec gear and fun stuff. Well so long losers, we are looking for just a few... like the Marines... locals who realize their digs will not cut it. None of you posters live in North idaho so again, why post?? I think the weak, big talkers and wishful thinkers post here. At least I am willing to stste my limitationa and that to do it right we still need help. You all are determined to go it alone. Getting picked off by others as you sleep.

[333]

Peace,

Serious,

Name calling and degradation of others is not allowed on this forum, please refrain. Calling us all weak big talkers and such is juvenile to say the least.

You pandered your commune and had no takers, even though, it is a tad rude to start generalizing and condemning us all after your grand total of 5 posts.

If you choose to remain a member please abide by the rules.

Good luck

Thanks,

333

[Ocala]

I guess we aren't very clear to you all. We all run alternating shifts, we all do the easy and hard. I can not believe that in all the hordes living in highly populated areas there are not able to say, we have are stuff together but have not been able to afford to buy a second home or property to bug out to. This is an offer to those not already there, in location. Sorry oh hairy one... Mad tripper, you must be a burnt out druggie.

Look This is a very good topic but a very bad way of exploiting it.

Reasons.
1. you would like a compound setting so you work together as a team effort to help keep the property and goods at bay.

2. you would like serious people who are willing to take your command and ideas.

3. you think you have it all thought out

4. You get angry way to easily.

NOW the other side of these

1. GREAT idea having help BUT everyone wants something to call they own so unless you break the property up in to sections where the other half owns they own keep you will not find REAL people to help.

2. You are to demanding to others who may have a better or different idea on how to do things. " GIVING ALL ORDERS "

3. You may have put alot of time and effort in to this thought but real simple things can DEMOLISH your whole plan, IE: someone gets tired of listening to you bark nothing but orders instead of giving others ideas a thought and they throw mutiny on you and POOF you are gone.

4. You have shown your true colors on people who will not listen to what you say by getting angry instead of just listening and maybe learning something new or pondering a different idea." you can learn something new every day"



I could go on all day but maybe you should listen before you decide OR think before you react these are the things that make a good leader not a plan but a way out of the first plan and into an alternative plan in case the 1st does not work..


SO with all your well thought out processes WHAT HAPPENS if you have a MAJOR flood ?? your food and ammo are gone and you cannot do anything then what if you have to listen to someone else cause they SAVED you and are allowing you to live on they land??? YOU KNOW my dad said it the best.

" it is better to keep your mouth shut and look like a fool then to TALK and relieve all doubt


Just my 2 cents


P.S. I would have "seriously" SHOT you the 1st day we were together if the SHTF because of the way you act THEN WHAT all your hopes and dreams down the drain You NEED to gain respect b4 you order....

[azsavage]

i totally agree, you came here with your advertisement, some really well versed individuals offered their thoughts on your proposal and instead of learning anything you have gotten angry, insulted people and really just displayed your lack of qualifications.

in my neck of the woods we each have our own stake, we are located in areas that cover all access by road, we hide in plain site, we also have a system set up for all to respond in an emergency. each has their own vested interest to protect and realizes that we may have to work as a team to do it.

their is no commanding officer, each leads in their perspective area of expertise, and if you dont respect that you might end up alone fighting the hoards.

that quote was one of my fathers favorites as well!!!

[greenthumb]

SErious.....seriously u cracked me up ;D

1 year supply wont work for me....two years either,so i got ten years ,just in case.

[12vman]

Quote.. From Serious.. ???

"None of you posters live in North idaho so again, why post?? "

I've read this a couple of times now and I'm asking you the same question. If you have this figured out, why do YOU keep posting?

I'll stick to guerrilla warfare myself. It's been proven to be effective. Ask Hitler.. LOL

[serious]

We post looking for a local family or two to work with. We never said we gave orders, AT ALL. Again some of you engage your mouth before consulting your brains. We do have requirements and so would you if you were doing this. Just as a person/couple would have needs as well. We have already adjusted some of the guidelines in the past to accommodate them. They showed they were worth it. We have enough on board to get by, but a few more would be better. Me angry:):):) Hardly, you don't know me, but I do not ever have a problem addressing people who comment about something that they were not invited to chip in about nor really understand and start tell others what they are doing wrong. All we posted for and really want is someone up here interested in taking it to the next step, such as more emailing and maybe meeting up. From there we see if things will work between us, nice and slow. It is to them that take the time to understand what we are all doing that I/we will take input from, not some un-informed arm chair observer thinking they understand it all, so now they have an opinion? You have no idea at all. The details of what is going on we generally get into with "serious" people. Like everyday we have a common meal and every couple or family must have someone present. Others are on watch. At that time we discuss new ideas, re-think what we are doing, adapt, plan and do. I am not KING here but I have built the whole damn thing and know how it works. So in that give credit where credit is due. This is private property and we sure aren't going to be dividing it up so everyone has their own little "piece" of it... are for real or what? It is a place for you to run to in order to get team support to survive, not claim some foolish form of entitlements of land ownership. We need each other, but in the end... two weeks, two months or whenever...you pack up and leave. If your home burnt down you still don't get apiece of our Ranch to start over on. You can go it alone (in your minds) running through the countryside all year, if you really see yourself playing that loser game. Let's see... it gets down to 15 degrees below, here at times, then snow can get above your waste in a few days, deer and elk are long gone, water if frozen, you leave tracks marking where you are, you can not even start a fire because that will reveal your lonely position, you live in your dream world right now seeing yourself surviving it all from the comfort of you living room. The wolves will eat your remains. All we did here was post a wanted ad, right. Like we are posting locally for a German Shepherd to go with the others we have roaming our Ranch. Do we want someone to call us up and tell us we should not be doing that, or German Shepherds aren't as good as another type dog they like more, or whatever... I would hope not. If we did we would have written into Ann Landers or something like that, geeze... Maybe the editor here has a different site that one can post an add on and to where every Tom, Dick and Harry doesn't come out of the woodwork chipping in their two cents worth. Thanks but no thanks, We reserve that privilege for the real "serious" people already living nearby interested in a group effort to make it and make it in style and comfort. After they take the time to learn more about it all, then they will have the understanding to formulate intelligent observations. I no more could or should begin to tell any of you what to do or not to do to survive based on what I know about you from these posts. One more time please.. this is a want AD, not a comment AD. It would sure be nice to come to this site and see a posting from a local that was interested and even had a remote chance of working it out with the rest of us. What gets old here is.... all you know it alls talking so tough about how smart, preparded and well off you are in all this and how we are all wrong? That is fine if we had posted we were looking for reviews on our operation, which is already in effect. This is not about a plan we have, it is about something we all already have in place, are in agreement about and tested. It is not about whatever some of you "think" about it. Now that might come as a shock to you but... we just don't care about what you are up to, wherever you are. I see plenty of ads like ours and other types on another site and we would never waste their time to respond to them in Florida or Calif. or some other State telling them what they are doing wrong. What is it with you girls anyway, don't you have a life to attend to....

[azsavage]

once again you dont get it, we do not care about your operation or your plan, some folks here believe you have put yoursself at risk posting an ad like this thats all, you disagree and that is fine, you posted on an open forum for discussion not a classified ad, if you put yourself out there then you have to expect feed back. no matter what your plan is or how well thought out there are always improvements that can be made, it was suggested that you should be very careful with this particular part of it and you have done nothing but talk down to everyone who has disagreed with your post, i am sorry to be so blunt but it is my way, your attitude would never allow a person like me to follow you and i truly believe you are setting yourself up for failure, you are searching for sheeple who will follow you and will protect what is yours without question, you are not going to find people who are truly preparing for survival who will do that, they are fighters, they have been in this mindset their whole lives, and are not going to follow blindly into the pit, but you already know these things, you think this way yourself, why is it you dont understand it from others, basically you are asking others to do something you are not prepared to do yourself, you can not lead from the back. you keep talking about a situation that last a couple of months yet you are prepared for years, you say some kind of natural dissaster or the like but it sounds like you are prepared the end of the world as we know it and are looking for a force multiplier, nothing wrong with that, so what exactly is you are trying to do here, i am just trying to sort this out.

arrogance has been the downfall of many a man, including myself, yours flows through your post like the wind

[WileyCoyote]

A blog or forum is for discussion. Ads do not belong in blogs and are usually forbidden or exorcised.
If you didn't want discussion, you should've posted an ad. Since you posted your "ad" here, you received discussion.


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[12vman]

Ya know what, Pal.. I'm about tired of your insults. You don't have a clue of anything or anyone on this board. You "Talk" a tough game but I seriously don't believe that you could carry my tools around for a day. You seem to believe that you are the only game in town.. Guess what, Buddy.. You are totally WRONG! You're "I'm smarter than you guys" attitude makes me sick quite frankly..

Go post your bile somewhere else..

[WileyCoyote]

Nah, 12Vman. Let him stay.

I know a lot of folks who talk and post to forums who are just like him. Most retire to Sun City developments and tell everyone how they were CEOs of huge companies, and they know better than anyone else how to do everything right. Every time they type or talk, you can see them for exactly what they are. People need to know that there will be people like serious out there as well, believing devoutly in what they are doing, making provisions for what they see as a 'temporary' glitch, cause nothing really bad ever happens for any length of time. Those folks who still can't build in NO two years after the fact? That's their own fault and their own problem. The sturdy folk who had their guns confiscated "for their own safety" by the National Guard and police in NO, that took a year to get them back - a year where they had to move away because they could not protect themselves? And most guns couldn't be returned after that year, because the owners had to move away and couldn't be found? That was their fault for having registered guns. Any upheaval is temporary; whether its Yellowstone blowing its top, the swapping of the magnetic poles, any terroristic invasion over the Canadian or Mexican borders, that ex-volcano in the Canary Islands finally falling into the Atlantic and changing the whole NA coastline - all temporary; we will be saved. All we need do is survive the first year or less. And he has the key - temporarily, mind you.

All I can picture is "Bordertown" from the Mad Max movie whenever I read what similar people write now. Oh, well - people like him have been interesting characters in apocalypse movies for years. What great protagonists they make! Although I'm willing to bet Tina Turner still has the best legs of all of 'em... :o

[Ocala]

but I do not ever have a problem addressing people who comment about something that they were not invited to chip in about nor really understand and start tell others what they are doing wrong.

If your home burnt down you still don't get apiece of our Ranch to start over on.

I give up some people are just to dang ignorant

Definition of forum from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
a public meeting or lecture involving audience discussion

[serious]

Hi you all, "serious" here. Up to now this has become a comment section on what we have done and are willing to offer to share with others. Not a one of you has any interest in becoming part of it, you seem to think we truly care about your endless, meaningless opinions on something that you not only do not understand, nor wish to partake in, nor would be ALLOWED to visit. So for all of you busy bodies, NO COMMENT.. as you are not worth it....Bye for now and still checking in once in a awhile to see if a REAL "serious" person answers. We went fishing again today in our big new boat to stock up on Rainbow Trout for the winter ahead. We do stuff while ypou all arm chair judge.

[serious]

Hi you all, "serious" here. Up to now this has become a comment section on what we have done and are willing to offer to share with others. Not a one of you has any interest in becoming part of it, you seem to think we truly care about your endless, meaningless opinions on something that you not only do not understand, nor wish to partake in, nor would be ALLOWED to visit. So for all of you busy bodies, NO COMMENT.. as you are not worth it....Bye for now and still checking in once in a awhile to see if a REAL "serious" person answers. We went fishing again today in our big new boat to stock up on Rainbow Trout for the winter ahead. We do stuff while ypou all arm chair judge.

[serious]

Serious here. We do not know what might or could happen, neither do you. For us and our growing group we can lock down and stay put for two years, run generators with fuel stored, eat well, have meds, and fresh fish from our huge well stocked pond, fresh eggs, way out there in nere never land, a whole bunch of non informed ego driven fools judging us. No, you are wrong there, we are not from Ca. and we were raised right here in Idaho. Wealth to survive.... then... well several million could help and it will. We depart from all you "arm chair judges" and move on to real folks with real work done and need a place to weather it out. We might need four people at this point, but that number is dropping by the week. Go ahead and poo... whooo us with your childish comments:):):) We are already 90% done, are you???? Do you have four year wood cut and ready, five saws, splitter and hundreds of acres of forests???? Are you secluded?? Do you have a great remote neighbohood support group? Master gunsmiths??? Cover suport??? Do you rule the night, night after night. What are you going to do when your batteries for you rnight vision (gen. four I mean) goes dead, for the next three years???? What a bunch of girls. I can only hope for a real well prepared family or couple to show up. In these circle there are 99% blow hards and 1% real men and women. You are in the 1% if and only if you have it all done and set up. Did you spend tens of thousands and organize or spend a couple hundred at walmart and talk a lot??? From now on we delete all fools and look for real folks ready, set up but lack a bug out site...right here in good old North Idaho. Land of the free and well prepared. We truly do not expect much from this site anymore. This seems to be Mrs Manners or Anne Landers. If we decide to respond in the future we will address your handle and either say "deleted" or look for further communications. The second option is not much expected. We will die as you will, but we truly try hard to survive for now.

[azsavage]

the fact that you judge others and myself to be "fools" is a teatament to your arrogance, i have spent a lot of time being underestimated by arrogant people like yourself, never once to be defeated, keep underestimating people and you will lose everything, your army of sheeple is no match for the real men and women you so arrogantly demean and dismiss as novice unprepared armchair quarterbacks.

the fact that i disagree with you posting an invatation on a public forum or believe that your badgering is unwarranted does not make me any less than you, it should provide an opportunity for discussion where people have a chance to learn new things.

as far as the "girls" on this site, i think if you had to face one of these women you would crap your pants!!!!!!!

[serious]

You know after going over all this B.S. that came from some pretenters posting their unwanted comments about a simple ad to help folks that might need a hand or support.. we have decided to pull out. It is not dangerous to us because we remian hidden. No one here warrants a contact from our group. You all can judge us but Who cares??? You all seem to have your macho manly handles:):):) sort of like cartoon people you know. Masked avenger, lone ranger, wonder woman, super fool, green hornet....azsavage/ wiley coyote? what a bunch of children. What we have found is the vast majority of so called "survivalists" are make believe wanna bees that don't have hardly two dimes to rub together, let along truly set up a real time, fully equpped, safe ranch to hang out at. Most of you we have found are renters or live in mobile homes. Wanna bee tough guys:):):). Well we will now leave you all to your make believe little world of blogging behind the masks you want others to see you as. Problem for you is... staying here proves our point....we have no masks and you have NO LIFE. Bye

[azsavage]

ROFLMAO........YOU ARE A RIOT, more fun than most, more easilty rattled, good luck.

for the record, AZSAVAGE= Arizona+Savage a nickname i picked up in the gulf. let your imagination wonder why.

20 years of honorable service, thats 3 major conflicts in case your history is weak, i got more time on the toilet than you have in combat so try to not to crap your pants on your first time out.

[WileyCoyote]

He keeps saying he's gonna leave in a Huff (a 1957 Huff? A Woodie?) but he doesn't.
Instead he double posts his anger and angst and personal attacks.

This just gets better and better - and more revealing by the day. Now we're being lectured and chastised by a millionaire. Of course, anyone can be what or whomever they want to be in Blogworld and Forumworld.

Like I said before - this is proof of the different types of folk that are out there whom we will have to contend with sooner or later. Very educational.

Do keep on, Serious. I await every supercilious word with bated breath.

[12vman]

Ok, WC.. I see your point. This guy's gettin' better all of the time..

I wish he'd start a new thread. If he did, I'd win a big 'ol chocolate bar with almonds! ;D