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jim
10-22-2007, 02:58 AM
I've had this new Bushnell scope for three years and never used it. Saturday, without checking it out at all, I mounted it on a rifle and went to the range. Alignment was so far off that I had to have it optically bore sighted (first time ever!). Then, the power band wouldn't work, so I'm stuck at 3X for the duration of deer season. Not a big thing, but not what I wanted either. So, I zeroed for 2" high at 100 yds and will work with that. Guess I'll try and send it in for repair after the season is over. ::) Worst day ever on the range for me.

jim

Mac_Muz
10-22-2007, 04:17 AM
That's too bad... I spent hours mounting a illuminated Simmons on my bolt .308, and the first shot at 150 yards was 1/8" high, and 1/4" left of dead center.

I haddn't even turned any adjustment on the scope..

I used leupold mounts, which are supposed to be bomb proof.

The next time I used that scope the red illuminations inside was dead out, and since that scope has a life time warrenty I returned it.

I got a new one ok for the old, but so far haven't mounted it.

I wonder if I can simply drop it on the mounts and have it work out? I bet not...

3 x in NH is all you ever want... I bet 3x in Texas isn't even close....

jim
10-22-2007, 08:31 AM
You guessed right, you'll have to resight the new scope just like the old one.

For most places, 3X will work fairly well. I seldom need to get closer than 100 yds, and have shot more deer from 25 yds than further out. Further west of here, some long range shots pop up from time to time. ;)

jim

Mac_Muz
10-22-2007, 02:53 PM
Yeah it figures.. and it is on my to do list, with a million other things.. No iron sites on that gun either, so it is a better paddle than a gun for now.

The site bases are a tad tuff to get straight with out the special tools. I mounted that gun on a level table with a bi pod, and hung a plub line to get the vertical..

Being lefty it seems most scopes are off in terms of vertical to me.

Next was windage and this is tuff to get right with out that tool too, as Leupold bases can with ease crush any scope.

At first I set a 1" orange dot on a target 50 yards away and by eye bore sited the scope looking thru the bore and then the scope on low settings and worked up some in power to refine the picture, always making adjustement to the bases.

The bases are set for the other scope, and while this new one is the spittin image I just know the cross hairs will be off.

Probably i can drop that scope in and hit a 6" paper plate somewhere as is, but that isn't good enough to suit me.

When I hunt I like a clean kill and or a clean miss. So far I have never lost any game wounded and would like to keep it that way.

I am sure you understand. The good thing is I have other rifles..

jim
10-23-2007, 02:29 AM
A bit of a coincidense on this. We're both lefties, and using Leopould rings and bases.

I faxed my scope troubles to Bushnell yesterday morning at around 10;00am. I got a phone call from them at close to 1PM letting me know that they'd look at the scopes and repair for free, and if not repairable, they'd give me a discount on a new unit. Not bad customer service I'd say.

jim

Mac_Muz
10-24-2007, 01:58 PM
Simmons is life time warrenty... a bit better, but I hope this scope stays working.. The Aetc illuminated scope was "history" when I got my new warrentied scope... makes ya wonder how many they kept huh?

If this messes up I want a illuminated mil dot in graduations.. Probably go with a loopy scope too, if they make them..... The gun is a Interarms Mark X in .308 Winchester, with a Fagen plain walnut stock, and no righty cheek piece.. no iron sights and so why I NEED bomb proof.

I wonder at this point if I would even like a lefty gun. I am so used to righty guns that I just gotta wonder how I would do it "right?"

I bet you are like me.. in prone I never remove my trigger finger from the guard, and do anything else with my right hand. Oh well, I move my left index finger to the trigger once I plan to pull the trigger..

Standing I tend to grip the area of the "pistol grip" and point to the sky to operate the bolt, since my left hand is still supporting the gun.

Or maybe you reach over??????

jim
10-26-2007, 03:42 AM
I used to do it that way, now I reach over while rotating the rifle almost 90 deg to the left. Still prety fast thataway. If a lefty shoots in this way, and uses a Scout scope, there is no need to buy a left handed rifle.

jim

Mac_Muz
10-28-2007, 12:38 PM
hmmm sounds interesting. I'll give it a try.

DM
10-28-2007, 03:58 PM
I'm left handed and shot RH rifles untill i was well into my 20's... Then i bought myself my first LH bolt action rifle, and i quickly found out how much using those RH rifles handicapped me!!!

You couldn't pay me enough to go back to a RH rifle!!!

If you are left handed, do yourself a favor and get a LH rifle, get use to it and you will become a much better rifleman because of it.

DM

jim
10-29-2007, 04:51 AM
I use both, and with both hands. Slightly slower right handed than using my natural bent, but competent enough. Same with a bow. I just enjoy shooting!
jim

Mac_Muz
10-29-2007, 06:13 AM
My only lefty gun is a Kentucky Long Rifle in flint. It feels very off to load it.

Perhaps I have been using righty guns so long I can't get used to a real lefty gun???

I use lever actions which seem to not be righty/lefty much.

Bolts feel fine to reload so long as they are sand bagged, or on a bipod with my right hand running the bolt.

Standing I reach over the top to run the bolt lefty, and will most certanily try turning the gun like Jim says..

Semi Auto guns tend to set me off when I catch hot brass in my belt..... ouch!

Most pumps work out well, an some times guns like Colt clone cap and ball seem pretty lefty in the first place.

So do top break shot guns.

It might be since as a child I was punished for being lefty, that I can't un do that damage.

I can throw a ball righty only and there is no way I could do that well lefty.

jim
10-29-2007, 08:15 AM
Colt single actions ARE lefthanded guns. The Army reserved the sabre for the right hand, and the pistol for the left since fighting was spitting distance in most cases.

I throw right handed, and bat right handed too. Knife or club either hand.

jim

Mac_Muz
10-31-2007, 01:08 PM
I didn't know the Colts were lefty but I have a clone 1860 Army that works well lefty. I understand that saber bit and so understand... Thanks..

I throw righty only, and that gets impressive to all righty shot gunners when I can throw my own clay with a thrower and blast it to bits lefty.

To me it is a no brainer, no different than tossing a ball up just to wack it with a batt.. The bat is just bigger.. Of course I don't say this then!

jim
11-01-2007, 02:31 AM
;)

Rancher
11-01-2007, 04:58 AM
I too believe that Colt Single Actions, (and it's clones) are in fact left handed. However, the design seems to work equally well for left or right hand people.

Years ago I read a short biography of Sam Colt indicating that he first carved a wooden model of what became his revolver, while on board a ship as a seaman. I remember that the story mentioned that Colt was left handed.

jim
11-02-2007, 03:57 AM
Interesting historical note here; While in a foreign port (presumeable the Middle East) a muslim assasin tried to garrot Colt. Old Sam, knowing what that swishing sound was slammed his head backward and knocked the Jihadist on his can. They both went to the ground, and he later commented that he was lucky that the hand carved model wasn't broken. He never admitted it, but I suspect he killed his attacker.

Sam Colt is as close to be an official state Saint as anyone ever gets around here.

jim