homeschooling family harrassed

[bookwormom]

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=323640

[Cil]

I hope they do sue the social worker and have arrested for trespassing and child abuse.

[MNMOM]

Another overstepping their bounds. I think we will be seeing a lot more of this. People are going to have to be strong and stand up against this type of invasion.

[Global_Gal]

I can't believe anyone would let the Gestapo in their home like that.

But then you would think Social Workers would know the law better with all he bad publicity they get for doing this same thing over and over again.

[madmac]

One bad social worker doesn't make all of them bad. This one should lose her job. These folks were violated plain and simple. They should find themselves a good attorney.

[rivahmom]

It is important for every homeschooling family to never allow anyone in your home from the state especially if their purpose is to interview your children or if they want to question you about your curiculium. Do any and all dealings with them outside of the door and respectfully ask that they get a warrent for anything else. Also refuse to do any extra paperwork required by your school district if it violates your state laws. This is going to become more common as the school systems struggle for more federal funds.

[leera]

I don't know anything about homeschooling,but I would of kicked the social worker out just as soon as that person even touched one of the kids......

I think you're right though,there will be more of this as more and more families choose to home school.

[bee_man]

This was a perfect display of what we have to look forward to in the future. personal invasion will become more and more frequent. the sad thing is that it is to late to do anything about it.

[Catalpa]

You're half right, bee man. It's what have to look forward to, but we can keep fighting it, we can write and call our elected officials, reminding them they work for us, not the other way around. If they refuse to listen, and continue to try to pass legislation the take away our rights, it's time to vote them out of office.

And never open the door to government officials!

[Funkhouser]

Most social workers know better than to pull a hare-brained stunt like that. *For the few over-zealous 'bad apples' out there, you are officially on notice! * >:(

Homeschooling parents, know your rights! *If you don't know them and exercise them, it's as if you never had them in the first place.

[Bandit]

And these are only the violations We hear about.
Bob

[softwarefilt]

This is horrible, I can't imagine how that incident impacted the children. It goes to show that no matter where you are or what you are doing you need to have strong personal boundaries and know your rights.

[pinetreefarm]

I think there will be harassment of these families altogether. California is working very hard to make it impossible to home school. In Minnesota, so far, we have not been harassed. The laws are not unreasonable. However, particularly in small school districts, the loss of students affects their bottom line. If this would continue, there will be a push to get homeschoolers into the system.

Many here home school for religious reasons, others because of the teaching methods as well as the material. I have noticed a change in as much as they seem to be teaching to the test...a product of no child left behind.

We homeschool simply because they get a better well rounded education.

Pine

edit for additional thought.
This has nothing to do with teaching but Meriam-Webster on line has now accepted the word bailout as one word while homeschool, they insist is 2 words. Go figure.

[mtwildflower]

*yawn*

This article is vague...no names, no town, no anything substantial. All of it is suspect. It's as good as animal rights activists getting all upset over reading that someone that someone in Iowa kicked their cat and nothing else. So?

What's the point in reporting it if there no Who What Where When and Why? Otherwise, it's as good as a fart in the wind.

I'm not saying there aren't over zealous social workers out there, but what I am saying is that this article is not news. It's the story of many home schooled families. If we're to do something about it, then some concrete facts would be nice.

[rantinraven]

We home school our children and twice we have been threatened by authorities here to call CPS. Both times it made my blood boil. The official position here in our town is that children can't get a good education at home. I have stood up both times and let them know directly that I know the law, and I will sue the city and the state for interruption in my daily life over something as frivolous as that! A lot of people don't know their rights we live in a small town where everyone has to be in everyone's goings on. Its sad. I kinda feel like I am in the military as a homeschooling parent and have to keep my kids and our values safe from all enemies, local, and local. It does happen though, that's why the national defense leagues are in place so we can get help in defense of what is our God given rights. Raven

[Gwynyvyr]

*yawn*

This article is vague...no names, no town, no anything substantial. All of it is suspect. It's as good as animal rights activists getting all upset over reading that someone that someone in Iowa kicked their cat and nothing else. So?

What's the point in reporting it if there no Who What Where When and Why? *Otherwise, it's as good as a fart in the wind.

I'm not saying there aren't over zealous social workers out there, but what I am saying is that this article is not news. It's the story of many home schooled families. If we're to do something about it, then some concrete facts would be nice.



Well, maybe if you had taken the time to go to the link provided in the article, you would have read the whole story...try it, c'mon, not hard to do...just click!
http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/fl/200811060.asp

As for social workers...after the Safe and Happy Family Act was passed, your children ceased to be your children. If you signed a very innocent looking paper at the hospital (required by 48 states) you MUST allow social services in your locale the right to inspect your children, their health records, their school records, etc.
A friend of mine calls CPS workers "Baby Stealing B*tches" and she used to be one. In some states, they get a *bounty* for each child they remove from a home when they can successfully get the parental rights terminated and the child adopted.

Of course, everyone will cry "It's for the c-h-i-i-i-i-i-i-l-d-r-e-n."
BS. It's for the bottom line.
A child in foster care or an adoptive home is 8 times more likely to be physically or psychologically abused, maimed, raped or killed than they would if left in their biological home--with or without support services.

CPS abuses far out-number their success stories. Kids *lost*, kids killed, kids put into homes where they are used for sex or for virtual slaves. Kids shuttled from foster home to foster home while their biological parents try desperately to jump through a series of impossible *hoops*
I knew one family that had to attend 17 psych. eval.s IN ONE WEEK.--6 kids. Dad lost his job because he had to take parenting class-required for ALL families being investigated by CPS in their area. 4 hours a day--during the day--for a week. After one solid year of jumping through hoops, the family lost the kids anyway. Why? CPS stated the children were now "bonded to their foster homes and would suffer psych. damage if returned to bio. home." Apparently not an issue when the kids were dragged screaming and crying away from their parents!

CPS workers are the worst of the *jack booted thugs*.
They claim powers that they do not have and bring in cops that are so ignorant of the law that they back up the CPS workers.
DO NOT LET ONE OF THESE PEOPLE IN YOUR HOME---EVER!

[bee_man]

Ok I know that most people will not agree with me on this one but I will say it anyway. This kind of thinking is one of the main problems with our country today. Too many people have been brain washed into thinking, the government will take care of us. The government would not do anything to hurt us in any way. If it comes from a government worker it has to be right. People-- OPEN your eyes, the government is not our friend. Due to a position that i once held in law enforcement i can tell you that the general public only ever hears of about one to five percent of what actually goes on in the united states.
KNOW YOUR RIGHTS AND STAND BY THEM. *

[grower]

I have homeschooled since 1990, and had "authorities" called on me 4 times -- twice the school system and twice the DHS. The main reason we had so many "visits" was because we've moved a lot and so we had to break in a whole new set of nosy neighbors each time. But in the process I got pretty experienced at dealing with visits like that. For one thing, if you can afford it membership in the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) is a really good idea. Someone comes to your door, and you say, "Would you please wait right here...outside the door...while I call my lawyer?" Then you call HSLDA, and they are very prompt and knowledgeable. Usually they will say, "Let me talk to the social worker/school official..." And it doesn't take long once you have a real lawyer -- whose eaten a social worker for lunch many times -- talking to them, for them to excuse themselves and leave, and never come back. I highly recommend belonging to HSLDA, especially if you live in a state that's known to be hostile to homeschooling.

[Steve_L]

Good gawd. If I came home and found a social worker in my home strip searching my child....

[Teg]

Seems Social Workers in Florida are pretty bad, while I was stationed there I remember a story on the local news where they actually lost a child who was put into foster care, the worker who was supposed to be checking on her had just pencil-whipped her checks, as far as I know she still hasn't been located. When they came on base we always escorted them and made sure they didn't get carried away and overstep their bounds.

[mtwildflower]

Well, maybe if you had taken the time to go to the link provided in the article, you would have read the whole story...try it, c'mon, not hard to do...just click!
http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/fl/200811060.asp

As for social workers...after the Safe and Happy Family Act was passed, your children ceased to be your children. If you signed a very innocent looking paper at the hospital (required by 48 states) you MUST allow social services in your locale the right to inspect your children, their health records, their school records, etc.
A friend of mine calls CPS workers "Baby Stealing B*tches" and she used to be one. In some states, they get a *bounty* for each child they remove from a home when they can successfully get the parental rights terminated and the child adopted.

Of course, everyone will cry "It's for the c-h-i-i-i-i-i-i-l-d-r-e-n."
BS. It's for the bottom line.
A child in foster care or an adoptive home is 8 times more likely to be physically or psychologically abused, maimed, raped or killed than they would if left in their biological home--with or without support services.

CPS abuses far out-number their success stories. Kids *lost*, kids killed, kids put into homes where they are used for sex or for virtual slaves. Kids shuttled from foster home to foster home while their biological parents try desperately to jump through a series of impossible *hoops*
I knew one family that had to attend 17 psych. eval.s IN ONE WEEK.--6 kids. Dad lost his job because he had to take parenting class-required for ALL families being investigated by CPS in their area. 4 hours a day--during the day--for a week. After one solid year of jumping through hoops, the family lost the kids anyway. Why? CPS stated the children were now "bonded to their foster homes and would suffer psych. damage if returned to bio. home." Apparently not an issue when the kids were dragged screaming and crying away from their parents!

CPS workers are the worst of the *jack booted thugs*.
They claim powers that they do not have and bring in cops that are so ignorant of the law that they back up the CPS workers.
DO NOT LET ONE OF THESE PEOPLE IN YOUR HOME---EVER!


Realizing this is now stale dated, but WTH, I'm bored.....

Why would I have clicked on another link and searched and searched for more meat at the HSLDA site in the story? If it's not in the link provided, why do I need to go looking for it?

And nothing I've signed in the hospitals when my kids were born, in either Montana or Georgia, states that I have to let CPS in my door ever, and I've birthed kids since 1988 through to 2008. There is nothing that I have signed that would let CPS see my kids' school or medical records, either. I find your statement of that to be perpetuating a myth that is simply not true and fostering uneccessary fear in young parents and those who have not learned to use their spine and simply say "no" to the threats on their doorstep.

Thing is that there is this big, scary monster that has been painted as being the CPS or whatever the legal child stealing entitiy in any given area is called. I do not find anything constructive in coming up with all kinds of chilling andecdotes saying this family or that was tortured at the heavy hands of any agency that overstepped. If you are going to homeschool, it is up to you to know the laws and know what CPS or any like agency can or cannot do.

If one is too stupid or too ignorant to know this and too spineless to not assert and know their rights, then they are too stupid and too spineless to home school and I can't say I feel particularly sorry for anyone who finds themselves in that boat.