The Doors Of Perception Why Americans believe all

[Buck]

This story discribes American almost all to well on average. :'(

"Aldous Huxley's inspired 1954 essay detailed the vivid, mind-expanding, multisensory insights of his mescaline adventures. By altering his brain chemistry with natural psychotropics, Huxley tapped into a rich and fluid world of shimmering, indescribable beauty and power. With his neurosensory input thus triggered, Huxley was able to enter that parallel universe described by every mystic and space captain in recorded history. Whether by hallucination or epiphany, Huxley sought to remove all bonds, all controls, all filters, all cultural conditioning from his perceptions and to confront Nature or the World or Reality first-hand - in its unpasteurized, unedited, unretouched infinite rawness.

Those bonds are much harder to break today, half a century later. We are the most conditioned, programmed beings the world has ever known. Not only are our thoughts and attitudes continually being shaped and molded; our very awareness of the whole design seems like it is being subtly and inexorably erased. The doors of our perception are carefully and precisely regulated. Who cares, right?"

http://www.rense.com/general78/believe.htm

[docsoos]

I feel compelled to quote a character out of a movie, "Platoon" to be exact.

When Sgt. Barnes walks in on the soldiers that are grieving for Sgt. Elias, he takes one of their opium pipes away from them, smells it's smoke, takes a good long draw, and asks them: "....You all smoke this sh*t to escape REALITY? I AM reality."

Edgar Allen Poe wrote some interesting pieces under the influence of drugs, as did H.P Lovecraft, and a multitude of other "creative" individuals.

They all died penniless, and paupers. Now, THERE'S SOMETHING to shoot for....... ::)

Being "conditioned" and "programmed" to be RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH to wake up every day, and make an honest living that supports one's self, and family, and contributes to the good of society as a whole, has worked for countless ages. Guess that's not good enough anymore, eh? Being predictable and responsible? Guess we know who YOU'LL be voting for this November.....It's time for a CHANGE, all right.

DocSoos

[Buck]

"Guess we know who YOU'LL be voting for this November.....It's time for a CHANGE, all right."

THIS ain't about me, mate. It's about how American's see themselves.

or

Did you miss that point. ::) ::)

[RangerRick]

By chance you're referring to the change from that of an honorable hard working and self-fullfilling posilibilities that the realities of here and now bring us rather than that of a pinko type change that would be the dream of the progressive liberal socialist that brings slavery to the masses. *Just pull your head outta your butt, you'll find the change *reality brings quit refreshing.

Tks, but no thanks * ;D

I'd like to recommend this bucko tripe be moved to "lifestyles" as a more appropriate location.

Ranger Rick

[WRTN]

I feel compelled to quote a character out of a movie, "Platoon" to be exact.

When Sgt. Barnes walks in on the soldiers that are grieving for Sgt. Elias, he takes one of their opium pipes away from them, smells it's smoke, takes a good long draw, and asks them: "....You all smoke this sh*t to escape REALITY? I AM reality."DocSoos

;D ;D :D ;) Good call! I am gonna have to remember that example. ;D

[Buck]

I'd like to recommend this bucko tripe be moved to "lifestyles" as a more appropriate location.

Ranger Rick

Listen,bub. Just who the hell made YOU a moderator?

[tufhelp]

Buck, did you miss the point of the copyright message? Who the hell gave you dispensation to tread all over the copyright rules posted for this site. You continually post well over the 50 words stated. Not to mention your deliberate posting posts in the General section that should be in their relative section all in an effort to make sure that we the unwashed will stumble into your “brilliant” messages.

Here is the link for a post directed at you and your habits. I doubt that you missed it since you were the first to put your 2 cents worth in on it:


http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/yabb/forum1.pl?board=bhm-announcements;action=display;num=1212020920

[RangerRick]

Listen,bub. Just who the hell made YOU a moderator?


No one made me a moderator there ole liberal progressive type fasist buddy. *I've no desire to undertake the task and unlike you I've never requested it. *Oh, and I'm so *sorry after all your begging to admin to be made a moderator so you could purge all us poor dumb unwashed hillbilly morons from the forum, and still you were rejected as unfit. *But alas, even admin in his great and infinite wisdom can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Ranger Rick

[bookwormom]

thanks for the link Buck. It would be good if everybody would read the article. then we could attempt to look at a real issue objectively, and not start tossing mud about who is voting for whom, which does not amount to a hill of beans.

I am sure a lot of us are already aware of the message of the link, especially if you have read the writings of Neil Postman. Really worth reading.

PS please excuse me for sounding grumpy, I would like to present it different but it just does not work out, however, what I am trying to say is, this is important, it shows the ring we have in the nose by which we are led like an ox.

[jim]

British buck

The very people you despise the most here are the least lead. No one has a ring in the nose of The Gang of Four, and very few others around here,

Why would we be interested in the mindless ranting of mescaline freak?

jim

[cinok]

THIS ain't about me, mate. It's about how American's see themselves.

Is buck in the states or up in canada maybe we should send him on a little island vacation

[jim]

Don't know where he's at right now, but you can be sure he isn't an American, and therefore his opinion on things American isn't worth spit. I know more about the British and any other Europeans than he does Americans.

jim

[GoodDaughter]

I read only part of the referenced article... I stopped reading because it's just so much drivel.

He said 'It's not about me, mate, it's about how Americans see themselves'.

??? What Americans? Who? No one I know! I think it's quite telling when someone uses such a blanket statement about a people and does not include themselves.

As far as being led by the nose... I am not led anywhere. I am probably the most self-actualized person I know. Self employed, independant, capable of critical thought and intelligent, educated discernment, and wow, I'm quite happy in my American lifestyle. I use no one and do not allow myself to be used, or led.

Pity that Buck has been brought up and educated to believe that he, and therefore all of us by association, cannot obtain true self-actualization. It must be terrible to be so trapped by one's own doubts.

[madmac]

I don't know about the rest of you but I don't see myself like that at all. I know who I am, what I am and were I am going. I keep myself in a survival mindset just so I can deal with nuts like the one Buck mentioned. I can live in the woods just as well as I can the city. I don't need to wonder off in some spirit world of oz or whatever to find myself. I am right here. The government won't condition me or change the way I see things. I am an old dog set in my ways. So I guess that blows this idiots theory about Americans.

[GoodDaughter]

Back to the mescaline guy...

Why in the world would one need to take drugs, even of a 'natural' origin, in order to strip away the conditioning of our society? A day and night spent in the woods, mountains, desert or frozen tundra with no food, water, shelter or fire would strip away that conditioning and bring one face-to-face with 'reality' pretty quick, wouldn't it? No need to take drugs to do that. ::)

[RangerRick]

Some folks, mostly progressive liberal troll types can't deal with reality and must escape into their own little limited worlds to find self-satisfaction in their own drug induced stupor. What a waste and oh so sad for one to pass up on reality.

Ranger Rick

[333]

Peace,

Wonderful it seems admin has had to intervene in the school yard on my watch. This does not bode well for the folks who can not resist the urge to poke fun maliciously and those lemmings who all to easily follow suit. Those that bait and run also.

CONSIDER THIS YOUR ONLY WARNING

It will stop immediately.

I will personally follow it from board to board if I must.

There will be heads on the lawn I guarantee it.

This forum was nice and peaceable for quite some time.

Discuss philosophy in here or leave, no exceptions.


333

[WRTN]

Buck, I find that we agree on nothing for the most part but as is the case in life's realities, there is an exception to every rule. ;D

The article you posted the link to although beyond verbose, unconventional, and painfully lengthy aims at summing up the dangers that Thomas Jefferson warned the Republic about leading upto and after the signing of our nation's Constitution.

There are many truths outlined in this article as it attempts to point out to us how "WE" as a nation for the most part have come to believe and have faith in whatever the government or our leaders tell us because we have lost the ability, will, and courage to independently think, apply logic, reason, and moral integrity. In short the very essence that created the foundation of liberty this once great nation was founded upon. We drown in a police state yet have NOT the courage to stand against it nor the presence of mind to see it for exactly what it is. The state has won at pulling us as a nation down to the lowest possible denominator hence bringing us the corrupt cesspool of a society we now are experiencing. I would say live in but I for one and I am sure MANY others refuse to.

I can't say as I support everything Huxley subscribes to but I can see his attempt at getting the message across hammering around the edges.

Buck, by posting this link, I think you may have tapped into your inner constitutional conservative libertarian. ;) ;D Good job! :)

[WRTN]

Peace,

Wonderful it seems admin has had to intervene in the school yard on my watch. This does not bode well for the folks who can *not resist the urge to poke fun maliciously and those lemmings who all to easily follow suit. Those that bait and run also. *

CONSIDER THIS YOUR ONLY WARNING

It will stop immediately.

I will personally follow it from board to board if I must. *

There will be heads on the lawn I guarantee it. *

This forum was nice and peaceable for quite some time.

Discuss philosophy in here or leave, no exceptions.


333


333,

In the most positive sense I can portray, I think you are "a day late and a dollar short" on the moderation of the trolling.

I ask collectively, where have the moderators been?????? A number of threads have been over run, destroyed and deleted, not to mention edited is such a manor to remove all but the orginal offender in my 2 cents worth of opinion.

I can't speak for everyone but more than a few members here including myself have chosen to no longer participate here because of the constant trolling by the "usual suspects".

I made this exception because I was shocked (in a good sense) by the link and article Buck posted.

As I posted above, I agree with little Buck posts but don't think that is justification to be uncivil with him or others.

[333]

Peace,

All to often benevolence is mistaken for weakness, and non action is mistaken for permission. We as moderators may act slowly sometimes, and yes we cant possibly read every post here, and we do have lives outside this wonderful forum. Make no mistake though ...our wheels do turn. We like to let adults be adults sort their issues out on their own.

I thank you for your vote of confidence, and do so much enjoy reading the majority of post that come through here.

Personal bigotry and petty name calling will not be tolerated in open discussion.

I am sorry you stopped participating. Maybe when the silliness sorts itself out you will be able to return comfortably.

333

[MelleeRN]

I was amazed to stumble over a quote that was first implemented in a debate geared towards pointing out the misconceptions of the ideals of the human mind. that quote was also used to document a census of how many people will utilize another's words whether it was a truth or a falsehood, for statistical purpose you should be pleased. You are with 79.6% of Americans who utilize data without the true knowledge of what it is intended for or directional purpose. This data was implemented with in an debate type forum to demonstrate the prevalence of plagiarism and lack of originality among college students and thesis. the philosophy aspect of who we are as beings is completely disregarded and con-screwed in your posting. However, I did enjoy the reference. I had not thought that I would really see it used outside of the collegiate environment. However, if you wanted to debate on how we, as beings are molded in a controlling environment, than you have proven it. Plagiarism and passing off another ideals as ones own is the purpose of the use of those words. If you are ever concerned of plagiarism or misuse of quotes than you can utilize a web site called turnitin.com