TSHTF scenarios in other countries?

[Ponyman]

I was just curious if other countries have people preparing and talking about these scenarios and how their preparations may differ from ours? Anybody know?

Ponyman

[Weezin]

Check out sites in Switzerland, Israel , UK etc....
3'rd world countries are worried about whats going in the cook-pot tomorrow .
We're lucky to have a few bucks left at the end of the week to buy a case of canned beans to put back or 10 dollars worth of hot dogs to put in the freezer........
We're lucky to have the options....
............................Weezin................ ..

[silvergramma]

lets go on aol in thePlaces section and ask.. one way to find out

[Bootz]

A few years ago there was some info posted by someone who had lived in Yugoslavia during their civil war and I found that info priceless. Was it here or on another forum?

[CanNerd]

The US isn't suffering at all compared to many other countries, but it probably won't be much longer before we begin to feel the full effects and of course most people won't be prepared to have limitations put on their pampered lives.

[maineyankee]

For a lot of people the solution was to sneak into the USA.

[Mr.B]

A few years ago there was some info posted by someone who had lived in Yugoslavia during their civil war and I found that info priceless. Was it here or on another forum?

I was there for the Kosovo Ground War. The people I dealt with where amazing.

Very resourceful people, they would use the scrap wood on base from pallets and what not to build houses. Sift through our trash off base to find stuff we felt was garbage.

Allot of bartering was done there in country with the nationals as well as with us and we also bartered allot with the British soldiers.

Old combat boots throw in the trash, where pulled out of the trash in minutes only to be repaired and used by the local nationals. Some G.I.’s just set there beat to hell boots next to the dumpsters. Because they knew that that local folks could use them.

I saw a younger kid maybe 10 or 12 use one of our old radio battery to power a head light on his bicycle.

Car parts fabricated from a block of metal cause the didn’t have the part needed, so they made it.

I saw men bird hunting a number of times. People from what I gather grew allot of there own vegetables. I also saw lots of potted meat foods there.

The list go’s on and on.

SHTF for these folks, so I don’t know if this really deals with preparing for it.

[Nomen_luni]

Hi folks. UK here.

I frequent a uk site by the name of housepricecrash (http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk) Many on the site predicted the bursting of the house price market here well before it hit. The main forum used to be titled 'house prices' but after the bubble burst people became so concerned about the economy that a minority of posts were actually on topic, to the extent that they renamed the forum 'house prices and the economy'. It is well worth a look if you want to gauge the sentiment of some of us across the pond who are perhaps a little more aware of the dire situation than the majority. The sentiment has changed a lot in the last couple of months and you will find quite a few threads on preparation for varying degrees of SHTF.

Now if only I could get my Sister in the states to start listening. Every time I tell her to prepare I get a sob story about how she can't afford it, although she earns damn good money.

[CanNerd]

People are bailing out of California in droves now and even the illegal aliens are finding things better in Mexico. When the housing market collapsed everything collapsed. Unemployed hit 10.1% and that does not count the people already off the grid, like me. Many people are here because they don't have the means to leave, like me, so we just dig in.

I have numerous friends who are also clueless as to what is going on and a couple are at the stage of losing their jobs and they still have no clue. It is sad, especially when you try to point them in the right direction. I assume God has a reason for keeping them in the dark.

[marnee]

Right now Northern Mexico is dealing with gangs uniting to overthrow their government. Yes, we have gangs in our country too, but they aren't uniting and fighting against the country like this. For people in that city, surrounding cities, and even in the rest of the country, that is and is going to spread to others as a SHTF event.
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=43907

We also have different natural disaster SHTF scenarios than other countries (tsunamies don't really happen here...)

I imagine SHTF scenarios would also be different for countries depending on their weather (no refrigeration, no air cooling, no heat etc) and all of the problems that happen because of that. Of course many are already living in those conditions now and it isn't that big of a deal, but it could be.

[Bootz]

I was there for the Kosovo Ground War. The people I dealt with where amazing...SHTF for these folks, so I don’t know if this really deals with preparing for it.

The best way to prepare is to study what people needed the most in other SHTF situations. How can you prepare if you don't know what you are preparing for?

Two things that stuck out for me were the following:

Buckets with mop wringers were high priority items for washing clothes.

People found that mental health was a major priority and toiletries and paper were prized above food.

Having survived my own SHTF scenario, I'm struck time and time again by people's lack of preparation for mental health, and their disbelief that they will start to suffer any ill effects in this area, not even the effects of sleep deprivation.

The need to be creative and the ability to be able to self-soothe are CRITICAL when under extreme stress. Now is the time to acquire skills and collect materials.

Learning about post traumatic stress disorder is necessary even if you think it is just to know better how to deal with the crazy people around you.

[mdcreekmore]

The economic collapse of Argentina in 2001 which wiped out the middle class and raised the level of poverty to 57.5%.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4353655982817317115

[Backwoods_Bob]

Speaking of Argentina, I highly recommend FerFALs blog.

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

He seems to have his head screwed on tight and has lots of very good advice, based upon first hand experience, on how to handle tough times.

[MotherCharlotte]

I'm in Canada. I don't have cable tv myself, but I noticed when I was watching tv at my parents' house last week that the federal government here has started running an advertising campaign called Get Prepared (www.getprepared.gc.ca). The government is saying that every household should have enough food and supplies to last at least 72 hours in case of emergencies.

Of course 72 hours worth of supplies aren't much so most people around this forum, but I think it's a positive step to at least get people thinking about what would happen if they suddenly didn't have electricity or couldn't buy food for some reason.

[crafty2002]

Any home that doesn't have enough food and water for more than 72 hours has a fool for a tenent.
I am trying to prepare buy being able to raise, grow, and can our needs, and let's not forget the ammo.
And twenty five gallons of gas with the gas saver will cut a lot of firewood for heat and cooking too.
I guess the creek will be the air conditioner like it was when I was a kid, LOL.
Dennis

[MotherCharlotte]

Any home that doesn't have enough food and water for more than 72 hours has a fool for a tenent.



I agree, Dennis. However, I am sure that probably the majority of the population is in that situation, and I'm glad the government is at least bringing up the subject, since most people would never think of it themselves.

I personally have been working hard to increase our food stores even though at the moment we're living in a small townhouse. My husband just built new shelving in our storage room (out of recycled wood, yay!) and every time there's a good sale I'm stocking up as much as possible. I still have a long way to go but it's a big improvement over my mindset of the past, which was "go shopping when the pantry is bare!"

[sethwyo]

I was just curious if other countries have people preparing and talking about these scenarios and how their preparations may differ from ours? *Anybody know?

Ponyman
There was a lengthy post on the frugal squrils form once from a man from argentina who talked about the SHTF situation that country was in in 2000 when its economy collapsed, It was interesting and informitive.

It covered everything, the cops, the gangs, the armed citizens, the un armed citizins, guns food storage water fuel electricity vehicles blackmarkets, everything but sex.