invasion of the usa

[flatwater]

Here's a scenario, the USA gets invaded by a foreign country. Do you run and hide at your mountain cabin , seek to help our military or find like minded patriot's. and do it on your own?
Flatwater

[WileyCoyote]

Hmmm, flatwater, interesting.

I guess it depends on what you mean by invasion.

Considering that between us and the Soviets, almost every country and/or terrorist group now has WMD (except for Iraq), as well as tanks and military style weapons, our shotguns and rifles, even our pistols or some of our stashed M-16s and other weapons that we have 'ascertained' would be a poor defense against an invading horde.

Not to mention that most of our military is overseas in other countries, and what is left here either just got back from somewhere or is preparing to go - we would have a poor chance of partnering with our local military force. Moreover, they have been trained to not trust the local folk's motives; so a local militia that shows up to "help" - especially during a time of violent attack and upheaval - would just as likely be shot dead by frightened military personnel as not.

The problem with "finding like minded patriots'' is that a lot of people SAY that they are patriots, but many will turncoat out of fear or hoping to gain something from the opposition. I trust very few in that scenario... and the few whom I trust would not be enough to make a difference in an all-out invasion.

I have thought a lot about this. I don't believe in defense, but offense. The only way to have a good offense is to wait and see what offensive strategy is used by the attackers, and determine not merely a protesting (and ultimately suicidal) defense, but an appropriate offensive to counteract that offense. (There is a name for those who would throw themselves blindly and passionately against an invading force in an all-out attempt to stop force with force - "cannon fodder".) Then one would have to determine and unify available resources (soldiers, patriots, equipment, weaponry, supplies) into a viable offense - probably initially "Swamp Foxes", snipers and guerrilla fighters - all with an ultimate objective of weakening and demoralizing the attacking forces for ultimate planned attacks.

You know - like what the former US patriots used, the Vietnamese used, and currently the Iraquis are using. When one is attacked on one's homeland, one uses the techniques that work, as well as one's own knowledge of the territory (which the attackers do not have, even with GPS!) and available personnel and defenses.

Until that time, we would all be sitting in our buggout homes, looking innocent and poor and unremarkable, and preparing quietly.

edited - but we have been invaded already; if you consider the invasion of 30 million illegal South Americans not only coming here and taking advantage of all of our entitlement programs, disrupting the labor force, and manipulating our politics and politicians; or the selling out to China of all of our industry and even political and fiscal wealth. Those kind of invasions are best prepared for on an individual survival basis, as our politicians have sold our birthright for a mess of pottage.

[JAK]

As a rural Canadian or rural American, like the Native Americans before us, there is not too much that can be done about the growth of our cities, which is perhaps the greatest threat to our way of life when you think about it. Like the Native Americans before us we are becoming increasingly outnumbered, marginalized, and different than what is becoming the majority that are replacing us. Sure, we can keep things going in our little neck of the woods perhaps another generation or two, but then what? All you can really do is raise your children as best you can so that perhaps they might figure out where they fit into Gods plan. Perhaps the best revenge is living well.

As for race and genetics. I don't put much stock in that. I have very little in common with these people in cities today, whether they be from Calgary, Toronto, or Edinburgh. Today I think I have more in common with the natives we seem to keep trying to exterminate.

How do we fight them in the hills when they are in the cities? If we fight them in the cities we will only become like them? I say wait them out, as the Native Americans seem to be doing.

Honour thy Mother and thy Father.
Fear The Land. Consider the End.

[edward_4576]

As for a military invasion, I can't see that happening. A sneak attack yes but only with ballistic or intermediate range missiles. Any force that attempted to invade our coasts would have to deal with the Navy. Over the poles we would see, invasion through Alaska, rough territory and again satellite would see a build up of forces on the Bering Strait.

From the south again satellites would see the marshaling of large forces to our southern borders. And one last thing to remember, the USA still has a redundant mount of nuclear weapons at her disposal.

Now, as stated earlier, a slow invasion of the USA has already happened. That's why every individual needs to remain vigilant. If a "militia" started up that only accepted members that were say:

1. males only
2. Between the ages of 18-25
3. On non-american decent
4. Radical religious extremists

Well you get my drift.....

[JAK]

The problem is not racial, it's urban.
How do you stop cities? You can't.
You have to wait until they collapse.
Then perhaps things will get very ugly.

You can't control these things.
You just have to roll with it.

[remington]

I know some people won't agree with me on this, but, I don't see anybody invading us and lasting more time than it takes to take a photo. Nobody can go toe to toe with the brunt of the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines without getting whipped and sent home with your tail between your legs. However, if something like that would happen, WELL THOUGHT OUT. I repeat WELL THOUGHT OUT guerilla tactics would be the best bet.

[RangerRick]

Sorry guys but we have already been invaded by Mexico to the tune of 20+ million and counting and we as a nation "DO NOTHING"!!! Patriots have done nothing, government does nothing and we the tax payers pay the bill for support of the invaders.

>:(

Ranger Rick

[copperhead51]

Yup, the mexicans have invaded us but he neocons have done the REAL damage. And, like the mexican problem, people do nothing.

[alma]

I agree with ranger rick on this one.
We have already been invaded, and the end is not in sight.
--invaded by people, that is, who are taking our jobs, lowering our standard of living, raising our taxes to pay for the goods and services rendered to them, our armys and national guard abroad, along with our remaining jobs being OUTvaded..
The corporations have taken over the whole world and are playing footsies with all of us, setting world labor at odds with one another.
It is us against them, i suspect.
They have taken over the government here and everywhere, and we are all pawns in their game.
We are all being made into slaves. Our labor, our hopes and dreams of upward mobility going fast..
Labor, divided, is the greatest assurance to them of their success.
"Divided, we are conquered."
Somehow, we have to refuse to turn on one another, and forced, ultimately, into some kind o civil war. That is exactly what they are hoping for. Civil war is the greatest weapon they have always had against a real revolution of united labor.
The "communists" had it right.
"Workers of the world unite. You have only your chains to lose."
All else is folly.
We can't rightly hate those who have come here for a better living for their families, nor can we hate ourselves for being mad at them.
Here in tenn. they are everwhere, taking jobs, good jobs, that our people once had, and the bosses love it.
They don't want this invasion to end. They love the cheaper wages of the invaders, and lowering the standards that we aspired to.
That ought to put uppidy labor in it's place.
Go ater the bosses that hire thenm, and the landlords that are housing them for a dear price that our taxes pay for.
Go ater the suites, and not fight each other in the streets.
At the rate we are going, there will be no social security left, no health services for our people, etc.
They ought to be sent home to have a revolution there instead of causing a civil war here, when we need a united labor force strong enought to take on the big boys.
The "invaders" are being given lollipops, so can never expect to join us, so let's go ater the lollipop factories.
It's always, "What am i gonna get if i DO. What's gonna get me if i DON'T." love, alma

[RangerRick]

Well damn Alma, guess I'll have to move your name over into the Politically Incorrect category. Welcome aboard!

;)

Ranger Rick

[TNDadx4]

Very nicely said, Alma!

We've got to find a way to control these things and secure our borders. Unfortunately, it seems like the ideology of the mighty dollar is the driving force for a lot of people.

I wish that we as a country would wake up and so back to being more self-sufficient and sustaining, rather than moving to globalization. Unfortunately, that does not look like the case.

[Weezin]

In Edwards post of 8-9, I talked of a invasion through Alaska.
Well we've already been invaded from Mexico.
In our little town the dock at the local fish cannery is 75% Mexican and I doubt you could find a green card anywhere on the dock.
A few years ago I got weathered in at Kodiak. The King Crab Festible was in full swing. I was blown away how many Mexicans were in town.
About a month later I was at Sea-Tac airport in Seattle, went outside to have a smoke and ran into a Border Patrol agent.
Told him about all the illegals I had seen in Kodiak, he said he knew. But couldn't go to Alaska unless they were ordered to do so.
Thanks uncle, guess we're stuck with them.....

[ArmySGT.]

The problem is not racial, it's urban.
How do you stop cities? You can't.
You have to wait until they collapse.
Then perhaps things will get very ugly.

You can't control these things.
You just have to roll with it.

Just like the Romans, who knew water was very important. Poison the wells. LA or NY could be crippled and rendered uninhabitable in under 24 hours by simply poisoning the water supplies with medical grade nuclear materials. Look at the massive aqueducts neccessary to support either metropolis with water carried from States far away. Heck the inhabitants will gleefully tear the city aparrt for you if denied electricity.

[Nickathome]

I used to think the black man was the number one scurge of this country, now I think differently. We have definitely been invaded by a Mexican horde, and its too late to do anything about it. The day I saw illegals protesting in the streets is the day I realized the war in that regard is lost.

[RangerRick]

I used to think the black man was the number one scurge of this country, now I think differently. We have definitely been invaded by a Mexican horde, and its too late to do anything about it. The day I saw illegals protesting in the streets is the day I realized the war in that regard is lost.

Oh no it hasn't. We in Oklahoma are passing laws and litterly cleaning the vermin from our borders. You don't want this plague visited upon your state, get off your butt and do something about it as there are millions of your neighbors that feel the same way as you.

Rick