BFG All-Terrains...

[Matthew]

Anybody have any experience with them? I recently acquired a 2000 Toyota Tacoma 4WD that needs new rubber. The size is 31x10.50. My driving includes a moderate amount of off-road time.

[Tightwad]

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/overview/All-Terrain_TA_ko/44.html

Unless you plan to spend a LOT of time off road these are the
wrong tire for street use. Sure, you can use them on the street
but there is HUGE fuel penalty for doing so. You might as well
drag a boat anchor as drive on these tires for the damage they'll
do to your MPG. These tires will also be so noisy on the street
they will damage your hearing.

Suggest that you shop for a tire that is way more street friendly
because any truck tire will do OK off road in most case for once
in a while use.

[Matthew]

Thanks TW. What truck did you use these tires on? What size did you have? How long did the tread last?

Also, is the fuel economy hit because of the tread design or the size? These are the tires on my truck now:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+RT% 2FS

Would the BFG's be better or worse than these?

[Tightwad]

Thanks TW. What truck did you use these tires on? What size did you have? How long did the tread last?

Also, is the fuel economy hit because of the tread design or the size? These are the tires on my truck now:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+RT% 2FS

Would the BFG's be better or worse than these?

I had a Ford F150 that had tires just like the BFG's you say you
want. They lasted me about a week before I removed them to put
on better street tires. The road/tire howling went away and my
mileage went up about 5>7 MPG. (For real !!) I was damn glad
to get rid of the noisy turkeys.

I'm going to be brutally honest with you mate. From what you
say you've just got the big eyes for funky tires to trick out your
truck that ain't got a damn thing to do with what you really NEED.

The tires that came on your truck (Goodyear's) are the BEST
BALANCE for your use as stated in your post. That said, instead
of worrying about tricking your truck get real*and buy tires just
like came on it and save yourself a lot of gas money while you
have peace of mind that you've got good shoes on your baby.

[Matthew]

TW, my original question asked for people who had experience with the tire, not knockoffs.

The 31x10.50 size is the stock size for this truck. Frankly, there aren't any smooth highway tires in this size that I could find.

Anyone else have actual experience with this tire?

[GREEN_ALIEN]

Matt,

Yea I got em. Have run them on my Jeep TJ exclusively since .... hmmm 98 I think. 32 X 11.5 BFG AT

No more noise than the factory tires that came on the rig.

As far as wear I have ALWAYS had them substantially outlast the mfgs mile ratings.

Fuel usage is EXACTLY the same in town and 1.3 MPG BETTER on highway.

Another case of TW flappin his gums to hear air pass... ?

Ted

[Tightwad]

Matt,

Another case of TW flappin his gums to hear air pass... ?

Ted


Personal attacks such as this are a violation of forum rule and
a cheap shot taken to forward your opinion over mine. My info it
every bit as valid as your's or anyone elses, mate.

[Tightwad]

TW, my original question ?F?[F? ?ho had experience with the tire, not knockoffs.

The 31x10.50 size is the stock size for this truck. Frankly, there aren't any smooth highway tires in this size that I could find.


The response I gave you was based on experience. It matters not
that the name on the tires I had were EXCATLY the same that
you are looking at. It matters that the tread design was the same.
Off road tires are off road tires today or tommorow.

As to the Street tires now on your truck.....
It's as I said they are the BEST BALANCE between street and off road.
I had a set of those. If smooth is what you want them Mechlien used
to make a really good low noise tire in your size. Just don't try'em
in snow as they are useless.

[Toad_Sticker]

Off road tires are off road tires today or tommorow.


All off road tires are far from being the same ::)

TS

[Toad_Sticker]

if you are looking for a smoother duel purpose tire try;

http://www.pirellityre.com/web/catalog/car-suv-van/catalogo_sizerange.page?prodotto=1422&uri=/pirellityre/en_IT/browser/xml/catalog/car-suv-van/SUV_SCATR_SUM.xml&vehicleType=CAR-SUV-VAN

I ran a set of these on my F150 in the mountains of Colorado for 2 years and then on the interstate here in Ohio for a year.
It is a good compromise and they ride very smooth.....Much more so than the Cooper discoverers I have on now.
TS

[GREEN_ALIEN]

Off road tires are off road tires today or tomorrow.


TW This statement alone pretty much proves as to whom has a valid point.

There is quite a difference between a personal attack and pointing out when a noob is passing facial gas. If you don't like fact, move on. If you want to point out rules to me get a suspension under your belt. If you want to help other users with a critical issue such as the tires on their vehicle maybe take a more helpful and informative path based on fact or factual event, not solely personal opinion.


GA

[Tightwad]

The tires that Toadsticker has posted look to be good
riding smooth tires. IMO they are much better than
the BFG's for daily use.

[Tightwad]

All off road tires are far from being the same ::)

TS


Maybe. However, the hallmark of "off road" tires is the aggressive
tread/soft sidewall design as the BFGs asked about have.

That was what I was refering to not the various quality of tires.

Both the tread design and softer sidewalls work great in dirt/rocks
but inflict a fuel/noise penalty on the road.

[Thomas]

I've used them exclusively for lots of years, the ATs. I have not noticed a noise problem, or a hydroplane problem. I get about the same mileage out of the tires or better than the tires the mfg. put on the pickups. The AT tread will not clean itself of mud well, but inspite of everyone saying the sidewalls are soft, they have been very puncture resistant for me. I do a lot of travel over mesquite. These are the tires I have chosen for 8 full size and smaller sized 2 & 4wd pickups since 85. And most of my driving is hwy., 60-70k a year.

[JakeLeg]

i disagree with the though process that AT tires are a huge difference from purely road tires.

i switched my '85 bronco to ProComp AT tires and saw MAYBE 1 mpg difference. i cannot be convinced that an AT tire affected 5-7 mpg, if both road tires and ATs were exactly the same size, rim, and inflation.

ATs are perfect for the person who does plan on doing a little bit of firelane or trail driving without mud, in which case a Mud Terrain would be better. My ATs were great in the snow too. The mild increase in road noise with an AT is something even my granny wouldn't complain about. I sold that truck about 25,000 miles after putting those tires on and they still had considerable tread. Maybe i had magic tires on my truck, but i highly doubt it.

[scoutinlife]

My Silverado came with Bridgestone Dueler AT P265/70R!7 113s and I really like them no problems no real road noise smooth ride as well as good for the light duty cutting wood and going through fields and such. I will be sticking with these when I bought my truck included tires for life as long as I have my oil changed at the dealership every 3200-4000 miles they charge 20.00 bucks and every fith oil change is free! ;D

[Steve90]

My son recently put a set of BFG all terrains on his landrover discovery. *We were off road in it a while back, and I have to say that I was impressed with the behaviour in mud. *Obviously not as good as a dedicated mud-terrain, but good none the less. *On road, I didn't find them particularly noisy, and they seem to have a reputation here for being long lasting (Damage aside ;)) *Most of his driving is irregular, but long, trips when he comes home, so on road manners needed to be good as well. *As a compromise tyre, overall I think they were a good purchase.

And , they look good. :D

Edit: I've also got a set of mud terrain tyres (7.50x16) I use on my landrover sometimes. Very noisy and indifferent handling on road. The normal ones I have are General Grabber SAG radial. http://www.ajstyres.co.uk/tyres/General%20tire.jpg is the new version I think. These have lasted me well in excess of 20k so far, and there's tread left. Again, good on road and not bad off it.

[Matthew]

Thanks all, this pretty much makes up my mind. I stopped by my local Sam's Club last week and they carry the BFG's in stock. I actually found some Michelins that looked more like a street tread, but they were more expensive than the BFG's, offsetting any mileage differences.

Internet searching has yielded a general opinion that these are great all around tires. I'll see how they do.

[John_Wayne]

Matthew, I have some experience with the BFG T/A's. I've ran new sets on a '97 S-10 Blazer, an '89 Jeep Wrangler, and an '00 Ranger...all with good success. They are definitely in the higher price range, but in terms of durability, they are worth it. Not too noisy, and not too detrimental to economy. If you need something rugged and reliable for off-road use that isn't a burden on the street, go for it.