Fencing question

[cinok]

Getting run to do some perimeter fencing and also some smaller areas. Cuple of questions. Do you all put your fence on the inside of the posts or the outside. Also with woven wire on long runs has anyone spliced sections or do you make the connections with H type post setup.

[momma_to_seven_chi]

Outside looks better to people passing by and keeps corners tight and snug. Inside works better if you have some sort of animals leaning against it to scratch themselves, but few people ever do inside. My dad use to do inside for pigs in small pens who would rub and lay against it.

[Anon001]

In any areas where you see a lot of livestock, most people put the wire on the inside. That keeps livestock from pushing it off the posts. We just ran the first mile of about 5 miles of fencing and it is always on the side of the livestock.

With woven wire you can do it either way. You can splice each strand of the woven wire or you can put an "H" brace and splice at the brace which is what I would be inclined to do. However, with barbed wire, I just splice it inline.

[Rick]

I don't have any expertise running woven wire fence (yet).

But I wonder if you could run it on the inside along the length of the fence, but run it outside at the corner posts? That way the livestock wouldn't push the fence off of the posts; but you would have the strength advantage of going around the corner posts, rather than relying on staples to hold the woven wire to the post.

[Anon001]

Usually when you get to the corner, you wind the wires around and then start a new run along the next side.

LOL.. In this area, if you ran any fence on the outside, people would think you were either nuts or a city slicker LOL

Paul

[Rick]

Usually when you get to the corner, you wind the wires around and then start a new run along the next side.
Paul

Ahhh, that makes sense.

[AlchemyAcres]

Getting run to do some perimeter fencing and also some smaller areas. Cuple of questions. Do you all put your fence on the inside of the posts or the outside. Also with woven wire on long runs has anyone spliced sections or do you make the connections with H type post setup.


Wire is run on the inside for livestock, some like to put wires on the outside for horses (especially high tensile fence), the idea being that if the horse spooks and runs into the fence, the fence will give rather than cut.

I splice with sleeves and a crimping tool.
H-post setups are used in extra long runs as a point to stretch to and tension the fence.


But I wonder if you could run it on the inside along the length of the fence, but run it outside at the corner posts? That way the livestock wouldn't push the fence off of the posts; but you would have the strength advantage of going around the corner posts, rather than relying on staples to hold the woven wire to the post.

There's nothing wrong with running the wire around a corner and stretching from both directions.


~Martin

[Anon001]

Martin,

I guess the reason we do it the way we do, is because it is common to have 1/2 mile run from corner to corner. As the fence ages and if it's necessary, it's easier to restretch 1/2 mile than both 1/2 mile sections... if that makes sense.

Paul

[Rick]

:)

I used to live in Kansas. Every road in the state is 1 mile apart, straight as an arrow, and has 640 acres of wheat in the middle.

A great state.


(slight exaggeration, but only slightly)

[Anon001]

:)

I used to live in Kansas. Every road in the state is 1 mile apart, straight as an arrow, and has 640 acres of wheat in the middle.

A great state.


(slight exaggeration, but only slightly)

LOL It depends on what part of the state. Where I'm at the roads are one mile apart. They may be straight, but they are far from flat and level. We have more corn and soybeans than wheat, even though there is a lot of wheat.

Most people around this area still have the crop fields fenced off in addition to pasture since they run stock on stalks.

Cinok, The main thing about the fence is if it lasts longer than you, then you've done it right.

[momma_to_seven_chi]

Wire is run on the inside for livestock, some like to put wires on the outside for horses (especially high tensile fence), the idea being that if the horse spooks and runs into the fence, the fence will give rather than cut.

~Martin

That makes sense. My dad and his family always ran it outside in large pastures. Probably because we had so many horses. He ran it inside for the pigs.

My husband and I still run it outside for the goats. I guess I will have to tell him we do it wrong. Strange because all my family does it that way. It's just what we learned.

[Anon001]

That makes sense. My dad and his family always ran it outside in large pastures. Probably because we had so many horses. He ran it inside for the pigs.

My husband and I still run it outside for the goats. I guess I will have to tell him we do it wrong. Strange because all my family does it that way. It's just what we learned.

Hey, if it does the job, who cares? Right?

[Rimfire_Red]

Reminds me of the story of the gal who was once asked why she cut the ends off of every roast she made. She said "That is the way that my mom did it." When questioned, her mom told her she did it like that "because my old oven was small and if I didn't a big round roast wouldn't fit"! :) The "wrong way" may have been (or be) "right" for your situation.

Seriously, looks outside and livestock inside (as has been stated). There are many different fencing products out there and many new and innovative ideas and products that can improve looks, speed of construction, how to brace corners and so forth. Someone (Paul?) mentioned using sleeves and crimpers for repair. We have been using them for years and are very pleased. We do bend the wire ends back around the sleeve to help prevent them from pulling through (when the deer hit it - with distressing frequency). There are nifty knob switches, lights and so forth for energizing/de-energizing fences and allowing you to see from the house (with a quick glance) if your fence is working or down. We have rotationally grazed the lawn, along our driveway and compartmentalized our pasture for rotational grazing with a single strand of portable wire, ONCE THE HORSES ARE TRAINED. (Training is necessary, but once it is done, it is handy!) Good luck!

[Deberosa]

I run the wire inside if trying to hold stuff mostly in. (pigs, cows, etc.) I run it outside if trying to hold stuff mostly out (keeping coyotes, etc out of chickens and turkeys). THen there is which way the flat edge of the t-posts need to go - they go toward the direction you want to put hot wire becuase I've found it very difficult to find the plastic attachments that hook effectively to the non-flat side.

Logical or not, that's what I do. ;-) Of course then I rotate the cows and pigs and chickens and the fence idea all falls apart anyhow. ;-)

[fancyfowl]

I cant imagine a straight run of more than a couple hundred yards! And flat too? How boring!

[MooseToo]

alternate = inside, outside, inside, outside .............make everyone happy -

[DM]

Usually when you get to the corner, you wind the wires around and then start a new run along the next side.

LOL.. In this area, if you ran any fence on the outside, people would think you were either nuts or a city slicker LOL

Paul

Same here...

DM

[Tod]

These are great videos about fence installation:

http://www.redbrand.com/installation/

Tod