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Deep South
12-22-2009, 03:40 PM
How can you tell if a landline has been wiretapped? Are there any signs or anyway to know?

deeker
12-22-2009, 03:45 PM
There is scanning equipment to find bugs.....look on some of the spy type sites...

Brain cramp say's I cannot think of the proper name...or the seller....sorry.

Question, has anyone been in your house w/o your approval??? Or someone you distrust??
Don't answer it here....but to yourself.....check all phone extensions and "jacks".

Kevin

Tankenator
12-22-2009, 04:29 PM
These days, there will be no real indication of any voltage drop (if its tapped by feds or above, itll be done at switching station and thus will be digital and you wont be able to see any voltage drop due to switching) If by an amateur it may be local and quite crude.....

Deep South
12-22-2009, 06:58 PM
These days, there will be no real indication of any voltage drop (if its tapped by feds or above, itll be done at switching station and thus will be digital and you wont be able to see any voltage drop due to switching) If by an amateur it may be local and quite crude.....

That is what the situation I was thinking of. So, no little soft little beeps or anything to indicate? Hmmmm...

Well, Deeker and Tankenator, I appreciate your posts.

gunsmoke
12-22-2009, 07:25 PM
Only if it is done by ab amateure from"inside" your house wiring. If it is under federal court order the tap will be at the Telephone cos exchange (switch) and you'll never be able to prove it.

FWIW I thought I saw a post where you said you are from louisiana. In Louisiana the only person who may monitor or record a telephone comminication is A PARTY TO THE CONVERSATION. A district Court judge has NO authority to authorize a wiretap, only a Federal Court Jdge based on a an affidavit of probable cause.

Anything else is strictly illegal in Louisiana including if a neighbor has an older analog corless phone and you pick them up on a scanner.

Deep South
12-22-2009, 07:49 PM
Gunsmoke,

You will notice that when I quoted Tankenator, I bolded the part of the sentence about the Feds because it is Feds I am thinking of, not another party to my phone conversations or the State.

Deep South
12-22-2009, 07:53 PM
I appreciate your input, Gunsmoke, by the way. Pretty scary stuff.

cinok
12-23-2009, 04:37 AM
Got to ask. Why do you think your is tapped?

NotSoFast
12-23-2009, 09:49 AM
If you're really concerned, get one of those Walmart prepaid cell phones. Make sure you don't send in any registration if you do that either. There are way too many ways for folks to track you nowadays.

gunsmoke
12-23-2009, 05:48 PM
A prepaid cell phone is only secure for a one-time use!

If someone is tapping you under court order they are building a list of the numbers you call. When one of those numbers is called from a pre-paid cell it is a waving flag screaming "HERE I AM!" The next time you use that phone someone will be monitoring. Disposable cell phones are just that, disposable use it once and then leave it on an outside payphone or a bus stop and let the second person who uses it to catch all the attention.

The only semi secure method is a chaep prepaid no-name calling card from a dirty sleazy convenience store used from an OUTSIDE PAYPHONE.

Almost ANY inside phone (airport bus station hotel lobby office bldg) has a camera on it, outside payphones frequented by crack dealers even outside are now increasingly under camera too. There is or used to be a web site that located outside payphines by zip.

gunsmoke
12-23-2009, 05:58 PM
http://www.payphone-project.com/cgi-bin/search/search3.pl?query=70458&stpos=0&stype=AND

Link to a search at the website just put in the zip code where you want to find a payphone.

Teg
12-23-2009, 08:06 PM
Gunsmoke,

You will notice that when I quoted Tankenator, I bolded the part of the sentence about the Feds because it is Feds I am thinking of, not another party to my phone conversations or the State.

If it's the feds you likely won't know for certain until they come to get you. Just remember to use good COMSEC, don't say anything on a phone or a PC that you wouldn't want the authorities to know about.

gunsmoke
12-24-2009, 10:09 AM
Something else you may or may not have heard of

http://www.spooftel.com/

often used by bill collectors and scammers there is even a scammer using an old now discontinued BELLSOUTH Customer Service 800 number and they tell you they are calling about the $100+ you AT&T wireless.

I first received a call several years ago and traced it to a Collection Agency in Oregon, I did what I had to do.

A year later I got a call that I traced to a collection agency in FL using the same script. The obvious problem? I've never had an AT&T cel phone in my life.

When I tracked down the ownership of the FL collection agency I found it was incorporated in GA and guess what all the officers were the same names on the Oregon domiciled Company a year earlier.

To show how stupid these people are the wife of the owner/scammer called me at home from her personal cell phone early one Saturday morning and bitched me out for making complaints against them to the FBI.

I don't know how but her cell phone number was widely distributed as a nationwide call girl service. IMAGINE THAT!

I haven't heard of them since...........................


http://www.phonegangster.com/?gclid=CKOmvfXl754CFQdiswodpU_IKQ

ANOTHER service of a similar type~GOOGLE "CALLER ID SPOOFING" or "SMS SPOOFING" to discover some amazing possibilities.

gunsmoke
12-24-2009, 10:28 AM
If it's the feds you likely won't know for certain until they come to get you. Just remember to use good COMSEC, don't say anything on a phone or a PC that you wouldn't want the authorities to know about.



MOST EXCELLENT ADVICE!

Deep South
12-24-2009, 12:04 PM
In my personal life, it is easy to control what is said over the telephone. In my professional life (my second job), it is not. That settles it...I have a solution.

daffodil
12-26-2009, 07:31 AM
I was told to listen for clicking on the line. Of course that would be an amateur. I think they can tap them from outside too so it's not always someone coming in and doing it. Also I've heard if they are in close proximity they can pick it up and tape it somehow. And if they are tapping your phone they are probably watching what you are posting on this forum too.

Radioman
01-06-2010, 01:37 PM
If some government agency wants to tap your phone they do it at the phone company and there is no way for you or anyone else to detect this. If some private "detective" did it they, (unless they know someone at the phone company who is willing to risk career and jail for them), will have to do one of two things. Hook some extra wires to the phone line where it comes to your house, or have access to your telephone. If they have some time alone with your phone it is possible to install a very small device inside that would let them listen in. This might be hard to spot unless you were familiar with what the inside of your phone should look like. Or they could bug your house. This however would only let them hear one side of any phone calls you make.

Hope this answers your question.