I gotta get me one of these..........

[hunter63]

Oh, Honey, I have a birthday comming up.........

You too can have your very own extreme long range rifle.
Check this out.

http://www.gunwerks.com/Products/Gunwerks-LR-1000-Shooting-System.aspx

Ram @765 yds
http://www.gunwerks.com/Testimonials/Videos/Dustin-Lym---Wyoming-Bighorn-Sheep-at-765-Yards.aspx

[hangfire]

Wayyyyy overpriced...

I'd take a Savage FS and deck it out any day of the week over that rifle, and keep around 4k in my pocket. Comes stock with a 30 inch extra heavy barrel.

If I had 6500 dollars to blow I'd be looking at 50 cals.

[hunter63]

Wayyyyy overpriced...

I'd take a Savage FS and deck it out any day of the week over that rifle, and keep around 4k in my pocket. Comes stock with a 30 inch extra heavy barrel.

If I had 6500 dollars to blow I'd be looking at 50 cals.

O.K. If you say so.

[Builder Ken]

Hunter that is sweet I have got on that site before and done some research on them. They match the optics to the rifle and when finished you just turn turrets to the desired yardage and squeeze it off BOT A BING dead animal. Ken

[hunter63]

Hunter that is sweet I have got on that site before and done some research on them. They match the optics to the rifle and when finished you just turn turrets to the desired yardage and squeeze it off BOT A BING dead animal. Ken

I thought it was sweet, probaly never have the bucks, but it's nice to have something to dream about.
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"Marine Sniper....You can run but you'll just die very tired!"

[Builder Ken]

Yup when the dreams are gone so are you... ya just might not know it.Ken

[dksac2]

I'm a retired Gunsmith. I started the web site www.savagegunsmithing.com (http://www.savagegunsmithing.com). When I retired, I gave the site to a gunsmith named Scott Null. He can be reached at the above web site. He will build you a custom Savage (or other brand) that will outshoot the rifle you are looking at for far less money. Scott is a true master gunsmith. There are very few masters left. He has one customer who has shot a 5 shot 15" group at 2500 yards with one of his rifles (less than MOA). Scott can build most any cartridge that will fit into a Savage action and he modifies actions to take larger cartridges then stock. He also converts right hand actions to left hand actions for you south paws. This guy really is that good. Talk with him for a little bit and if not convinced, he can provide you with many referances.
Scott is the only gunsmith that will guarentee the rifle he builds for you will shoot .3" with his handloads which he will give you the info on, the rifle also includes a new premimum barrel. You will not be able to see where the barrel ends and the muzzle brake starts. A rifle as shown with muzzle brake and other extras is approx $2500.

Best Regards, John K

[Pitdog]

Does he guarantee HE can shoot .3 or does he guarantee YOU can shoot .3?

[dksac2]

Scott test fires all custom built rifles and if they don't shoot .3" or less with his handloads, he will not ship the rifle until it does. If you can hold the rifle steady, it will be able to shoot the groups advertised. I know of no other rifle builder who will state that there rifle will shoot a stated group. Scott includes a target with the rifle. If for some reason the rifle will not shoot, he will work with you to find out the problem. This is a very honest man who takes great pride in his work. Now if you go and nick the crown or hurt the barrel by improper cleaning, that's on you. Scott builds all the left hand rifles for McMillan stocks and has rifles and shotguns in his shop that are worth over 100K. People trust him with their firearms. I was a darn good gunsmith, but Scott always amazed me with the things he would come up with. If he needs a specialized tool even for a single use, he will build the tool. He had quite a few of his own cartridges and has reamers for just about any standard, wildcat and many custom one off reamers. Scott has been gunsmithing for over 20 years. Give him a call. Look at his web site. He works on any make of model, not just Savage rifles.

Best Regards, John K

[Pitdog]

Les Baer makes accuracy guarantees of five shot groups under and inch. However, he guarantees HE can shoot those groups with that rifle, people mistake the obvious fact of most times it is the Indian and no the Arrow. I just get a little wary when I start hearing about accuracy guarantees and all that jazz. Everyone is offering that nowadays.
The company that I work for does not offer them, however I shoot amazing groups with the gun all the time, and often guns that do not shoot well and are sent back for accuracy problems are loaded with copper or not broken in- rarely is there a problem with the rifle itself.
People call up and ask me 'Pit- What can will that rifle shoot group wise?' They always hate my response, or say 'fair enough' when I reply that the rifle will shoot as good as they are capable of shooting it. Same with the custom rifles I build.
Everyone thinks it is all barrel, and the fact is you start with a good barrel and build around it, but there are a LOT of other variable out there that come into play, and so many people don't understand that, or aren't willing to pay the extra for the action work etc. If ALL the bases are covered, and bullet to twist rates are correct- then ANY decent rifle should shoot.
Optics also are a consideration, I cringe when I see people slap a Tasco or Bushnell 80$ scope on a rifle that is built well. They are only asking for problems.
Who is that is offering accuracy guarantees with factory ammo now? Sarge You know? Saw them the other day advertising.

[dksac2]

Les Baer makes accuracy guarantees of five shot groups under and inch. However, he guarantees HE can shoot those groups with that rifle, people mistake the obvious fact of most times it is the Indian and no the Arrow. I just get a little wary when I start hearing about accuracy guarantees and all that jazz. Everyone is offering that nowadays.
The company that I work for does not offer them, however I shoot amazing groups with the gun all the time, and often guns that do not shoot well and are sent back for accuracy problems are loaded with copper or not broken in- rarely is there a problem with the rifle itself.
People call up and ask me 'Pit- What can will that rifle shoot group wise?' They always hate my response, or say 'fair enough' when I reply that the rifle will shoot as good as they are capable of shooting it. Same with the custom rifles I build.
Everyone thinks it is all barrel, and the fact is you start with a good barrel and build around it, but there are a LOT of other variable out there that come into play, and so many people don't understand that, or aren't willing to pay the extra for the action work etc. If ALL the bases are covered, and bullet to twist rates are correct- then ANY decent rifle should shoot.
Optics also are a consideration, I cringe when I see people slap a Tasco or Bushnell 80$ scope on a rifle that is built well. They are only asking for problems.
Who is that is offering accuracy guarantees with factory ammo now? Sarge You know? Saw them the other day advertising.

I agree with the above. Scott shoots all his rifles and it is he that insures that the rifle will shoot .3" or less. Once it goes to the customer, it's up to them what they do with the rifle. The good thing is that you know that the rifle will shoot very small groups to start with. Just about any new bolt rifle will shoot under 1" in the right hands with good glass, but not many go easily under .5" except for the new Savage rifles. It's the attention to detail in machining, bedding etc. and a great tube that make a good shooting rifle. Working up the best loads, quality glass and mounts, proper cleaning and maint. are what the customer has to do when they receive their new weapon.

Best Regards, John K

[hunter63]

What, I don't believe it, .......What do ya mean I gotta practice?....., Man I saw it on the interweb....Just plunk down your $10k....pick the sucker up and start blasting away a stuff a 1000 yds away..... Yeah, thats the ticket.

Just joking boys, fact is most any rifle shoots better than I do, unless I'm have a good day.

It was just intresting at what can be done by a good gunsmith, and hopefully it will make it easier for the gunsmith to make some bucks, as these ads do show what can be done.

[dksac2]

For the really good precision shooter who is looking to place good shots at 800 yards and beyond, its worth spending the money for an accurized rifle. For the average guy filling his deer or elk tag, a stock Savage will fill the bill perfectly. Spend the extra money on a good scope, rings and mount. I've seen plenty of meat put on the table with an old Win 94 that looks like it has been used as a hammer and pry bar. The man (or woman) behind the rifle make the difference.

Best Regards, John K