KEL TEC PF9

[BUBSDAD]

Does anyone here have any experience with the Kel Tec PF9? I'm thinking about it as a carry peice to take to work. I work in a grocery store and need something that will not print at all in blue jeans with a tucked in shirt. If any of you have other recommendations I would be glad to hear them.

BUBSDAD

[Old_John]

Does anyone here have any experience with the Kel Tec PF9? I'm thinking about it as a carry peice to take to work. I work in a grocery store and need something that will not print at all in blue jeans with a tucked in shirt. If any of you have other recommendations I would be glad to hear them.

BUBSDAD

My DSW has one. It's her favorite CCW.
It's easy to shove in y'ur pocket, in a pocket holster.
And, it's light enough you don't know it's there.
She had a KT P11. It's a lot heavier & thicker.
P11's not bad as a CCW belt gun, under a loose shirt or jacket tho.

Me, I'd never give up my Ruger SP101, .357.

[side_job]

Does anyone here have any experience with the Kel Tec PF9? I'm thinking about it as a carry peice to take to work. I work in a grocery store and need something that will not print at all in blue jeans with a tucked in shirt. If any of you have other recommendations I would be glad to hear them.

BUBSDAD


Find one to shoot before you buy. This one is a handful, and the one I had would not feed 1 magazine full without jamming.
My recommendation for the situation you described would be the Ruger LCP or a Taurus 738 TCP. They are both about the same size, which is much smaller than the PF9. If you feel you need the 9MM over the 380, then look at the Taurus 709 Slim, it shoots MUCH better than the keltec, and has an external safety. The 709 is my CCW.
JMO.

[Old_John]

Find one to shoot before you buy. This one is a handful, and the one I had would not feed 1 magazine full without jamming.
My recommendation for the situation you described would be the Ruger LCP or a Taurus 738 TCP. They are both about the same size, which is much smaller than the PF9. If you feel you need the 9MM over the 380, then look at the Taurus 709 Slim, it shoots MUCH better than the keltec, and has an external safety. The 709 is my CCW.
JMO.

Both models, PF9 or P11 take a break-in of a hundred rounds or so.
Nope, Not good Right Out Of the Box.

Fluff & Buff makes them even better.......But after you break 'em in...
They are a good shooting, cheap, light weight 9mm polymer pistol.
You can read a lot more about them on KTOG.org the Kel Tec Owners Group.
Some people like 'em, some people don't.
Shoot......some folks don't even like Garlic, hunnh.

[Stinger]

One of life's great truisms: The most convenient pistol in the world to carry is, also, the most difficult pistol to fight with if and when the pregnant moment ever arrives.

Any number of my shooting acquaintances own Kel-Tec Pistols. Most work, some do not. All are, by nature of their design, finicky to operate and uncomfortable to use over an extended period of time. In any event the Kel-Tec pistol you're considering is strictly a close range weapon - One that will tend to perform best in the hands of someone who has learned how to keep a semiautomatic pistol up and running; someone who, almost instinctively, knows what to do in the event the pistol jams at a most inopportune moment.

I like Old John's advice! My own unarmed and lightly experienced wife just narrowly escaped a carjacking event and, after more than 30 years of refusing to do so, she finally came to me and asked for a gun. What she needed was ONE pistol that, pretty much, covered all of the bases. It had to be relatively easy-to-use, readily concealable, capable of consistently hitting a target the size of a pie plate (8 inch OD) at 16 yards, fast to load, easy to clear, and not likely to AD if it were mishandled or fumbled during a stressful event. Importantly, this pistol, also, had to be very EASY TO PRACTICE with.

After thinking about it I decided to give her a Ruger SP-101 fitted with a hammer spur and a 3 inch barrel. Long story short – This particular SP-101 has turned out to be a perfect EDC pistol for her.

Unlike so many other small carry guns she's able to comfortably practice for more than an hour at a time, and go through more than 100 rounds, without ending up with a sore hand. This one fact alone has gone a long way toward helping to turn her into a competent combat markswoman.

In my own experience, the most difficult thing about carrying any pistol is NOT necessarily knowing how to carry or shoot straight; instead, it's knowing how to respond correctly to a potentially life-threatening situation. Personally, I'm convinced that - even among those who handle pistols all of the time - there remains a very fine line between drawing too soon and drawing too late; moreover, this observation is particularly true whenever a draw begins from, 'deep cover'.

Unless you’re unusually thin or have large hips concealing an average size pistol on your beltline shouldn’t be a problem. Use a decent gun belt – a real gun belt – and wear an IWB holster. Next, give up the idea of looking like Beau Brummell and dress around the gun. (The better your clothes fit, the more that gun is going to pattern and the slower it will be to draw.)

If you have the right equipment and you’re wearing the right clothing, then, almost any pistol can be carried successfully. The real secret to successful concealed carry is NOT what gun you’re carrying or how you dress; instead it’s how you move while wearing that gun. Only a small percentage of people who carry a concealed pistol actually know how to correctly move around without, sooner or later, revealing the pistol's presence.

Using the right equipment means that you don’t have to stop, occasionally, in order to pat your side in order to make sure everything is OK. Neither will you have to tuck your gun arm into your body while moving quickly. Keeping the pistol’s butt tucked in tight to your side means that your cover garment isn’t going to hang up on it; and wearing the right belt and holster combination will prevent you from having to modify your gait in order to compensate for a loosely fitting gun. You, also, will not bang into things as you move about inside a crowded environment. (Have you ever heard a concealed pistol go, ‘Clunk!’ against the edge of a table or a door?)

With the: right equipment, right personal habits, right instincts, and proper alarm reactions you can do what I do and carry two pistols around with you, almost, everywhere you go. (One of them is quite large!) Me? I haven’t been successfully, ‘made’ in, at least, the past 4 years – not even once. ;)

WHAT ( http://762precision.wordpress.com/product-reviews/deep-concealment-iwb-holster-from-front-line/) I would use.

[dksac2]

If you like the 9mm, the Browning High Power is hard to beat. They are a little pricy, but are thin for a double stack mag and easy to carry. 14 rounds without a reload is pretty neat also. If you can't get the job done with 14 rounds, you shouldn't carry. They were also designed by the master, John Browning. A quality inside the pants holster with a belt loop hides the HP well. I don't remember if Milt Sparks makes his summer special for the high power, but if not there are seveal other manufactures that make this type of holster that will work with the HP 9.

Best regards, John K

[cornhusker]

I bought a used PF9, and early on, I had one failure to eject.
I gave it e very good cleaning and it's shot fine ever since.
The only ammo it doesn't like is some cheap steel cased Russian stuff I found (Works fine in all my other 9mms though).
As a concealed carry, it's hard to beat.
Just keep a firm grip on it and it'll shoot all day.

[DogRanger]

I had one that ran good but the take down pin kept walking out on me.I got rid of it and now use my LCP, which has always been good to go.

[flatblack]

I'm way late to this little party, but I used to have a PF9.

It's a pretty slick little pistol, but I had a lot of issues with mine after a while, and ended up trading it off for some other problem child firearms.

The extractor spring broke once, and Kel-Tec sent me a new one on the house.
After a while the roll pin holding the ejector in started to keep coming out.
A new roll pin from the hardware store helped with that.

The magazine release is just a little plastic catch inside the plastic magwell, and eventually it started to wear out and the magazine would pop out from time to time, and you'd have to pick it back up and shove it in again, if you could find it. Otherwise, it's like an easter egg hunt for 9mm handgun mags.

I don't know how many rounds went though it. A lot. I had it for a good while, since I "just had to have one" when they first came out. As I said, it was a pretty slick little pistol. It is very flat, and very lightweight.

But ultimately all that ammo beats it up pretty good. It's a carry a lot, shoot a little kind of gun. But it does carry well. I never felt undergunned with that little dude.

[Michigan Steve]

I carry a Ruger LCP in a Uncle Mike's size 1 pochet holster, with a little work there is a unused part of the holster when the stitches are cut you can carry spare magazine right in the holster.

I have my eyes on the Kahr PM9, it too can be carried in the pocket. It is a 9mm which I would like for the extra ballistics. I do carry my Ruger LCP most of the time because it is so easy to carry.

I have the Ruger LCR and it is larger and little harder to carry in the pocket, but in the right pants pocket it hides well. I just purchased the High Noon IWB holster for it see link http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Product_Line/Hidden_Ally/hidden_ally.html this is a tuckable model, I will try this holster for a while and see how it does.

[qwerty]

I have been happy with my Kel-Tec 9. During the summer months I always keep a .38 caliber revolver in my glove compartment.

[Stinger]

...... During the summer months I always keep a .38 caliber revolver in my glove compartment.

Yeah, that's where Suzanna Gratia Hupp had her carry piece on the day that George Hennard drove into Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas and shot 43 people, killing 23 of them. Mrs. Hupp's reported to have repeatedly thought of her glovebox-carried pistol while she was inside the restaurant watching her unarmed father trying to disarm Hennard - Really tragic story as well as the best reason I know NOT to waste your time carrying a pistol in the glove box.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_massacre

About that Kel-Tec: Everything I've previously stated remains the same. I continue to have no good use for any pistol that's so small you can't engage effectively with it at and inside 12 yards. Ran across this interesting comment about Kel-Tec on another gun forum the other day. Thought you might like to read it, too. Look at post #6, here:

http://www.armslocker.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46755

I had dinner last night with another NRA, 'Lifer' and RO who's very used to looking at people with guns. At the end of the evening he gave me a funny look and said, 'You're not carrying, tonight, are you.' Funny! I had a G-21 at 4:30 on my belt and a small secondary (Beretta 3032) inside my front left pocket. So, what I've previously stated about: how you learn to dress, how you learn to move, and how you learn to carry really do seem to make a difference.

One thing an EDC should never be is a, 'pacifier' - OK. ;)

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[Paddy]

It is very flat, and very lightweight.

But ultimately all that ammo beats it up pretty good. It's a carry a lot, shoot a little kind of gun. But it does carry well. I never felt undergunned with that little dude.

Flatblack's comments here sum up my own experience with the PF9 pretty nicely.

For carry, I prefer it, a Ruger SP101 in .357 magnum, a Glock 19 in 9mm, or a Glock 36 in .45 ACP. I switch them out depending on the plans for the day and the season.

The PF9 has quite a kick. It is a definite two-hand grip sort of weapon if you want quick target acquisition and reasonably rapid follow-up shots. Feeding it lots of +P ammunition would be a mistake. Stick with the typical 115 or 124 grain ball rounds for most target practice.

I have not had any parts break thus far. About the only thing I can really say as a complaint is that with my really long and thick fingers, racking the slide feels a bit odd. This resulted in a decision to keep one in the chamber inside a pocket holster during normal carry.

[cwatson]

My DH has the PF9 and he loves it. He has put hundreds of rounds through it with no issues. I find for a woman the trigger pull is EXTREMELY hard. We thought it was just his gun first but on the Kel Tec forum it seems this is common. I don't like the trigger pull but DH has no problem with it. I carry a KelTec P3AT in a PDA style holster. You can get extended mags for them so you have ten rounds. It is not a shoot accurate at 15 yards gun though it is a up close and personal gun. If I am traveling to certain areas I carry CZ-82 in 9X18. It is not lightweight but it is a nice size for a woman to conceal. I have done it for years. People often ask why a CZ-82 - well the truth is I bought it before I knew anything about guns and got lucky. I have shot more rounds than I can remember out of it and NEVER had a jam, not once. It is a good solid shoot me all day, week, month gun. That's the great thing about it, it can handle being beat up it was made for Czech police and military usage. Very easy take down which I really love. We have a Ruger SP101 also and DH likes it too some times carries that one with his PF9 but again I don't care for the trigger pull on it. It is a very accurate gun though. I really like the Ruger GP100 - not a conceal carry gun but Man it can shoot the target if you point it anywhere near where you want it to go :) I have fired, and actually used it on my DPS concealed carry instructor qualification test, and XD Sub-compact 40 cal. I really liked it. It is next on my list to purchase. It is a really great size and nice trigger pull, easy take down and I scored very well with it. The XD sub-compact is also available in 9mm. But since I have a 9mm I want the 40.

[J R Adams]

The Kel Tec PF9 is a double action only pistol with an auto safety that retracts when the trigger is pulled. It's easy to shoot but hang on tight because there is no weight to help with the recoil.

There are a couple of accessaries for the Kel Tec that may be helpfull to you. There is a plastic sleeve and add on clip that will allow carring in a front pocket with decent access. The clip on is designed to mount on the right side of the pistol but can be easily modified to mount on the left side.

I have modified mine to fit the left and carry clipped over the belt outside the trousers on the right side with the shirt hanging over it.

J R

[offgridbob]

I still like my walther P22 auto, Flat and light and fast. I've shot over 3000 rounds in it and not one jamb

[Teg]

I still like my walther P22 auto, Flat and light and fast. I've shot over 3000 rounds in it and not one jamb

I bought one of those for the wife, spiffy little gun, even shoots the cheapo Armscor ammo reliably. :)

[MrGreenJeans]

In spite of all the negitiaves i have one on my side right now and i,am very happy with it. No problems so far if i have any i,ll chime in.

[stickbowhntr]

Stinger- thanks for that link - I tried to Pm but dont see how ...anyway great link thanks and I love all the info on this here. I am trying to make some choices for Conceled [?.380 - 9mm???]as bedside and truck complete different situations [45acp].

[9er]

My father has one. I shot it and think it is a nice gun for the $. My only complaint is the long tigger pull.

But as I just stated in a previous thread, I would buy a PF9 before a Kahr or the Ruger SR9c. The Taurus 9mm Slim is pretty nice too but I think the PF9 feels better in my hand and swear it is a bit lighter. And budget wise it cannot be beat.