Indiana?

[denham]

Any homesteaders in Indiana? Wondering where the good homesteads in this state are. I'm nowhere near being able to get some land (and have serious doubts about my ability to handle it if I did) but I do like to dream. Maybe one day.

[ryanmercer]

I'm in Indiana... but you can't call me a Homesteader... I'm in Speedway living with my mom heh.

You might be surprised on the land though...

Keep an eye on http://www.landandfarm.com/lf/
http://landflip.com/
http://landsofamerica.com/america/
http://www.landwatch.com/
and
http://unitedcountry.com/

I've been shocked out how cheap I;ve seen some stuff lately.

[bill_in_in]

I find the prices listed in the links below to be a little high. You can find quite a bit of land in the mixed tillable category for $2,000 an acre in less populated areas.

[denham]

Thanks for the links ryan. I am in Indy myself so we are neighbors. I am moving to a house in Lebanon next month (hopefully) which is on a quarter acre. At least it's a step in the right direction. I have fun looking for land even if I know it is several years away.

Oh and Bill I am wondering where you have seen that price in land!

[ryanmercer]

I find the prices listed in the links below to be a little high. You can find quite a bit of land in the mixed tillable category for $2,000 an acre in less populated areas.

Not in Indiana... and if you have seen something here in Indiana at that price... then there is something seriously wrong with it.

[bill_in_in]

Methinks that the difficulty is in the quantity. If you are buying mixed tillable land in the country in parcels that are larger than 20-40 acres and paying more than $2,000 an acre, you're paying a whole lot more than it's going for around here. If you're talking about 5 acres in megianapolis or some other suburb then I understand.

[SpoonBread]

Not in Indiana... and if you have seen something here in Indiana at that price... then there is something seriously wrong with it.


If you Look in Southern Indiana, there is defiantly some cheap land out there good for homesteading. We're in Ky, but I've got family in S.Indiana and we have discussed moving back there. In fact I was at an auction up there this past weekend and 29 GOOD acres went for about $2,500 an ac. Little too close to people for my taste though. If you get out there, you can find it. Unfortunately alot of the real estate people who have it haven't caught on to this whole internet thing.
Some areas we've looked:
Perry County
Orange County
Harrison County (lil pricier)
Washington County
Jackson County

Northern Indiana & Southern Indiana are like two different states.

[denham]

I did see some land on mibor.com which was down in one of those counties. It had a pond and was about $3k an acre if I remember right. It was more along the lines of 15 acres though which is too big for me.

[lastrada]

I live in southern Indiana, and right now I am currently looking for land. The prices I have been seeing average $3-4k an acre, depending on location and size. It also depends on what your looking for, wooded, pasture or tilled land all have different affects on the price.

[ryanmercer]

If you Look in Southern Indiana, there is defiantly some cheap land out there good for homesteading. We're in Ky, but I've got family in S.Indiana and we have discussed moving back there. In fact I was at an auction up there this past weekend and 29 GOOD acres went for about $2,500 an ac. Little too close to people for my taste though. If you get out there, you can find it. Unfortunately alot of the real estate people who have it haven't caught on to this whole internet thing.
Some areas we've looked:
Perry County
Orange County
Harrison County (lil pricier)
Washington County
Jackson County

Northern Indiana & Southern Indiana are like two different states.

Eh, southern Indiana's coal mines bother me.

[bill_in_in]

If yo buy land that has the mineral rights you needn't worry about future activity. I don't know of any areas that don't have sub-surface maps of previous activity.

Coal mining is in a fairly sedate mode lately, was a movement to do a shaft around here but it didn't fly- too many NIMBY people....

[denham]

Here's 5 acres that looks like it may have some potential. Hard to say at $25k.

http://landsofindiana.com/indiana/index.cfm?Detail=&INV_ID=133774

Then I see 500+acres in Canada for $160k and wondering why I want to stay in Indiana...

http://www.eaglestar.net/ped.html

[SpoonBread]

Eh, southern Indiana's coal mines bother me.



In a combined 18yrs of living there I never once heard about coal mining in Southern IN?? Let alone it being a problem. What parts exactly are you referring to? ???

[WileyCoyote]

Holy Cow, spoonbread... I'm confused how you couldn't know about that. My family was from Terre Haute, and my grandfather and six uncles all worked the mines around there - once they were all trapped in a cave-in and Uncle John didn't come out. That whole area, including parts of KY, were mines. Either the Irish were cops in Chicago, or they migrated to the coal mines of IN and KY. You never know what's under that grassy little hill... it could be a mine entrance!

[Bruenor]

I live in the Pendleton area (just north of Indianapolis), but only have 0.5 acres in a neighborhood. Not a homestead by any stretch, but enough for a garden out back.

I've seen signs for about 20 acres plus a a house in the area, but I can't remember how much its listed for.

[bill_in_in]

I'm curious where in this country one would go and not find a coal mine. It's a little rarer in the north country, but it's there. I haven't heard of any in Florida but I wouldn't bet against it.

[rAcErRicK]

Well, I've been here for nearly 70 years and been over most of it; haven't seen one yet.

[onelook]

My dad was from Sullivan (S of Terre Haute) and both he and his father were coal miners. Big mines in that area. As well as oil fields. Also most of Illinois has mining. Both strip mines and and underground mines. Some coal seams are just under the ground, and folks would dig into the side of a bank to get at it. LOTS of those types of 'mines' around. Be VERY careful around them, they can cave in and you didn't even know they were there.

[SpoonBread]

Holy Cow, spoonbread... I'm confused how you couldn't know about that. *My family was from Terre Haute, and my grandfather and six uncles all worked the mines around there - once they were all trapped in a cave-in and Uncle John didn't come out.!

I'm really sorry to hear about that.
I guess I should clarify myself though. When I think of southern IN I don't think of Terra Haute. I've never been north of Indy that I can recon, so I always sort of think of it as north. :-[ I'm fully aware of the mines in Ky and and When I lived in the mountains of CO they were every where. at least 3 old mine entrances within a mile of my house! As someone stated, if you have the mineral rights and do due diligence looking into the land it shouldn't be anything to worry too much about.
Again like I said where I grew up in Indiana (Washington County) if you digged too far you'd just hit limestone or water. Though there was a limestone quarry right next to my parents property. :)

[ryanmercer]

In a combined 18yrs of living there I never once heard about coal mining in Southern IN?? Let alone it being a problem. What parts exactly are you referring to? ???


http://www.ilovemountains.org/myconnection/
Freelandville Mine in Sullivan, IN.
Gibson Mine in Rockville, IN
Switz City in Lamar, IN

Those are just a few... something like a dozen and a half counties have active coal mines in Indiana. Coal has been mined here in Indiana for roughly 150 years.

[bookwormom]

??? mines in Indiana, never noticed one. Not in Franklin County. I love Indiana. My kids were born in Indiana. 2500 is not bad if it is good land, certainly a better bargain than 1600 for hilly scrub . (quantity or quality).We have relatives in Indiana, husband's cousin was the Marshall for years. Southern Indiana to me means in proximity to the Ohio River.

[SpoonBread]

??? mines in Indiana, never noticed one. *Southern Indiana to me means in proximity to the Ohio River. *


Same here Bookworm.

[denham]

So can someone explain to me what is the concern with a mine on your land? As long as you have mineral rights what is so bad about it?

I can't imagine a mine would be much worse than the 5 HUGE trees in my backyard which make mowing and digging a garden unbelievably difficult... :P

[bill_in_in]

Let me give it a shot- Most people don't own the mineral rights, at least around here, and I imagine that most areas with minerals may be the same. If you don't own the rights then you get nothing but damages and they are hard to prove form the mining. Of course that is if it is a shaft mine- surface mines are a bit different and the land owner can control what happens on the land.

Some of the problems that can occur is subsidence (settling after the mineral is removed), noise, losing use of a well because of dry-up or contamination, dust, shaking, increased traffic, loss of scenery, etc.

I happen to own the rights to all of my ground and don't intend to part with them.

[StephiLou]

Don't forget fires. Our buddy has 10 acres over an established coal mine that caught fire about 6 months after he closed on the property. That was 2 years ago and it has been burning ever since. :-/

I don't live in IN, but we are in IL literally 2 miles from the border. DH grew up in Cayuga/Kingmon area. Most of our horses are leased out to Amish in the Odin area (south of Brazil).

There isn't any land going over here for any less than $3000 to 4000/acre.....that's farmland, no wells or anything.

Steph

[Saoirse]

I am in NW Indiana on 3 1/2 acres. We wanted more land, but the location and the home work well for us. The price was reasonable. The area is building up due to it's proximity to Chicago and Gary, but it is still somewhat rural. I had my doubts at first, but it is working out just fine.

[ryanmercer]

Anyone seen any good prices the past few months? I've been seeing 3-4k an acre.

[justgettinby]

Ryan,
Nothing to write home about. The normal 2-4 for scrub ground and 4-6 for good tillable. Then theirs the 6-10 for somebody who has money burning a whole in their pocket.

[ryanmercer]

:(

[SkooliesRock]

I live in the Pendleton area (just north of Indianapolis) *

I had a Heating & AC business in Pendleton since the mid-80's....maybe we've met??

I honestly would absolutely never encourage anyone to move to this state, seriously. This is one of the most crooked states I've ever seen. I've had 5 years of my life taken from me by this state, and they aren't finished yet.

Ask the folks in Marion County who were "promised" they weren't going to be paying for the new sportsdome via their tax-dollars. Well, construction starts, and guess what?? Property taxes go up, some 300% * :o

Seriously....pick ANY state other than Indiana. The happiest day of my life will be when the wheels on the bus go round & round.....across the state line, ANY state line, as long as it's out of here.......

Rant-off *:-/
Edit: Oh, and was aware of the mines in the southern part of the state. ;)

[ryanmercer]

I had a Heating & AC business in Pendleton since the mid-80's....maybe we've met??

I honestly would absolutely never encourage anyone to move to this state, seriously. This is one of the most crooked states I've ever seen. I've had 5 years of my life taken from me by this state, and they aren't finished yet.

Ask the folks in Marion County who were "promised" they weren't going to be paying for the new sportsdome via their tax-dollars. Well, construction starts, and guess what?? Property taxes go up, some 300% * :o

Seriously....pick ANY state other than Indiana. The happiest day of my life will be when the wheels on the bus go round & round.....across the state line, ANY state line, as long as it's out of here.......

Rant-off *:-/
Edit: Oh, and was aware of the mines in the southern part of the state. *;)

We have some of the best gun laws in the country... unless they change for the worse, I'm here to stay.

[armyman]

I am from Southwest, Indiana (Martin County). I bought my 40 acres 13 years ago, 9 in pasture the rest woods for $200 an acre! There is all kinds of places for sell here at $1,000 an acre. Any where from 1 acre tracts up to 200 acres. I live 15 miles from the closest town.

[SkooliesRock]

Ryan- They're no better or worse than the majority of the rest of the states. And most states have reciprical (sp?) CCW laws, meaning if I have an Indiana Permit to carry, and Indiana allows an Ohio resident with a Permit to carry here, then I'm allowed to carry in Ohio.

I'm just soured on this state, and I hope you or anyone else is never put into the situation I have been. If they were, they'd probably feel similar to the way I do.

[ryanmercer]

Ryan- They're no better or worse than the majority of the rest of the states. And most states have reciprical (sp?) CCW laws, meaning if I have an Indiana Permit to carry, and Indiana allows an Ohio resident with a Permit to carry here, then I'm allowed to carry in Ohio.

I'm just soured on this state, and I hope you or anyone else is never put into the situation I have been. If they were, they'd probably feel similar to the way I do.

Yes, but who cares about Indiana's reciprocity... I have both UT and FL non-resident permits... I can carry in all but a handful of states.

[SkooliesRock]

lol.....so can I, with my Indiana permit. ;)

[ryanmercer]

lol.....so can I, with my Indiana permit. *;)

You can carry in about half the states with just an Indiana permit...

But really, go poke around http://www.carryconcealed.net/ go to some states at random, find their legislature and go read it... we've got it pretty good here. When I drove to Florida end of June... I couldn't even take my carry ammo... because Teflon ammunition was illegal in 2 of the states I drove through... as were some of my mags.

[SkooliesRock]

Yep, it's exactly 1/2 matter of fact ;) I can't travel so it doesn't matter much to me. However I think a permit should be good nationwide.

[ryanmercer]

Yep, it's exactly 1/2 matter of fact *;) I can't travel so it doesn't matter much to me. However I think a permit should be good nationwide.

You have poor thinking...

I think a permit should not be required, as they are unconstitutional :)

[MYellowRose]

* I must admit I've only been in IN twice, once when I went to my son's wedding in Huntington in August of 2000. The other time when I went to Indanapolis in August of 2004 to see his daughter in Riley Children's Hospital. *I honestly didn't realize there were coal mines there.

[SkooliesRock]

You have poor thinking...

I think a permit should not be required, as they are unconstitutional :)

My bad,,,,you're right. Every crackhead & felon should be allowed to carry a weapon ::)

Forgive MY poor thinking......

[SkooliesRock]

Southern Indiana Coalmines:

http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=gmail&q=southern+indiana+coal+mine +pics&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title

[ryanmercer]

My bad,,,,you're right. Every crackhead & felon should be allowed to carry a weapon *::)

Forgive MY poor thinking......

Well with your thinking... freedom of speech isn't for everyone, it's only for people with permits, same with religion, you need a permit for your right to life and liberty, a permit for private property, a permit for a speedy trial, a permit for a trial by a jury of your peers, a permit to be proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt... If you make them require permits for one thing... then you are supporting them in requiring them for everything..

Oh and I've got news for you, gun laws ONLY prevent innocent people from obtaining firearms... crack heads and felons already have weapons, if gun laws prevented them from getting them... there would be no repeat offenders for things such as armed robbery.

[SkooliesRock]

You can sure inject a lot of BS into your posts, I can only imagine how well those "skills" will be once honed once you grow-up. Some of you really go the extra mile for the sake of arguing. Considering the FACT the I own guns, as well as the fact that I've held a CCW permit longer than you've been alive, you're mere hint of trying to claim that I basically have no concern for gun rights is purely moronic.

[ryanmercer]

You can sure inject a lot of BS into your posts, I can only imagine how well those "skills" will be once honed once you grow-up. Some of you really go the extra mile for the sake of arguing. * Considering the FACT the I own guns, as well as the fact that I've held a CCW permit longer than you've been alive, you're mere hint of trying to claim that I basically have no concern for gun rights is purely moronic.

Head over to http://ingunowners.com people that have had their CCW longer than YOU have been alive have the same mentality as me.

[SkooliesRock]

I don't need you telling me what I need to do and go, I'll go where I choose, are you trying to remove my freedom? You visit a site, even recommend it to others.....yet disagree with the mentality of theose on it? *

.....according to your mentality, we might as well legalize murder, after-all...."it only protects the innocent", might as well throw-in rape, robbery, car-jacking...right?

Lets make it legal for the tweakers to make all the meth they want, OK? After-all, they're going to anyway, only the law-abiding tweakers don't have a meth-lab in their home.

At what age would YOU hand a gun to someone.....at birth? After-all.......it's their right isn't it. How about 5? 12? Pack one with their lunch? What age?

I guess when a felon gets his walking papers he should be able to go straight to the gun shop & purchase a gun, at least according to you. Maybe he'll be a murderer or child molester, and he'll move-in next door to your family! Maybe the state will release a dilusional mental patient who hears voices & see's things....maybe his dog will tell him to go to the local pawnshop , set a gun, and go kill someone, maybe that someone will be someone you know.

While we're at it, lets drop the requirement for drivers licenses, after all....we don't need any stinking requirements or education to drive a 2 ton missile. Only the "honest people" bother getting a license....the "badguys" don't, so might as well make it the same for everyone.....right?

None of that sounds right? Then who decides.....YOU? You sure act like you''re judge, jury, and hangman. Get a grip! And before you go running your mouth again, take a look at your sigs.....sounds to me like you're a hypocrite *::)


"Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" (Exodus 20)

I'm also sure there's alot of more verses in your bible about back-biters, sharp-tongues, and gossipers....I'll be glad to provide them for you if you like. You may want to consider the Christian example you're setting for others, or remove the sig since you obviously can't follow your own beliefs........... ::)

LMAO!! I just saw your other link, the one where you're asking others for money to pay your way through college ::)

I'd like a new shiny car, anyone want to "donate" to my new shiny car fund? If given enough, I'll buy a nice hybrid, so I'll be doing my part for the US........

[denham]

http://www.farmers-exchange.net/detailPage.aspx?articleID=6094

Farmland value and cash rents for the Hoosier state have increased sharply, said a Purdue University agriculture economist...

the value for top-quality farmland is $5,003 an acre, average-quality farmland is $4,240 an acre and poor-quality farmland is $3,408 an acre.

Ethanol.

[ryanmercer]

http://www.farmers-exchange.net/detailPage.aspx?articleID=6094


Ethanol.

Yup... thank Mitch Daniels for that... all the Ethanol plants he's opening.

[dkemple1]

I live in southern Indiana, and it is very pretty down here with all the rolling hills and forest land. I live in Lawrence County, not too far from Kentucky. I am about 65 miles or so from there. In northern Indiana it is awful flat. I like the hills. There are several coal mines around the state, but personally it is no big deal to me. The nearest one to me is about 40 miles or so. Land is reasonable down here, at least for the time being. Sometimes you can get some real good deals. I have lived here for 43 years, and I don't really have any complaints, other than where I am at, there is not a whole lot of good paying jobs, but I suspect that is the case most everywhere nowadays.

[Fred_47460]

Indiana is OK....I've lived there pretty much my whole life (48 years). I've never even heard of coal mines being a problem. The dirt is good in most areas of Indiana. Population density is my big complaint though. If you're IN Indiana and you can't afford to leave....you "can" do a pretty good job of homesteading. If you look at "people" as being a large potential threat...as I do...then you might want to choose a locale WEST of Indiana.

Fred