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BackyardHerbals
05-24-2010, 07:25 PM
I have this older pressure canner that I'd like to put into service but it's different from anything I've ever used before. Does anybody have one like this and know their way around it? All the parts are there. I don't know how old it is but the handles are wood not bakelite. :)

http://i47.tinypic.com/2q1v1fm.jpg

TEX
05-24-2010, 07:56 PM
Do you know the manufacturer?

BackyardHerbals
05-24-2010, 08:04 PM
Yes, it says Montgomery Ward Windsor "A" 12

CanNerd
05-24-2010, 09:01 PM
The canner should work fine, but only if you have the gauge tested for accuracy and proves to be accurate. The canner should not be used for food until that has occurred.

BackyardHerbals
05-24-2010, 09:08 PM
Oh, yes, absolutely. I will replace the gauge before I do anything with it! It's the metal thingys (a petcock, I believe one to be) that I don't know how to use. :confused:

CanNerd
05-24-2010, 09:20 PM
You might want to contact Presto® (http://www.gopresto.com/). It may actually be one of their early models sold through Montgomery Ward. I also came across the following link that might prove to be a useful contact for information on your canner.

http://www.cookingandcanning.net/mowaprcopa.html

What would be great is if their is a conversion available to a 'rocker' gauge so you didn't have to rely on the dial gauge anymore.

You could probably put a couple inches of water in it, latch it down, and heat it up a little to see how the parts react to familiarize yourself.

tufhelp
05-24-2010, 09:36 PM
Here is a brief bit of information about the MW Windsor, note the remark about lining up a mark on the top so your always get the same seal...

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-windsor-aeoeaae-12-pressure-cooker-montg

BackyardHerbals
05-24-2010, 11:01 PM
CanNerd, I actually called them before I posted here. All the gal could tell me was "wow, that's a really old canner" about 4 times and offer to sell me something that would replace the petcock but she couldn't tell me what the other metal piece was or if it should/could be replaced. I was less than impressed. :(

Mad_Professor
05-25-2010, 12:46 AM
CanNerd, I actually called them before I posted here. All the gal could tell me was "wow, that's a really old canner" about 4 times and offer to sell me something that would replace the petcock but she couldn't tell me what the other metal piece was or if it should/could be replaced. I was less than impressed. :(

Fit a piss off pressue gauge ( wistlerer), simple reliable and easy to do. Then you have 5. 10 , and 15 " of pressure.

NCLee
05-25-2010, 07:52 AM
What's the model number of your canner, BackyardHerbals?

Lee

CanNerd
05-25-2010, 12:12 PM
CanNerd, I actually called them before I posted here. All the gal could tell me was "wow, that's a really old canner" about 4 times and offer to sell me something that would replace the petcock but she couldn't tell me what the other metal piece was or if it should/could be replaced. I was less than impressed. :(
I'm sorry to hear that. Rudeness seems to be a sign of the times no matter where you are. Was that the Presto company or the other parts company?

The other extension on the canner might be a safety valve of some kind.

Anon001
05-25-2010, 02:50 PM
Actually, it looks more like the All American type canner by the way the lid attaches, the arrow to line up,.....etc. Is it possible that All-American mad them for Wards at one time?

It also looks to me like it is a "gasketless" canner. If that's the case, make certain that there are no chips, deep scratches in the area where the lid and body meet. That is imperative for a good seal. When not in use, rub a very light coating of petroleum jelly on both the body and lid, where the two meet and store it with the lid upside down on the canner body. If you store it with the lid upright, put some paper of plastic between the lid and body. The most important thing is to protect the lips where the body and the lid meet. The gage is secondary. Without a good seal, the gage is no use anyway. lol

Paul

TEX
05-25-2010, 03:32 PM
It sure does look like an All American and in fact they did manufacturer for Montgomery Ward.

Here's a link about an older one. Still looking for more information

http://gdpifer1.blogspot.com/2010/02/all-american-pressure-canner.html

BackyardHerbals
05-25-2010, 07:03 PM
PaulNKS, it is gasketless and the metal edges are pristine. Someone took very good care of it! :)

CanNerd, it was the cooking and canning place that I called. They were supposed to call me back, never did. :mad:

NCLee, there is no other number or anything except the "Windsor A" and a 12 below it. :confused:

TEX, thanks for the link. I wonder if it isn't an All American (were they the only ones to make a gasketless canner?), a good deal as I could never have afforded a new one! :)

Anon001
05-26-2010, 12:45 PM
TEX, thanks for the link. I wonder if it isn't an All American (were they the only ones to make a gasketless canner?), a good deal as I could never have afforded a new one! :)

I'm not TEX lol.. but, the only gasketless canners I've ever seen are All American. There maybe others, but I've never seen one.

If it is an All American, you can't top it. I think All American is the cadillac of canners. Several of us on this forum have them.

Paul

pcrowder
05-26-2010, 11:28 PM
If it's an All American, you should be able to contact them via email as they are still in business, and maybe they can look through their archives and give you some info. Good luck, and congrats on the great find!

NCLee
05-27-2010, 08:36 AM
A seller on ebay has a couple of Montgomery Wards pressure canner manuals. Here's one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120573652651&ih=002&category=20672&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1 and this link shows both of them http://www.byzantina.com/montgomery-wards-canner-523416-1ax.html

You may want to email the seller to see if this manual is for your canner. That'll help you figure out what all the parts are and give guidance on what would need replacement.

Hope this helps, a bit.
Lee

Anon001
05-27-2010, 12:03 PM
Here's the link to All American Canners (http://www.allamericancanner.com/index.htm).

They also have replacement parts. You can most likely replace the gage and get a rocker weight that is 5, 10 , and 15 pounds.

If you have trouble, they list a toll free number on the top right of the page.

Paul

BackyardHerbals
05-28-2010, 07:28 PM
Paul & Lee, I want to thank you guys again! :) I bid on the manual on eBay and want to retrofit my canner into a rocker.

LilLexieLou
05-16-2014, 02:52 PM
Hi! I know this post is several years old, but I recently came across this same pressure cooker. Were you able to find out more about how to use it properly and what accessories are supposed to come with it? I was hoping that I could use to can and process meats, but it looks too small. Everyone is telling me not to use it whatsoever, because it apparently doesn't have any safety features. I say you just need common sense.
Did you get any use from it?

Wyobuckaroo
05-16-2014, 04:33 PM
Neat equipment....
I have no experience with pressure cookers.... But have worked with a fair amount of industrial steam used for power as well as heat....

If I were to have run across a cooker like that.....
Test the capacity by filling it with a known device... Like a 2 quart measuring bowl.... And that way you will have an accurate capacity base line to work with...

I would also have the existing pressure gauge tested... No need to replace as long as it is clean and not full of any crud...

And most importantly will the gauge repeat consistently..... For instance.... If you test it at 5 lb and back to 0 lb for 6 times, does the gauge match the test gauge each and every cycle... Then 10 and 15 lb.... If it is consistant... It should be OK until something changes.... I have used 100 year old steam gauges that still passed a quality check..

Then I would take it to the side burner on my gas grill outside, and test it with just water in it... Does the gauge pressure match the jiggler markings.... Etc...

If there is a pet cock, or valve of one kind or another on the lid, I suspect it is to "vent" air from the cooker as it comes up to pressure..... And to vent the cooker to 0 pressure to ease opening after it has cooled... That will take a little practice in using....

Take care.... Enjoy...

HuntingHawk
05-17-2014, 06:18 AM
It is set up as a pressure cooker. You can order the replacement & weight to turn it into a pressure canner.
You can also replace the wingnuts with bakelite handles.

http://www.allamericancanner.com/allamericanpressurecannerparts.htm

HuntingHawk
05-17-2014, 08:03 AM
If you order the 4th & 5th parts down on the above link you can then have a pressure canner. But why not why you are at spend $20 & replace the gauge?

HuntingHawk
05-17-2014, 08:31 AM
Here is one I have that is similar to yours but 18.5 quart.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/stickypost/canner1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/stickypost/canner1.jpg)

Pic taken as I received it & before converting from pressure cooker to canner.

BackyardHerbals
08-05-2014, 10:38 PM
I never did replace anything on this canner. I use it to waterbath small batches of pints & half pints, I have a bigger pressure canner that I use exclusively for my low acid stuff. I'm sorry that I'm not more help, I just decided that the expense wasn't worth it to retrofit this.

HuntingHawk
08-06-2014, 12:30 AM
Would $50 buy it from you then?