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SkooliesRock
08-12-2008, 12:17 PM
My username relates to my intention of buying a used school bus, and converting it into full-time living quarters (referred to as a "Skoolie"). Here's my plan:

Drivers (F to R) side will be a small table (24" deep) and 1 forward looking bench (storage underneath). Behind that, a floor to ceiling pantry for food storage. The woodstove will set on a raised platform, and the platform will have a loading door on the outside as firewood will be stored under the platform. There will also be a door inside of course to allow access to the wood. I'm going to add a waterheater onto the same platform, and it will connect to the woodstove, as well as to a solar panel. I made the platform large, to allow for clearance from the stove, as well as a fair amount of wood storage. Behind the stove will be the stool, haven't decided 100% sure if it will be one connected to a tank, or simply a self-contained camping model. I'm unsure about the location of the rear axle, but know I'm in the general area with the stool. Behind the stool is a floor to ceiling wardrobe with the upper being a closet (for hanging clothes) and the lower being drawers.

Across the isle will be the bed, under it will be a good-size (100gal?) freshwater tank & 12VDC pump. May possibly house other mechanicals here as well, like electrical. If there's any room left, then it'll be made into additional storage space. In front of the bed will be a 30"X30" showerstall, ahead of the shower a cabinet/countertop with sink, then the 'fridge, LP stove, and more cabinet/counterspace.

There will also be overhead storage throughout the bus, and I may incorporate a built-in hidden gun safe for weapon & valuables storage. I've decided to go for the roof raise (only about 12"), which will allow more headroom (I'm 6'2") and room for insulation, as well as overhead wiring & lights. I won't need much in the way of electrical, 3-4 lights, and will add a couple 110V plugs since I have a generator. I will have a battery bank & solar panels, and possibly a wind generator.

On the back is a 4' deck which will hold LP tanks & generator (under fabricated housings). The top (roof) will be decked for adjustable solar panel mounts, tilt-up wind generator, and an additional freshwater storage tank with outside shower & spigot, as well as a transfer connection that I can fill the lower tank from the upper if needed. I'll probably fool around with a solar to air panel for supplemental heat on the milder days. I will probably buy a scooter & mount it on the front (unless it'll fit on the rear deck), to use as a grocery getter, or transportation in the event of breakdown. Also intend to have internet so will probably be adding a dish for that on the roof.

Floors will be 3/4" polystyrene & 3/4" plywood. Walls will be firred, polystyrene insulated, and covered (unsure at this point with what), so it shouldn't take much to heat. I hate A/C (lol even after working with it for over 30 years) and won't be adding it.

Keep in mind I'll be 100% full-timing, and living alone so the lay-out is designed for 1 person, and I'm not concerned about having to "work around" another. Also, because of some health issues, I don't think I'll have much (if any) underbelly storage. I might, just for items rarely used, or perhaps for spare fuel, tools, or such items.

I haven't sized & "nailed-down" the solar, wind gen, and battery bank yet, as I have plenty of time to research what willl be required in that area. I'm still in the planning-phase of the entire project. My intent is to be able to remain self-sufficient for (2-3) weeks at a time.


http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc234/Indianasmiththr/Junk/CopyofFloorplan.jpg

Quietgentleman
08-12-2008, 12:27 PM
Here a bunch of pics of a skoolie build I like.

http://www.skoolie.net/gallery/v/Skoolies/reprobate/

QGM

SkooliesRock
08-12-2008, 12:38 PM
I happen to be a member of the site ;) There are some nice conversions there for sure, some simply amazing! Not to mention a pretty good group.

rAcErRicK
08-12-2008, 01:04 PM
Man, that was nice QG. OK Skoolie, when you going to get it goin'. I wonder how much that thing weighed on the site. You got any idea Skoolie ? Are the tires and suspension able to handle it without modification ? Really nice.

SkooliesRock
08-12-2008, 03:11 PM
I've still got about a year to wait RR, but in the meantime I'll have the chance to read-up on the wind & solar side of things. I'll keep mulling things over as well on the floorplan, just to see if there's anything I want/need to reconfigure. I guess one advantage to the wait will be to see if any significant progress is made regarding power generation.

I've yet to see anyone required to modify the suspension system, and if you think about it 70 kids at say 100 pounds each is 3.5 tons. I don't have any idea what construction materials & my belongings will weigh, but I wouldn't think it'd be excessive. I've even seen some buses which are modified to haul race cars, dirt bikes, ATV & such, and still use the front half as living space. One guy even installed a hot tub in his bus.

OzarkMtnDaredevil
08-12-2008, 03:51 PM
I once knew a bass player who had a rig like that that he took when the band played out of town. Your idea, though, makes his bus look like a $15 hotel room. That's awesome, Skoolie!

countrygirl0671
08-12-2008, 04:01 PM
I really like this idea.

I get so inspired by other people's ideas.

I once was inside such a bus. It was awesome! The old man who owned it really did a great job.

Your looks like it will be great.

SkooliesRock
08-12-2008, 04:11 PM
Thanks! If I were just using it as an RV now & then, I could get by with less, but I basically need a cabin on wheels, Most motorhomes aren't constructed as strong as I'd like, which is why I'd chose a bus.

I'd like to be able to travel some, and probably will, atleast to the surrounding states. Might even dip south some in the winters to avoid and problems with freeze-up as well as lightening the need for heat.

Much of it will just be a "wait & see" process, at least at this point in time.

SkooliesRock
08-12-2008, 04:19 PM
I actually have some experience with Skoolies, I grew-up spending nearly every summer weekend in one. My parents enjoyed camping & fishing, usually with a group of their friends. Been to DC, Florida, and several other states in one as well.

Dad converted 2 different buses, the latter being larger seeing as how there were 5 kids. I'm far right, one brother far left....can't recall the 2 others in the middle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/223smitty/Dads1stSchoolie.jpg

If anyone has the interest, read the book or watch the movie "Into the Wild", about Chris McCandless. I'd read the book as well as watched the movie, and enjoyed them both. Interesting story with a sad ending. The movie was directed by Sean Penn. It involves an old mining camp bus in Alaska.

DavidOH
08-16-2008, 08:10 PM
What a great project. Close to what I had in mind. *;D

If you haven't looked at wood stoves yet, these are great:
http://www.marinestove.com/

This from Mother E News:
"Our water-heating attachment consists simply of about 50 feet of 1/4" copper tubing coiled into a plaster of paris-filled panel."
http://i38.tinypic.com/23llf1u.jpg

QueenoftheFlock
08-16-2008, 10:17 PM
If anyone has the interest, read the book or watch the movie "Into the Wild", about Chris McCandless. I'd read the book as well as watched the movie, and enjoyed them both. Interesting story with a sad ending. The movie was directed by Sean Penn. It involves an old mining camp bus in Alaska.


I am just sitting here with my mouth open in awe at this. The very first thing I thought was "if the Into the Wild kid had had a bus like this, things might have turned out completely different!" Thanks for opening my mind to something I never heard of or thought of. Amazing!!

SkooliesRock
08-16-2008, 11:00 PM
Hi David, I actually plan to build my own stove. That way I'm not stuck with too large a stove, or paying more for a smaller version. Also it will see multi-function use, and I plan to add water heater, cooktop space, as well as an oven. Of course it will only see use in the winter, but I plan to learn how to make efficient use of the sun for the same uses in the milder months.

It's been a while since I've been on the ME site, used to check-in there regularly just to see what was "new". Thanks for the link, it'll give me an excuse to go look around, lol.

QotF, hello as well. I don't think having a similar bus would have helped Chris. From the way the story went, he just made a mistake....one that sounded like an easy mistake to make, sadly it cost him his life.

I've heard some speak of him & call him an "idiot" for the way he chose to live, and the fact that he perished by his own mistake.....yet from those same people, I'd never read any of their experiences of spending months in the wilderness, alone, and surviving. Chris was "different" & a free-spirit, I think that's what caught my interest when I ran across his story. lol, not alot different than I was at his age, and I suppose I could have easily met the same fate.

But, his story has nothing to do with my desires, as I've had this plan since long before I'd read Chris' story. Were my health better, I'd forget the bus, pack some supplies on my back, and head for Alaska myself. Always wanted to go there, just to look around, but....don't think it'll ever happen. I'll be more than content with a bus, and a nice secluded spot to park next to a clean river or lake.

lol, I had the thought the other day, people use the term "BOB" for bug-out-bag, well I 'll have a "BOB".....a bug-out-bus *;D

Deberosa
08-17-2008, 01:09 PM
Skoolie,

I just received an e-mail today with this pictures and thought of you. There must be more room in a bus than this garbage truck but it's amazing what all they got into it!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/deberosa/pic7.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/deberosa/pic5.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/deberosa/pic4.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b340/deberosa/pic11.jpg

SkooliesRock
08-17-2008, 08:15 PM
That's pretty cool! Looks like they have doors to cover the windows.....so you'd never know someone was living inside of it. Looks like it's 4X4, and with the bikes on the back, I'd guess they spend alot of time in the desert.

Thanks for the pics!

Tuckahoe
08-21-2008, 07:15 AM
I have been wanting to do a bus conversion for over 25 years. My grandfather did a book mobile back in the 70's. I suspect I have drawn over 1000 floor plans over the years. I did buy a 25' motorhome but a bus is 100x more solid than a motorhome.
At the present I have three camper trailers. The 20 foot travel trailer will likely be stripped out to outfit the bus. Camper sink, holding tanks, fridge, stove oven, toilet, inverter,AC, shower all compact will work great. The hull of the camper can still be used as a workshop later.
Now to find a bus....

SkooliesRock
08-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Tuckahoe- lol, I know what you mean about floorplans, I drew page after page myself.....which still may change once I'm in possession of a bus.

Be sure & post your conversion as you progress, I'd be interested in following it.