Is this a hoax?

[CarolAnn]

Today I was riding home from a short vacation in Iowa, and heard this guy on the radio saying that we are a debt-based economy here (I believe it) - but then he said that the FED (Federal Reserve Bank) is privately owned. Can this be true?

I Googled it and came up with: http://www.apfn.org/APFN/fed_reserve.htm

and I am just boggled. I can't find any reference to it on Snopes.

Does anyone know about this stuff? If so - please enlighten me because it's all news to me! (Must have been left out when I went to school!) :P

[rAcErRicK]

Hi Carolann, you might want to have seat when you read this, it just may ruin your day. If we had been taught the truth in school, this nation would not be in the mess that it is today. Your site, and this one, and many more should be required reading for every single American alive today.

http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/BIGGESTSCAMINHISTORY.HTML

[walls0stone]

I think it's a little over the top. to think that Kennedy and Lincoln were killed over that is so over the top. When people try to connect the deaths of those men to a conspericy, it looses it's water.

Why don't they ever say that the deaths of other men killed in office were connected to such events? becouse they know you will respond to the names of those 2 men.

[ryanmercer]

J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914.

Basically... London - Bank of England, J Henry Schroeder Banking Corp., Brown Shipley & Company, Morgan Greenfell & Company, Lazard Brothers, J.P Morgan, Kuhn,Loeb & Co, Drexel & Company, National City Bank N. Y, First National Bank of N.Y., Hanover National Bank N.Y., Chase National Bank N.Y. started and controlled, and still mostly control ' The Fed'

Families like Schroeder, Rockefeller, Baker, Morgan, Sterling, Rothschild, Lippmann, Goodyear, Gould, Pulitzer... and some others control(led) The Fed....

Let me remind you that J. Henry Schroder Corporation, J.P. Morgan, and a few other companies/families that control(led) The Fed have been directly linked to financing Hitler's rise to power in Germany ( as well as another name we all know... Henry Ford). They all provided millions of dollars for his political campaigns during the 1920s

Hitler was invited to a meeting at the Schroder Bank in Berlin on January 4, 1933. The leading industrialists and bankers of Germany tided Hitler over his financial difficulties and enabled him to meet the enormous debt he had incurred in connection with the maintenance of his private army. In return, he promised to break the power of the trade unions. On May 2, 1933, he fulfilled his promise.

[WRTN]

Try the link below. It requires highspeed internet connection but presents an "interesting" perspective on this very subject. Indeed The Monster of Jekyll Island.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[walls0stone]

Why would they hook up Hittler??
How did Hittler break down the unions? If they had him, why did they need to hire the bawldwin felts? Why would Ford make statments about the responcibility of capitalists to the nation they live in and the people they serve and emplyee? Why would so many Freemasons support a man who threw Freemasons into death camps? I don't think he realy needed help with the ra ra stuff. Hitler was a very effective speaker...I have his stuff on CD.

Intresting that the men you spoke of business men...in lagit busines...are acused of what you say...

and men like Myer Lanski and Charles "Lucky" Luchano would have worked in the dark to kill Nazis and protect the docks of NY. That IS on tape

[ryanmercer]

Why would they hook up Hittler?? *
How did Hittler break down the unions? *If they had him, why did they need to hire the bawldwin felts? *Why would Ford make statments about the responcibility of capitalists to the nation they live in and the people they serve and emplyee? *Why would so many Freemasons support a man who threw Freemasons into death camps? *I don't think he realy needed help with the ra ra stuff. *Hitler was a very effective speaker...I have his stuff on CD.

Intresting that the men you spoke of *business men...in lagit busines...are acused of what you say...

and men like Myer Lanski and Charles "Lucky" Luchano would have worked in the dark to kill Nazis and protect the docks of NY. *That IS on tape


They supported Hitler before he turned into a mass murderer... and it's actually arguable how much of it was Hitler behind the mas killings and not some of his top brass. For a good portion of Hitler's reign he was being manipulated via drugs by his physician (Morell), and very likely was deranged from syphilis.

The problem with the financing of Hitler was mostly a mistake... he seemed like a semi-decent guy, they financed him, and well yeah... we know how the story ends.

[walls0stone]

answer the other questions..

I still feel that tape is bunked by it's own idea that Lincole and Kenedy were killed for any other reasons than the clear cut facts....

[ryanmercer]

answer the other questions..

I still feel that tape is bunked by it's own idea that Lincole and Kenedy were killed for any other reasons than the clear cut facts....

Oh I didn't watch the tape, I thought you got that from what I said. It is fact they financed Hitler. Easily verifiable. But this was in the 20's before he was rounding up people and making death camps.

[walls0stone]

I asked you why freemasons would give over money to an ant mason... or is that not somthing your up on?

watch the video..it's BS becouse the people who stoop to telling the world that lincoln and JFK were killed by anything other than who actualy killed them is foolish

[ryanmercer]

I asked you why freemasons would give over money to an ant mason... or is that not somthing your up on? *

watch the video..it's BS becouse the people who stoop to telling the world that lincoln and JFK were killed by anything other than who actualy killed them is foolish

Hitler wasn't anti-masonic then. It wasn't until he really came to power that he started persecuting along with the jews. The main reason he was anti-masonic is he saw a threat there, that is why he disolved ten Grand Lodges of Germany once his power was significant. In 1931 Nazi party officials were given a "Guide and Instructional Letter" that stated, "The natural hostility of the peasant against the Jews, and his hostility against the Freemason as a servant of the Jew, must be worked up to a frenzy." On April 7, 1933, Hermann Goering—who once considered becoming a freemason—held an interview with Grand Master von Heeringen of the "Land" Grand Lodge of Germany, telling him there was no place for Freemasonry in Nazi Germany. The Nazi Primer, the Official Handbook for the Schooling of Hitler Youth, attacked freemasons, marxists, and the Christian churches for their "mistaken teaching of the equality of all men" by which they were said to be seeking power over the whole world.

Hitler saw us as a threat, and we went into hiding... he made the jews wear their arm bands/pins showing what they were... we however devised our own thing to identify ourselves to one another... the Forget-me-not.

Hitler was a man of madness, he appeared normal, people backed him... it looked like he wanted to help a war ravaged country get back on it's feet. Somewhere along the lines he became perverted, or his true nature came to light... and he did many horrible things.

It's like with a beggar. If you give them money, you could be the cause of someone's murder. The beggar could go and purchase drugs or alcohol with your money and murder someone in a drunken or drug induced rage. They told you they wanted to buy food... and you believed them, and thought you were doing the right thing by helping them financially. Some go and buy food, some go and get high/drunk... you never really know what their intentions are... it was the same way with financing Hitler... he appeared to be a good man that wanted to do good things. Sadly, Hitler wasn't a good man, and did very bad things. Hindsight is 20/20.