Walther P22

[RangerRick]

Sweetie wants a new Walther P22 for a concealed carry piece. Found one that will cost me $290 delivered and another $85 for the lazer sight. From what I've read it seems to be a reliable little shooter, anyone got any personal experience with the P22 they'd care to share?

Rick

[macgeoghagen]

I do. i bought one for my wife. it fits her hand well and is as accurate as the shooter. the barrel is attached to the frame and does not move. it can be fired in double or single action. i prefer single. trigger pull is light and crisp in single action, slightly heavier and crisp in double action. recoil is negligible. its fun to shoot. magazine capacity is 10+1. it has a magazine disconnecter, so if you want to let the hammer off after you clear it you have to put the magazine back in. magazine release takes getting used to. its a little lever under the trigger guard rather than a button. disassembly is a pain in the ass. you need to use the spanner wrench that comes with the pistol to take the barrel sleeve off and pull it off the barrel to get room to get the slide off, which is also a pain in the ass. I think you could hold out for a lower priced one. my wife's is the chrome one with a laser and it was in the mid 300s.

[flatwater]

I have one that I carry for My CW . I can put it almost any where and it's not bulky. At 25 feet with practice it shoots about a 4 inch circle

[RangerRick]

Tks guys. Sweetie says that's the one so my only job is to comply - yes dear.

;D

Rick

[rice paddy daddy]

I picked one up used, with laser. I wanted a small yard pest gun to slip in pocket. I tried all 4 front sight blades that came with the weapon, but never could hit anything with it, so I traded it, plus cash, for a Ruger Super Blackhawk 44 magnum. That is known as going from one extreme to the other!!! ;D
Other than the fact I was a poor shot with it, I had no complaints with the P22.

[RangerRick]

Well RPD, at least with the 44 mag you won't have any yard pest cleanup to be concerned with. Of course you may be required to go "stomp the divits" as on the polo field.

;D

Rick

[plowman]

if you get it i would use the cci velocitors
these have the most energy

[RangerRick]

Well, I thought I had one identified but it seems they are out of stock so I'm on the hunt for another so if anyone hears on one online at a good price please give me a hollar.

Rick

[RangerRick]

Sweety's new plain Jane P22 toy finally came in but the laser didn't make it - damn! Any how, out the door was an unbelieveable $271 + $9 for my neighbor bud with the FFL and they didn't charge for shipping?? WOW!

Rick

[macgeoghagen]

I'm sure you could get a laser for it anywhere. its a good tool to train you not to pull off target as you fire.

[RangerRick]

I'm ordering one Monday. Took the P22 to the range today. After 250 rounds and no jams Sweetie is happy with her new toy. That makes me happy and I'd recommend this little shooter to anyone.

Rick

[Country_Mike]

I realize that the first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun, but.....
I was under the impression that .380/.38spcl was about the least powerful handgun to carry? Not trying to be a smartypants or anything. I am thinking about ccw for myself and have a .357 Ruger ready to go.

[flatwater]

Country Mike , not to be a smart ass (I usually am but not this time) Shoot yourself in the -- you pick the spot-- with the 22. If it hits a bone it may debone your arm so be carfull and you will be pleasently surprised how it will make you think twice about how effective it will be. Now add the fact off starting at the crotch and working your way up to the head with ten rounds ( but not to your self obviosly) And I think that would give her a chance to run and seek help or enough time to put another clip in and try again.

[RangerRick]

I carry a Springfield 1911 with 230 grn HPs and feel real comfortable with it. *Summer months I change over to a Colt Government Lite in .380 with 95 grn HPs as it fits in a pocket a little better in hot weather. *The point here is Sweetie is the one carring and as she knows what she is doing and can put 10 in a silver dollar at 30 feet any time she wants. *I learned along time ago to not tell her her business as I eat better that way.

Rick

[gwhilikerz]

A face full of 22's will end most disagreeable discussions.

[flatwater]

My point exactly

[1stmate]

Rick-
Great little gun- I have one holstered on me as I type (I'm not ascairt of you guys, it's just always there).
HOWEVER- it's not a CC gun. I've encountered many failures to feed, mostly feeding issues w/the mag, but failure IS failure. Around the farm here, if I miss a tree rat because of it it's no big deal. In a self defense scenario that can be deadly.
I don't think this is an inherent problem with the gun as much as it is with the .22lr cartridge. The rimfire round is not the best to use in an autoloader. If .22 is all that can be handled w/confidence, then a revolver is the way to go.
I DO agree that catching a .22lr anywhere is going to hurt, but it probably won't incapacitate, which is the the point of a gunfight: STOP THE THREAT.
That said, if a loved one wants the .22 for carry, use a light weight revolver, available from S&W, Taurus, & others.
Good luck, take care...

[remington]

Wat about ten badly placed 22s? They'll hurt, no doubt, and they might kill them later. But I'm not concerned about later, I want him dead now! Pinpoint shot-placement goes out the window in a gunfight under fire, under pressure.

[Country_Mike]

Wat about ten badly placed 22s? *They'll hurt, no doubt, and they might kill them later. *But I'm not concerned about later, I want him dead now! *Pinpoint shot-placement goes out the window in a gunfight under fire, under pressure.

Amen

I would be worried about getting the first shot off, let alone ten of them. If someone is coming towards you quickly will you be able to draw in time? Try a test of your draw time versus the time it takes a twentysomething man to run 20 or 30 feet. Just one scenario to think about.

[RangerRick]

As I stated eariler, after 250 rounds she didn't have a jam and we have been out back shootin a bit since and still no problems with Federal cheapo stuff. Got some Stingers but I haven't tryed yet but boy, with 10 round mags that's a bunch of hurtin. The laser just came in so we'll have to do some night shootin back at the big Mulberry tree.


Rick
;D

[remington]

Good luck! Hope it keeps on shooting!

[RangerRick]

The laser sight finally came in. $100, and it is fun and seems to give Sweetie a bit more focus, especially on moving targets and makes for a bunch of laughs as well and boy, can she ever run through 10 rounds and a reload quick.

;D

Rick

[Wyzyrd]

I finally got some range-time with my P22, and I LOVE that sight-picture. No jams and does a respectable double-tap. Seems like a great li'l gun for about $300.

I think I'd want something a bit bigger for concealed-carry, anyplace but on my own farm (when I get one, someday) but there's an old saying, "It hurts a lot more to get hit by a BB than missed clean by a .44 Magnum" .

It all depends on what you're comfortable shooting.

[skipm]

If you have jamming issues check your magazine, there were quite a few problems with the first generation magazines (these has a short slot, the newer mags have a slot thats much longer).

I know some people say that he smallest defense round is a .380 but the question I ask some of our customers (I work in a gun store) is if I were to start shooting at you with a BB gun when you came in the door would you keep coming? The answer is always no, I then go on to ask if they think a .22 would be even more of a deterrent.

IMO the most important thing is that the user be comfortable with the weapon and that it be dependable. I have 2 P-22s, one 3.4" and a 5" that I added a holographic sight to that I like shooting at the range.
My personal carry gun is a Ruger LCP for pocket carry, I also have a Kel-Tec P-32 that I sometimes use in an ankle holster.

[remington]

skipm-You are talking to fairly normal people in semi-stable condition. I am talking about stopping a deranged hopped up druggy incapable of rational thought.

[Wyzyrd]

It depends 100% on the shooter - double-tap "The Incredible Hulk" in the eye with plastic airsoft BB's and you probably have time to get elsewhere.

Miss the '98-lb weakling" with a .50 Barrett and he won't even slow down.

Obviously, a reductio-ad-absurdam example, but YOUR skill/comfort level is what matters most.

[remington]

Skill and comfort level is top of the list important yes. But you are counting on the perp running after being fired upon. One thing you learn very quickly that in a firefight and while hit people do funny things. They don't drop even when fatally hit. They keep on coming when it seems impossible. You must prepare for that one attacker that doesn't run. You must have a firearm capable of deeling with everything you might reasonably be expected to deal with.