Suggestion for Glock sights?

[mike82934]

I have a Glock 21 (.45 ACP) and want to swap out the sights on it. I've heard several suggestions from several different people, but wanted to get input from you folks before I decide on anything.
As it stands, I can shoot pretty accurately in the 30-35ft. range, which is ample for what I ever plan to use it for. But I'd like to have a little bit faster target acquisition, and I think the sights may be hindering me a little.

[jim]

Have you considered one of the peep sights available? They work well for some.

jim

[mike82934]

I haven't even seen the peep sights for it, much less heard of them...that actually sounds like something I would want to look into. Do you know where I could find them? If not, I guess I'll go visit my frined Google. ;D
Either way, thanks for the help!

[jim]

I did a google search "peep sight glock" and came up with many sights, one of which is the Williams and Trijicon. I've quite a lot of experience with peep sights on military rifles, but none on pistols. Worked great on the long guns, and I see no reason they wouldn't work on the glock.

jim

[Stinger]

:) Well, this thread is a little old; but, the subject deserves an answer: You don't want to use a peep sight - or a ghost ring - on a combat pistol like the G-21.

All you'll do is slow yourself down and make it a lot tougher for yourself to acquire a fast sight picture.

If you want a better (faster) sight picture the answer is a larger easier to see front sight. Personally, I've got Meprolight Night Sights on both of my G-21's. They work just fine.

Another option is to use TruGlo TFO sights. Very nice, easy to see, fast acquisition sight with a lousy guarantee and anemic factory support; but, lots and lots of IDPA shooters seem to love them!

Meprolight Tru Dot (http://www.meprolight.com/)

TruGlo TFO (http://www.truglosights.com/content/products/firearm/handgun_sights/handgun_sights.asp)

[PK.]

I carried a Glock mod. 22 for a number of years and all I ever did was black out the factory sight. That and install a Lasermax laser.

I was a Police firearms instructor and tactical team leader and found that a very black front sight was very good for target acqusition, even in lowlight with a flashlight. I found the laser was most useful in convincing a subject that his current behavior was unacceptable, that blipping light makes quite an impression when flashing on the nose or groin. I also found the laser extremely useful for not having to refocus from front sight to subject repeatedly. You could watch the person you're dealing with without focusing on the front sight, just the flashing dot. I didn't use the laser making entries though, preferring my blacked out sight for that.

My old partner is a SWAT team member now and prefers a tritium front sight and a blacked out rear sight. He's as good as they get and anything he suggests is something that I'd try.

Personally I'd not use a peep or ghost ring on a defensive handgun although there are a few good reasons to consider them. I'm also not fond of them on hunting handguns either because it gets in the way when you're aiming beyond thirty or forty yards.

[jim]

No disrespect meant, but I've always been as fast and accurate as anyone else when using a peep sight on rifles. I have looked through them and "presented" the pistol using them on display units, but never on the range. I think they're good for a try, and will check them out as soon as able.

I also think the Glocks are very accurate pistols, but have only shot a few.

jim

[PK.]

The biggest difference between using the peep on a rifle and a handgun is obviously the amount of eye relief. With the peep or ghostring on a rifle, which I have on a couple of my pet Marlins and one of my favorite .22's, you don't have to worry about the ring obscuring the front sight when raising the muzzle for elevation because the aperature appears larger on the rifle. On the handgun, when you raise the muzzle for elevation, the ring will obscure the front sight for a good bit of the time. This is why I don't like them on hunting pistols.

Some bullseye shooters and other competition types that shoot at known yardages use peeps to good advantage.

The primary reason I wouldn't use them for a defensive handgun is because the rear sight is relatively unimportant out to 20 yards or so. Focusing on the front sight and the intended targets take up all your time and the added distraction of a rear peep doing what you can teach yourself to do is to me unnecessary.

Glock offered, and may still, a peep for their guns. A lot of people like them on defensive firearms and use them well. I've always held a minimalist approach to handguns, which is one reason I love Glocks. They are very accurate handguns and my factory model 22 will shoot right with my accurized Series 80 Colt. If I were to use the Glock for any shooting beyond 50 yards I'd change out the front sight for something taller. The factory front sight is too short for holding elevation repeatedly. I've put several thousand rounds through the Glock and can attest that their reputation for flawless performance and accuracy is well-earned.

[Stinger]

No disrespect meant, but I've always been as fast and accurate as anyone else when using a peep sight on rifles.

:) None taken! I have done A LOT of high speed pistol shooting. I know of absolutely no advantage a peep sight might offer for: CCW, CQB, or IDPA/IPSC pistol shooting. Just the opposite actually. Many times a shooter will resort to instinct or point shooting without reference to the sights.

To the best of my knowledge, and I've been heavily involved with Glock pistols for the past 5 years, the Glock factory has never offered either a ghost ring, or a peep sight on any of their pistols.

Maybe that reference is to these people?

Aro-Tek (http://www.arotek.com/)

[PK.]

It could have been that the peeps were added on by the shop, I didn't think of that.

[Badger]

Novak sights are that way to go.

[jim]

I do like those Novak sights, and they work well on my Smith.

jim

[Badger]

Sometime last week I called Novak and talked with one of the their gunsmith. I'm looking at having a set put on my Glock 19. The gunsmith was very friendly, helpful and very professional. He told me that Novak doesn't just install a set of their sight on your gun. They fit them. Novak doesn't use a sight pusher to put the sights on, but a drift punch and hammer. I believe that I'm going to have them put a set on the gun. ;D

[SingleStack45]

I second the TFO's from Tru Glo.

[cubcadet]

I believe that choice of sights are less important than practice. For competition, and instinctive type shooting for defense, you must concentrate on the front blade anyhow. I ran across a woman cop at a range that had a Glock. She couldn`t hit her target. I kindly advised her not to try and line up the sights- just keep that front sight coming down in the same imaginary vertical line after every shot. It worked for her, and I do it that way too. Ammo selection effects the gun`s accuracy too.

[Stinger]

.... I kindly advised her not to try and line up the sights - just keep that front sight coming down in the same imaginary vertical line after every shot. It worked for her, and I do it that way too. Ammo selection effects the gun`s accuracy too.
:) Not exactly correct, but pretty shrewd of you!

Yes, you have to teach yourself to think and fire vertically. However, the more you allow the front sight to settle into the rear sight notch, then, the more accurate your fire will be. With practice you can do this at considerable speed and out to distances of better than 15 yards.

It's not really, 'ammo selection' that affects speed and accuracy. Instead it's caliber, recoil, and whatever you've trained on. ;)

[seekeroftruth]

dont stop with just the sights i'd suggest replacing the whole thing with a 1911. **chuckles to my self*

seek

[Tuckahoe]

For my tired old eyes I like the factory GLOCK sights. Up close and personal (0-10 yds) I point shoot.

[JeffColorado]

If it's for home defense - you should check out "Night Sights" - really nice to be able to see them in total darkness.

[Stinger]

If it's for home defense - you should check out "Night Sights" - really nice to be able to see them in total darkness.

:) Actually what you need is a 60+ lumens HANDHELD, 'combat flashlight'. I worked in the dark without one for most of my life; so did the entire generation that I grew up with. That was until about 2 years ago when I caught a late night thief prowling around the farm.

I used to think that my Meprolight night sights were the, 'cat's ass' of pistol sights! Don't think so anymore, though. It was a very dark night. When I drew on this armed intruder he, literally, disappeared behind my brilliantly glowing bright green front sight. *:o

Fortunately, I had a lifetime of pistol experience to fall back on; however, by the time I lowered the pistol and lined up again to fire over the top of the slide, the guy was about a foot to the left and closer to me than he had been when I took the first sight picture!

(If I had fired I would have missed him clean and, then, had to deal with the reduction in my night vision caused by the repeated muzzle flash.)

Nowadays, I carry a Fenix TK-11 HANDHELD combat light with an increased 2600 mAh rated battery. I can hold my TK-11 in: (1) a, 'Neck-Index grip'; or (2) out from my body in an extended, 'FBI grip'; or (3) slightly off my own centerline in a, 'Harries grip'. *Any of these grips can completely destroy the night vision of the target without revealing my exact body centerline.

(While I hope that I will never again end up in another situation where I'll have to use any of these grip techniques, I have learned how to, 'Neck-Index' while holding slightly forward of and off my support shoulder!)

FENIX TK-11 (http://www.batteryjunction.com/fenix-tk11.html)

GRIP TECHNIQUES (http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/pgrfnbr/557/sesent/00)

In my opinion, 'night sights' are definitely overrated. What every, 'night sight' is actually good for is LOW LEVEL LIGHT situations. As I found out: Inside any really dark and fast moving nighttime event, attempting to focus on a brilliantly glowing front, 'night sight' dot can screw up your pitch dark sight picture just enough to get you into serious trouble. ;) *

[madmac]

I have Trijicon on my Glock and love them. They are great in low light, three dot system gets you on target fast. In pitch dark I am worried the sights might give me away as they are bright. I guess my main point is the three dot system is good for getting on target fast. My old Glock has fatory sights and I don't shoot as well with it as I do the three dot setup.