Reloading .35 Remington

[OzarksJohn]

Howdy.

I'm in uncharted territory for me on this one. Anyone here got some good data for 200 grain CoreLokt bullets? I have seen some +P loads as well as factory duplication loads elsewhere, but always like opinions. I'd love to get some extra zip but not if it shoots so far away from factory that I couldn't use both with the same zero at 100 yards. OzarksJohn

[kawalekm]

Hi John
Here is some data from page 274 of Lyman's 49th edition.

For a 200 grain Sierra RN shot from a 22" universal reciever

Powder starting FPS Maximum FPS Pressure
RX7 28 1860 31 1990 34800CUP
H-4895 34 1740 38.5 2035 34500CUP
IMR4064 34 1652 38.5 1947 34700CUP

Sorry if the formating looks off.

[hunter63]

I gonna be watching this one..............

Let me know what you come up with, got a bunch of brass for an old short barreled Reminton, that was given to me.

'Bout the only gun that I don't have dies for............

[OzarksJohn]

Howdy.

Hunter 63:
What model Remington rifle did you end up with? From what I've learned elsewhere, the potential of this round in suitably strong modern rifles is about 2300 FPS with a 200 grain bullet. In the older models it's about 2000-2100 FPS maximum and that depends on which of the older ones you are loading for. The general concensus seems to be about 2000 FPS for prudence in the older guns and this closely matches or slightly exceeds many factory loads as well.OzarksJohn

[hunter63]

O.J.'
It's a Remington Model 600, bolt action.
Only 37" long overall, barrel is about 18-1/2 ".
Shot it a bunch of years ago, and seemed to remember that it kicked pretty good.

Factory ammo and the empty brass that I have, came in boxes that read 200gr bullets.

Been looking for a short barreled rifle to use in my "Louisiana Box blind", maybe scope this up and put it back into service.

[OzarksJohn]

Howdy Again.

Hunter 63:

I didn't know that Remington made the 600 in .35 Remington. They did make it in a .350 Remington Mag and several other obnoxious in a short barrel chamberings though. If yours is a for real .35 Remington chambering, you have a great platform for getting all that case size can offer. It would likely be easy to drive 220 grain Speer bullets to 2300 FPS out of that bolt action, even with a stubby barrel. That'd make a mean little carbine for high density game such as hogs, bear, and even elk and moose out to maybe 200 or so yards. Loaded to the limit with Speer 180 grain bullets it'd put the real swat on any deer you'd ever come across. I'd bet you might even approach 2500 FPS with 180's. Probably have a lot of muzzle flash and blast with loads at that level though.OzarksJohn

P.S.
When shopping for scopes for that carbine, take a careful look at the smaller more compact scopes that go from about 1.5 up to about 7 power. You'll never need more than 7X no matter where you hunt, and the lower end works well in the brush too. Stay away from the big objetive bells too. 33-35mm is plenty. I've found it's way too easy to "over scope" a compact, lightweight carbine and destroy it's handling qualities and what you loved about them in the forst place. I recall once seeing a M600 carbine with a scope so big that it looked like a bad joke. It was nearly half the size of the rifle itself!OJ

[hunter63]

O.J. I agree, I had a 44 mm scope on my H&R .270 SS and it was too big, so put a 2-7 30mm scope on it, leaving it on about 3 power most of the time.
Very light and short, easy to handle.

I really like it in the "Louisiana Box blind" as it's short also and easy to poke out any window as needed.
Louisiana Box blind:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/gztheofficecrop.jpg


That's where I intend to use the .35.
And it does say .35 Remington Model 600 on the side of the barrel.
Guess I better order up a set of dies for it.

[hunter63]

I gonna be watching this one..............

Let me know what you come up with, got a bunch of brass for an old short barreled Reminton, that was given to me.

'Bout the *only gun that I don't have dies for............

O.K. Ya'll talked me into it , ordered up the dies for the .35 Rem to day, so as to have someting to do during the bad weather comming up.

[otterbob]

O.K. Ya'll talked me into it , ordered up the dies for the .35 Rem to day, so as to have someting to do during the bad weather comming up.



I believe you can use 38/357 cast or factory pistol bullets in that case. That should give you a great selection to play with.

Otter Bob

[OzarksJohn]

Howdy

As for using .357 diameter pistol bullets, yes you can IF your rifle shoots them accurately.
I did find one shooter on the web that posted about using the Hornady 180 XTP HP pistol bullet in his .35 Marlin. If I recall correctly he wasn't pushing it all too hard; maybe 1900- 2000 FPS. That's still .30/30 power levels though. Accuracy was good and expansion and on deer results were very good. Most handgun bullets aren't intended to operate at such speeds, but those XTP's are very tough so those might make a "lite" low recoil deer load for a .35. I've got several XTP's in various weights and nose types that might make for some interesting experiments should I get bored.OzarksJohn

[hunter63]

I did find a load in my tables for a 158 gr lead bullet, as well as a jacketed bullet 150 gr, loaded the same way.

I would think it would be safe and able to stand the load.
It's in the 1900 fps range.
These are what I shoot out of my .357 and are hollow points.

As the rifle is a bolt gun, not a lever action, I shouldn't be limited to round nose bullets.

Also did a little more research on the .35, came up with this:

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/fryxell/35_remington.htm

Dies came today.............

[otterbob]

Dies came today.............

Sounds like someone is going out to play !

Otter Bob

[OzarksJohn]

Howdy.

I've got me a batch of brass tumbled and shined, and 2 cans of IMR 3031 waiting on me. I'm guessing that I'll probably go with somewhere in the vicinity of 35.0-37.0 grains under those 200 grain CoreLokt bullets. From what I've read elsewhere, I should be able to easily duplicate and exceed the factory loads a bit with IMR 3031 and should expect decent accuracy somewhere in that 35.0 -37.0 range. I really should chronograph a couple factory rounds and see just what they are doing. It'd give me a benchmark to start with.OJ

[hunter63]

I believe you can use 38/357 cast or factory pistol bullets in that case. That should give you a great selection to play with.

Otter Bob

Loaded up 20 w/IMR 4595- .158 gr JHP--2107fps
" " 20 w/IMR 4831- .158 gr JHP--1850fps
Sorta a poor man's .357 mag............

Loaded 10 w/ 200 gr RN , just because.

Seems to be a big disparity on overall length?
Anyway we'll see what happens.

Be a while, got about 14" snow, so have go out and deal with it.