otterbob
01-05-2009, 03:31 PM
At the risk of being banned, An opinion By Otter Bob !
I have stayed out of the moved thread topics long enough !
Some of the moves were justified and clearly some were not.
In the short time I have been a member I have made many new friends here.
I have tried to post my topics in the correct forum.
I have tried to help other members in open forum and in private messages.
Because of a bug in the software of this board, I have made changes to my profile and taken down posted pictures, so that other members would have less problem viewing the forum.
I have ask other members to stop when I believed they were causing this forum to be viewed in a negative way.
I do not own this board nor am I a moderator, But I have been running forums for almost 20 years !
I own forums and have been administrator and moderator of forums for many years.
I posted about this problem in the section Comments, Kudos, & Criticisms and the post receive only 20 views in almost 2 day and not a single comment from a moderator or adminstrator, while a moderator was still going about moving threads to different forums that had absolutely nothing to do with the stated topics. As mater of fact a moderator stated in the above mentioned forum “folks really do get their panties all bunched up when you move a thread”
On the other hand I placed a post in “General Board” “ASKING” for opinions about inherent dangers. I did not seek opinions from only self reliant members or on the topic of self reliance. My first statement was “In a general sense of dangerous, when a plant, tool, animal or machine has inherent dangers what do you do ? “ and my last was “What is your opinion of inherent dangers? A lot of the replies jumped on my statement about me not allowing my wife to use certain equipment, but still nothing to do with being self reliant, still others argued about gender, size, and firefighters, still nothing to do with self reliance ! The topic asked for opinion !
It clearly did not ask for opinions related to self reliance !
Did moving this post help ? The post had almost ran it's course in only 1 day with near 180 views, it was clearly where it needed to be.
Did moving this post hurt ? Only in the fact that it did not need to be moved and that future readers are not going to look for this this type of post in an area that has nothing to do with the post.
If this post was such a problem then the moderator needs to take a closer look at what they have allowed in clearly the wrong forums ! The first one that comes to mind is the “spider post” under the forum “Preparedness/Survival Skills/BOBs/Kits/Gear “ the topic title of the post clearly ask for “Treatment”, treatment is clearly a medical issue and some of the replies have stated this. The forum “Health” states in the description text “A board for any kind of health issue, alternative medicines, herbal and folk remedies, etc.”, well getting bit by a spider and asking for a treatment clearly fits in the “Health” board ! Is the Health board subject to only treatments that are not part of a SHTF scenario ?
The second post that comes to mind is the “SWAT Team Raids Food Co-op” under the forum “Preparedness/Survival Skills/BOBs/Kits/Gear” the board description states ”If it will help keep you going when TSHTF, talk about it here. “ This clearly can do nothing for you when TSHTF ! It is in the past and cannot effect the future.
This post was not moved or deleted and has been up for almost a month !!! yet the very same post is under “Freedom/Rights “ what does the description text say ? “Discuss articles, ideas, people, and anything else pertaining to your rights and freedoms. “ if you read the topic and the posts it clearly has nothing to do with “Your rights or freedoms” , However ! It does fit under the forum “Conspiracy Theories/Speculation“ the description text says “Real or imagined, from the left , right, or center, about pretty much anything from Aliens to Zebras taking over the world.“
If you read the replies you will find that they are full of “CONSPIRACY and SPECULATION” .
For almost a month it has been in “Freedom/Rights “ and not where it should have been in “Conspiracy Theories/Speculation“ ! So we now have the same post in two different locations and neither are correct !
As other members have said, this board has become very confusing from number of sub-forums and moderator inconsistency. It is difficult for the average or experienced user to determine where to post a topic. And I can tell you from experience that members are going to start limiting their use and support.
Maybe they have ? This board is nearing 5,000 members and only about 50 are “regular” posters.
To most users it is clear when a post needs to be deleted or a thread needs to be moved, and when it should not. So ask yourself way so many are complaining about the improper and inconsistency in moving threads !
I have been watching the forum membership counter, number of post, and number of views in different areas of the board, and it is time that the Administrators do something !
If this board is going to have so many sub-forums that the moderator does not know where something goes, then the administrator should make some changes and/or re-instruct the moderator on how to moderate !
This in not an attack on a moderator, only a statement and point of view from someone that has knowledge of forums.
I understand that this post may get me banned and ask other members not to respond to this post without knowing it could get you into trouble also !
Even if banned I will still be a friend and supporter of BHM !
Salamat, Otter Bob
It seems that the Administrator does not frequent the forums so I will send a copy of this post to the administrator.
I have stayed out of the moved thread topics long enough !
Some of the moves were justified and clearly some were not.
In the short time I have been a member I have made many new friends here.
I have tried to post my topics in the correct forum.
I have tried to help other members in open forum and in private messages.
Because of a bug in the software of this board, I have made changes to my profile and taken down posted pictures, so that other members would have less problem viewing the forum.
I have ask other members to stop when I believed they were causing this forum to be viewed in a negative way.
I do not own this board nor am I a moderator, But I have been running forums for almost 20 years !
I own forums and have been administrator and moderator of forums for many years.
I posted about this problem in the section Comments, Kudos, & Criticisms and the post receive only 20 views in almost 2 day and not a single comment from a moderator or adminstrator, while a moderator was still going about moving threads to different forums that had absolutely nothing to do with the stated topics. As mater of fact a moderator stated in the above mentioned forum “folks really do get their panties all bunched up when you move a thread”
On the other hand I placed a post in “General Board” “ASKING” for opinions about inherent dangers. I did not seek opinions from only self reliant members or on the topic of self reliance. My first statement was “In a general sense of dangerous, when a plant, tool, animal or machine has inherent dangers what do you do ? “ and my last was “What is your opinion of inherent dangers? A lot of the replies jumped on my statement about me not allowing my wife to use certain equipment, but still nothing to do with being self reliant, still others argued about gender, size, and firefighters, still nothing to do with self reliance ! The topic asked for opinion !
It clearly did not ask for opinions related to self reliance !
Did moving this post help ? The post had almost ran it's course in only 1 day with near 180 views, it was clearly where it needed to be.
Did moving this post hurt ? Only in the fact that it did not need to be moved and that future readers are not going to look for this this type of post in an area that has nothing to do with the post.
If this post was such a problem then the moderator needs to take a closer look at what they have allowed in clearly the wrong forums ! The first one that comes to mind is the “spider post” under the forum “Preparedness/Survival Skills/BOBs/Kits/Gear “ the topic title of the post clearly ask for “Treatment”, treatment is clearly a medical issue and some of the replies have stated this. The forum “Health” states in the description text “A board for any kind of health issue, alternative medicines, herbal and folk remedies, etc.”, well getting bit by a spider and asking for a treatment clearly fits in the “Health” board ! Is the Health board subject to only treatments that are not part of a SHTF scenario ?
The second post that comes to mind is the “SWAT Team Raids Food Co-op” under the forum “Preparedness/Survival Skills/BOBs/Kits/Gear” the board description states ”If it will help keep you going when TSHTF, talk about it here. “ This clearly can do nothing for you when TSHTF ! It is in the past and cannot effect the future.
This post was not moved or deleted and has been up for almost a month !!! yet the very same post is under “Freedom/Rights “ what does the description text say ? “Discuss articles, ideas, people, and anything else pertaining to your rights and freedoms. “ if you read the topic and the posts it clearly has nothing to do with “Your rights or freedoms” , However ! It does fit under the forum “Conspiracy Theories/Speculation“ the description text says “Real or imagined, from the left , right, or center, about pretty much anything from Aliens to Zebras taking over the world.“
If you read the replies you will find that they are full of “CONSPIRACY and SPECULATION” .
For almost a month it has been in “Freedom/Rights “ and not where it should have been in “Conspiracy Theories/Speculation“ ! So we now have the same post in two different locations and neither are correct !
As other members have said, this board has become very confusing from number of sub-forums and moderator inconsistency. It is difficult for the average or experienced user to determine where to post a topic. And I can tell you from experience that members are going to start limiting their use and support.
Maybe they have ? This board is nearing 5,000 members and only about 50 are “regular” posters.
To most users it is clear when a post needs to be deleted or a thread needs to be moved, and when it should not. So ask yourself way so many are complaining about the improper and inconsistency in moving threads !
I have been watching the forum membership counter, number of post, and number of views in different areas of the board, and it is time that the Administrators do something !
If this board is going to have so many sub-forums that the moderator does not know where something goes, then the administrator should make some changes and/or re-instruct the moderator on how to moderate !
This in not an attack on a moderator, only a statement and point of view from someone that has knowledge of forums.
I understand that this post may get me banned and ask other members not to respond to this post without knowing it could get you into trouble also !
Even if banned I will still be a friend and supporter of BHM !
Salamat, Otter Bob
It seems that the Administrator does not frequent the forums so I will send a copy of this post to the administrator.