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tufhelp
01-30-2009, 08:30 AM
I’ll add my thanks for a job well done as well, BUT (there is always a but isn’t there). This is not an aspersion on your adim abilities and efforts, more a frustration with the “system”.
The frustration: The width of the display – this time not with “big” photos being somewhere in the pile, but with text only. I was looking through the last 50 posts thread and all was well, I pulled up the “Re: Man use of substances” And it is really wide on the screen and all of the entries are text only, no “big” photos.

I know, use Firefox and all will be well – well I don’t really want to go to through any extra steps to look at the site. For years I never had to go to Firefox to see the site – now “all of a sudden” I do? At first because of some mysterious resizing system glitch with photos – now the same problem with text… I don’t get it.

Oh well, I guess I’ll be Firefox-ing for the near future…

bee_pipes
01-30-2009, 09:22 AM
Style codes are used to insert links, pictures, etc. These are the little character strings put in, enclosed with square brackets ([]). The use of these style codes are outlined on the BHM Reader's Forum Help Files (http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/yabb/help/posting.html).

For the sake of illustration, the square brackets ([]) are replaced by curly brackets ({}). The style codes for inserting a link is as follows:
{url}http://site.com{/url}
and
{url=http://site.com}SITE{/url}

The first method is the simplest and most commonly used here. Folks put in the style codes and insert the link between the codes. The entire link is displayed. Due to a shortcoming in MS Explorer, it does not want to wrap the link. By not wrapping the link, the margins or width of the screen are overridden, resulting in the nuisance condition you encountered.

The second method, similar to the one I used above to provide a link to the help page, displays a text string of your choosing and ties it to the link. Links/web addresses can get pretty long.

It is unlikely that you will get people to all start using the second method. The alternative is to either accept the problem or use another web browser.

I'm not crazy about switching a program I have gotten used to. I used Mozilla for ages - the predecessor of FireFox. I found it to be much faster than Explorer and FireFox. This might sound trivial, but on a dial-up connection is does make a difference.
However, FireFox has now included an on-screen spelling checker. FireFox itself runs faster than explorer, it just takes longer to load than Mozilla used to.

I used to encounter the same problem you are describing when I used Mozilla - not often, but on occasion. Now I have to wait until someone reports the problem before noticing it. If you look at the post you mentioned, Re: Man use of substances (http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/yabb/forum.pl?board=per-philosophy;action=display;num=1233059184;start=15# 15), I have fixed the problem with this post in the manner described above. If you go to the message and do a quote, you will see how the style codes are handled.

This is just one post. The next time someone inserts a long link you will encounter the problem again.

Regards,
Pat

tufhelp
01-31-2009, 09:02 AM
Thanks for the explanation, but that doesn't address what happened to make it happen in the first place when it never used to happen... Just an aggravation that the board doesn't work with probably the most used system in the world... You have to go someplace else and/or do some finagling just to enjoy the forum.

Oh well, I'm sure this will pass too... Till the next change for what seems like changes sake - To make it more "user friendly" and/or "intuitive" - the two death knells in my book which immediately indicate that it will be neither user friendly nor intuitive.

admin
01-31-2009, 03:59 PM
Thanks for the explanation, but that doesn't address what happened to make it happen in the first place when it never used to happen... Just an aggravation that the board doesn't work with probably the most used system in the world... You have to go someplace else and/or do some finagling just to enjoy the forum.

Oh well, I'm sure this will pass too... Till the next change for what seems like changes sake - To make it more "user friendly" and/or "intuitive" - the two death knells in my book which immediately indicate that it will be neither user friendly nor intuitive.
Hmmm...are you saying you've previously used this Forum with your current browser and never had long links force the page to be wider and that, at some point, it just started happening?

If so, what previously happened on pages with long links? Did the links wrap to the next line? Were they cut off?

I'd love to find a solution to the problem but everything I read indicates it is a Microsoft not recognizing standard tags problem.


Oliver

bee_pipes
01-31-2009, 04:23 PM
Could be an update to MS Explorer? It lost it's tolerance for long links?

Regards,
Pat

tufhelp
02-01-2009, 09:36 AM
"Hmmm...are you saying you've previously used this Forum with your current browser and never had long links force the page to be wider and that, at some point, it just started happening?"

Precisely, can't quite put a time frame on it, but one day (seems like not to awfully long in the past) this width thing started happening. I believe that there were some problems for a short time with width when they set up the choose the way you want to see the layout for the site (Ads Right, Old Style, Full Width).

But, basically everything has worked as advertised until this recent bit of weirdness...

admin
02-02-2009, 09:02 PM
"Hmmm...are you saying you've previously used this Forum with your current browser and never had long links force the page to be wider and that, at some point, it just started happening?"

Precisely, can't quite put a time frame on it, but one day (seems like not to awfully long in the past) this width thing started happening. I believe that there were some problems for a short time with width when they set up the choose the way you want to see the layout for the site (Ads Right, Old Style, Full Width).

But, basically everything has worked as advertised until this recent bit of weirdness...

That is very odd. I have not made any recent modifications that would affect wrapping. If it was just links or just images, it might be able to trace it to...I don't know, something, but they are different kinds of elements.

I'll think about it but honestly, I'm not all that hopeful unless Microsoft gets with the program.


Oliver