Re: Is this just a pro-christian board?

[flatwater]

Flamethrower , ya got to admit that when you get on a thread that says theology/religion , that there may by pro Christians on it that will stand up and fight.
Flatwater

[Catalpa]

No, I don't believe that this is a "pro-Christian" board only; but I think several things are in play here:

1. Backwoodshome is basically a conservative magazine - and before anyone jumps on that word, I mean that the ideas of self-sufficiency, preparedness, self-reliance, responsibility and independence voiced by the magazine are generally found more strongly among conservative folks, than the liberal left-wingers.

2. Conservative folks, by and large, tend to be religious, and more specifically, Christian.

(Remember I'm speaking in generalities here)

3. Much of what you post is a direct attack against Christianity.

So, of course, the answer to your question as to "what is the problem with you Christians?" Is this: when our faith is attacked, we will respond.

sjf, I don't feel that you have been excessively nasty or uncivil. However you are wearisome, as you post yards and yards and yards of material, basically quoting many secular sources as "proof" that Jesus does not exist, or God isn't God, or whatever your current theme may be.

So yes, I have a problem with your posts. I find them full of the self-importance and circular thinking of the liberals and the relative moralists, without a shred of truth. "Discussions" that are long-winded, and go on only for the sake of argument.

So I respond, in defense of my faith, and in an effort to refute your arguments and expose others to the truth of God's word.

I would do the same if you were posting in favor of Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, or any other false religion.

So don't take off for a "Christian-hating board" - as long as you're here and arguing, the more chance I have to pray for you and show you the truth. ;)

[gardenfay]

sfreeman;
i believe you are trying to disprove Christianity as i know it and then acting surprised when people oppose you. You don't listen to the Truth - or maybe are just flat blinded to it.
You may be a free human being on this earth at this particular point in time. but look around, your freedom as a human being can be taken from you at any point. just as your life on this earth can be taken from you at any time.
The sacrifice Christ made for you on the cross offers you real freedom. eternal life. The Bible tells us many times that God will let you find Him if you seek for Him.
But you do have to seek for Him.
So try sincerely praying and then opening up the Bible. See if God will respond to your search for Him. He did for me.

[WileyCoyote]

There are many 'truths'.
This is why, generally, I do not post to the Christianity boards, either pro or con. I have adopted a "wive and wet wive" attitude toward those who feel the need to proselytize their beliefs of any stripe, especially those who want to argue. I do not feel the need to 'save' anyone. Everyone is responsible for their own salvation, and discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin - or whether or not Jesus was the Son of God (IMHO, we are all sons and daughters of God), or the Messiah, or which of the authors of the Bible told the truth or were creative writers or were edited by political machinations, is sort of a waste of time to me. People will believe whatever they choose, and trying to change their minds is usually fruitless. Producing reams of quotes of opinions from authors of any debate proves nothing - be they from the Pope or secular humanists or anyone in between.
Unless they, like Thomas, were there to put their hands in the side of Christ, or to touch the nailmarks in His hands, they have only opinions and feelings on which to base their beliefs. Which, pretty much eliminates anyone here - I hope. :o ;D

Excuse me please. I have work to do... :)

[BrentL]

nice post WC.

[wax]

It has been a long time since I read this forum (I started a new job and have been extremely busy) but I myself have been scorched after posting on these threads concerning the historical evidence for Biblical foundation.

The problem with discussing any religion is assumed intent and emotional investment of the reader. The difference between faith and belief can be so wide that one never encounters the other.

But does any of that make this a pro-Christian anti-anything else board? Not really.
One will simply find many here who are not interested in discussing religion but who are only looking for affirmation or perhaps better a re-affirmation of whatever faith they might hold.

[bookwormom]

quote by sjf
So my question is:
Is this board just for posting pro-christian comments and/or opinions?


Huh ??? ??? ??? ???

odd question. you have not posted anything pro christian, or?
You have your say, the other side have theirs. You may be outnumbered , but nobody is stopping you, or is there?
I am sorry, I have not been able to keep up and have not read most of the postings.

[BrentL]

out of the 20 threads visible on page one of this forum, 11 of them were started by sjf. out of the 11, zero are pro Christian.

now, you asked: Is this board just for posting pro-christian comments and/or opinions?

in one sense, yes, because if you will review rule 3, 3. The board will not be a place to bash other people's beliefs. It will be a place where members can discuss their beliefs, even question their beliefs, in a civil and respectful manner.

or, as I read that, you cannot bash Christianity or any other belief. I would respectfully submit that that includes sjf's beliefs. I would also respectfully submit that sjf is in flagrant violation of the spirit of rule 3. 11 out of 20 threads and all of them are just calling into question others beliefs. saying "i believe this isn't" is not a belief its a counterbelief. I dont think that falls under the saying "respectful manner", I think it is baiting. I do think sjf has brought up good points and ones that are worthy of research and investigation if you are unaware of the reality's he has brought to light, I just think the approach of calling other peoples faith into question as a SOP instead of just standing up for your own is poor marksmanship.

[bookwormom]

I just looked, and of the last ten threads started, eight were by you. (not that I have a problem with that) However,from what I have read of your postings, the tenor of most of them is, lets show those ignorant Christians how wrong they are.

quote:
Most of my posting is about the historical background of how we came to have the bible and christianity -- so how is that 'a direct attack against Christianity'?

no personal offense intended, but my impression is you leave no stone unturned to demonstrate how wrong those Christians are and how right you are. Were you expecting them to turn from their faith en masse or what? Of course any Christian will feel his faith to be under attack and called upon to voice a defense.

considering the abundance of not exactly pro christian postings by you, the title of this thread , 'Is this just a pro-christian board'? seems a bit ludicrous, imho.

[dwh]

So my question is:
Is this board just for posting pro-christian comments and/or opinions?

Yea, I think it must be.

sjf,

I have mods moving my posts, and calling me down for rude behavior after I have been insulted. I'm being accused of baiting with my posts while nothing is said to the "Christians" constantly flaming you.

I have already had problems with Oliver over his mods, so you are on your own again, I'm out. Think I'll stay away this time.