View Full Version : Today Diesel is 4.19 a gal
flatwater
03-15-2008, 08:45 PM
I stopped to fill the dodge today and was greeted with 4.19 a gal. So the wife and I went down and bought a 250 motor scooter that gets 80 miles per gal. I figure it was a free motor scooter because the amount of savings on diesel to gas will make the payment for the scooter.
Flatwater
pergammano
03-16-2008, 04:54 AM
I don't know whether this will ease your pain or not...Diesel where I live is $6.96 a Cdn. gallon... :'(
ryanmercer
03-16-2008, 08:01 AM
Start changing your friends oil and cutting your diesel with it ;) hahahah
kawalekm
03-16-2008, 03:41 PM
I haven't seen any reasonable justification as to why diesel is jumping so quickly. Just a 5 weeks ago it was 3.33$/gallon, then a week later it was 3.79, then 3.89, yesterday 4.09$/gallon. That's the cheapest price. Within a couple of minutes from home I saw prices as high as 4.29! Well, what happened? A rise like that doesn't seem like demand, but something more like a refinery fire.
Usually what I see is diesel dropping down around the price of regular in the winter, then jumping up past premium in the summer. But now, diesel's far past premium already. At this rate I'd predict diesel to reach 4.50-4.60/gallon by mid summer.
Michael
flatwater
03-16-2008, 05:59 PM
What has brought the diesel up in price and gas also is just greed by the big oil companies. Never before have they made such a profit. But thats the price we pay to live like we do. For crying out loud Diesel is a buy product of gas and should be a lot cheaper.
Flatwater
turboRC
03-17-2008, 02:42 PM
Yes this sucks so bad
<<Usually what I see is diesel dropping down around the price of regular in the winter, then jumping up past premium in the summer.>>
Really I always saw the opposite diesel was cheapest in the summer and more in the winter. It is the same stuff as fuel oil so when it was cold more of it went to heat homes. Part of the problem is more refineries are switching over to gas because there is more profit in that and most people don’t get upset when diesel is high. Now most the diesel gets cracked to make gas. And with low sulfur fuel it is a little harder to make. The biggest thing driving the price up is probably speculators and the weakening dollar. Remember everyone that is pulling out of real estate needs the next investment that can’t go down.
My first car was a diesel VW jetta I loved that car. My senior year of high school diesel was $.89 a gal, I went 550 miles on $10. Oh how times have changed and I’m only in my twenties.
If you have the place to play around I would be looking to make a car go on WVO. And find a place to get it for free. I know some people running old trucks and VWs on 50/50 diesel/WVO.
kawalekm
03-18-2008, 05:31 AM
Hi Jott
Yes, you're right; I got things turned around. *In our area diesel usually has a much more stable price than gas, so in the winter when gas is cheap, diesel's price was about equal to premium. * In May-June, when gas is the highest priced, regular is more expensive than diesel.
Originally, I was very enthusiastic about switching to diesel because I thought it would be the fuel of the future. *My reasoning was that diesel was inherently more efficient than gas, so it was more economical, and second that biodiesel was an alternative fuel that just about anyone had the capability of making right in their own garages.
Now I am having second thoughts. *It seems that the price of diesel is skyrocketing even faster than gas. *Is it because many other people have come to the same conclusion as I did? *Of course, this has to happen AFTER I trade in my E85 capable truck and switched over to a diesel one!
Michael
Well, i'm glad i kept my old diesel pu, and just bought a newer fuel efficient car to drive.
I'm paying under $2.00 for my diesel fuel, that's $3.90 per gallon at the pump here now, + 50% used motor oil, so it comes to under 2 bucks in my tank. (actually, i'm still useing diesel out of my bulk tank that i bought for $2.69 per gallon)
You can't run any amount of used oil in the newer diesels pu's, you have to make BIO to get cheap fuel.
How is E85 a good deal?? Your fuel milage drops so much when you run it, you end up paying the same price as reg. gas. At least that's what my friends who have tried it tell me.
DM
Stephen_B
04-07-2008, 06:36 PM
There is only so much diesel in a bbl of oil while gasoline can be had from a variety of components in the bbl when the oil is refined. *As well, in case nobody has noticed, the international trade economy has EXPLODED over the past 10 years and that mean lots of trade. *Ships run on heavy diesel, trucks run on diesel, freight trains too and world freight tonnage is still expanding like crazy. *As well in Europe and many other parts of the world, diesel cars are WAY more popular than new gasoline cars are.
Diesel is being loved to death, regardless of whether it is easier to refine or not.
As for oil company greed....heck, they've ALWAYS been greedy, not just now but in the 1990s and 80s too, yet here we now have high prices. *Greed is a constant, and if it alone were driving high diesel prices, we'd have never seen "cheap" diesel to begin with.
The bogeyman is high usage and flat supply.
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