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Old 04-04-2012, 03:05 PM
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I want to purchase an actual e-reader that I can carry with me. DD was gifted a Kindle for her BD last year, I think it's the 3G with options, that has a keyboard on it. I'm trying to decide if I want one with a keyboard or without so I'm looking for comments and opinions from you folks. Will you please give your opinion? If you have an e-reader which one do you have and would you recommend it for someone who's not very tech savvy? DD wants the Fire which lists for $199 on Amazon. They range in price from $79 - $349 for the DX, whatever that is. The two I'm most interested in are the Kindle Keyboard 3G for $139 or the Fire for $199. I'm at a loss as to which would be better for me though I admit I'm leaning toward buying myself the Fire then this fall buying one for DD for her BD if she hasn't already bought one for herself by then.

I know that B&N sells a Nook and a Nook Color but I read customer reviews that if something goes wrong they will only send you a refurbished one as a replacement. I don't want to go that route as I think it's really poor customer support, about like what I got when I owned my Toshiba laptop.

Thanks in advance for any comments and opinions you folks might make, hopefully someone will comment.
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I have a Kindle and I love it. I had considered the Kindle Fire but decided that is not what I want. In deciding, it's really a matter of what you're looking for.

The Kindle Fire includes a lot of web-related features and applications besides the ability to access and read books. However, for my purposes, a lot of that stuff, I can get through my Droid, albeit on a smaller screen. If I wanted that stuff, and more, I'd get an iPad.

What they sacrifice in the Kindle Fire is the regular, book-like, visual feed of it book-reading features. In other words, the regular (non-Fire) Kindles do not have the backlit screen that a lot of people (including myself) find uncomfortable when I want to read for more than a few minutes at a time. I've looked at the Kindle Fire and don't think I'd like to read a whole book on it, for the same reasons that I dislike reading long textual passages on a computer. It hurts my eyes.

The regular Kindle screen is not hard on the eyes, while the Kindle Fire screen is more like reading text on a computer screen.

I looked into the Nook before deciding on a Kindle and found, at least at that time, that the Nook didn't offer nearly the selection that I could get through the Kindle, particularly the free stuff.

There is a lot of free stuff available in Kindle, and if you have an Amazon Prime account, there are even more that you can read for free that won't remain on your Kindle forever, but certainly long enough to read it. For that matter, a lot of libraries are now offering loans of Kindle titles.

I have two Kindles, and I like both of them. The older one uses buttons and a small keyboard to flip pages or enter text, while the newer one uses screen touches for that sort of thing. To a small extent, I think maybe I like the older one better but it could be that I haven't quite gotten used to the new one and, perhaps because of that, I am often activating things by mistake.
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I bought a Kindle about a year ago, and use it a lot. As an e-reader, it's really good, until you come to maps or illustrations. Those are terrible. Now I'm seeing that a lot of Kindle books on Amazon actually cost MORE than the paperbacks!

A couple months ago, I bought a refurbished Nook ($119) from Ebay. Great quality screen, fairly easy to use, and pretty much useless as I got it. So I rooted it to an Android tablet, and now it's a great little machine. Free apps galore, and you can actually see the page when using the internet.

I put the Kindle app on the Nook, so it makes a decent e-reader too. But, I still use the Kindle for reading -- less eye strain, and the Kindle is so lightweight, I don't need to support my hand while reading. The Nook gets tiresome.

I guess it boils down to what you want. A mini-computer or a book reader? Plus and minus to both. I use both, but for different things.
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I bought a Kindle about a year ago, and use it a lot. As an e-reader, it's really good, until you come to maps or illustrations. Those are terrible.
Yeah, I forgot about that part. They are generally illegible. My new Kindle is slightly clearer in that respect but still way less than optimal.
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I bought a kindle fire a few weeks ago.
Took it back after 2 days.
Didn't like reading on it and it wasn't very god for other things like web surfing.
I bought a Samsung 7" tablet and I really like it.
Grandson just got a new kindle and he loves it.
If it is just for reading then I would get the kindle with WiFi only.
I have wireless at home so I don't really need the 3G.
You will also get a free month of Amazon Prime with the kindle.
I like that so much I'm going to buy the 1 year plan for $79.
Free 2 day shipping, lots of TV shows and movies.
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Huh-oh, watch out. Here comes another thread hijack...

Amazon Prime. I eyeball that every time I order something from them. I usually get their "free" shipping option, so I won't save much on shipping costs. I have a satellite internet hookup which is too slow for streaming movies or TV shows, and the bandwidth restrictions would shut me down with one movie anyway. The occasional "free" books and loaners don't appeal to me all that much. So, Amazon Prime just isn't worth it, from an economics POV.

BUT, I sure get tired of the intentional delays with their "free" shipping option. I'm wondering if it would be worth $80 a year to get something in the same week I order it? Any other comments about it?
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Huh-oh, watch out. Here comes another thread hijack...
I will make a point of speaking to the subject of the thread too, so as not to contribute to a total hijack.

For me, the Prime free two-day shipping itself is worth it, since I buy more stuff from Amazon than anywhere else, I think, now that they sell pretty much everything.

So far, I haven't used their free Kindle book-lending feature for Prime members yet, but probably will at some point in the future.

As for the free streaming movies, I would probably use that more often if it worked the way it is supposed to work for me. I have a Roku and, while I routinely stream movies from Netflix, Hulu Plus, and several other channels, whenever I try to stream Amazon movies, it will not recognize my Prime membership and tries to charge me per movie. When I complain to Amazon, they connect me with some twit who tries to walk me through setting up my Roku, which is already set up, and matching my Roku with my Amazon account, which I have already done. It is matched to my Amazon account, as it is quite willing to charge my account for movies that are supposed to be free. When this doesn't work they tell me to call Roku support, despite the fact that it's not a Roku problem. The free streaming works if I am willing to free up a computer monitor for it, which I've done a few times, but I can't get it to work through my Roku without charging my account.

However, the free shipping is worth the Prime membership in itself for me, so much so that, when I shop on Amazon, I always use the option that will only return items that are eligible for Prime, as I don't buy anything else.

They have been very good about the two-day free shipping. I ordered a live trap from them costing something short of $50 once. When it didn't arrive on schedule, I did the tracking on it and found that it had stalled out at one of the UPS stopping points, and hadn't moved in two days. I reported that to Amazon, and they sent out another live trap at no charge, telling me that if the other arrived, I could do with it as I pleased, They both arrived on the same day, so now I have two of them for the price of one.

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I have wireless at home so I don't really need the 3G.
Generally, the wireless works for me too. However, since I travel a fair amount, I've found the 3G to be helpful in that I can pick up a connection most anywhere, such as restaurants.
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However, the free shipping is worth the Prime membership in itself for me, so much so that, when I shop on Amazon, I always use the option that will only return items that are eligible for Prime, as I don't buy anything else.

That's what I do with their "free" shipping option, too. Of course, it never is "free," they just add in a shipping charge to the price. Usually it turns out to be less than the item+shipping, but still more than the item cost itself. But it's slow, 10 days being about the norm.

Thanks for taking the time to discuss it! I'm going to mull it over, which usually means I'll grudgingly buy it.
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Well thanks for the replies, I think. I have no interest in Amazon Prime as I seldom order anything online so it would be a waste of money for me. All the books on my Kindle app on my laptop are freebies I have yet to buy a book for it and don't think I ever will since there are so many free ones out there. Thanks for letting me know the Fire can be hard on the eyes though I don't have any trouble reading on my laptop, I've read two books on it in just over 2 days and have started on the third. I'll probably go with the 3G Kindle though as I want to be able to occasionally connect to the 'net from places like McDonald's and out at the hospital while I wait to pick up my prescriptions or the like.
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Most hospitals have a free wifi for visitors and patients.
A lot of McDs also have free wifi.
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