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Old 08-02-2013, 05:09 PM
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Default Safe way to make black powder?

Getting real tired of paying full price for black powder and am ready to make my own. I read that the finer the mix, the better and more reliable the product. My question is: I have a rock-polishing tumbler and am wondering if mixing the ingredients for black powder and tumbling them for a few days with glass marbles would be effective or hazardous. Any thoughts?
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:40 PM
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If you can guarantee static electricity from the friction would not ignite it.

The glass marbles wouldn't have enough weight to pulverize it. This was done with massive marble wheels and ground down.
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/109390677/...Skylighter-Kom

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Old 08-03-2013, 05:32 PM
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Thanks alot, Army Sgt.
Great website. Enough to scare me into doing the old way. A few FPS isn't worth the risk.
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Default ? what is full price in your area?

I see BP avg in the $30.00 per pound range. I order mine in case lots for an avg of $14.00.
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I do NOT tumble my BP or chemicals... I use the "wet" method of making my BP... If anybody wants a video on how I make mine, just PM me with your email and I will foreward the video a buddy made...

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Old 08-12-2014, 10:46 PM
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I use the "wet" method of making my BP...
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That's what I was thinking of. Keep it wet when mixing.
Something I read from history /technical books.
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Even if mixed wet, it still has to be dried, then ground and screened to get the proper sized particles

The particle size is rated as "F", with one "F" being the largest and 4F (FFFF)
being the finest

The larger the weapon, the larger the granules
Making the particles smaller makes it more explosive

There is no "safe" way to do it.

I'd just look around and find the best deal on a case of commercial BP or a good BP substitute such as Hodgdon's 777
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The Foxfire book has a good article on making BP
It gets into specifics about what woods to use and what NOT to use

http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/foxfire5.html

I also have this recipe for "Red Powder", although I've never made any:

Red Gunpowder

2 Cups Water
2 Cups + 2 TBS Saltpeter
1 Cup Sugar
2 TBS Iron Oxide

Bring water to boil, add ingredients in order given.
Simmer until thick as oatmeal, stirring constantly

Spread on cookie sheet to dry.
Cut into progressively smaller squares as it dries, then screen as final step
Allow to dry thoroughly

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I see BP avg in the $30.00 per pound range. I order mine in case lots for an avg of $14.00.
$30 a lb? That's outrageous. I just bought a 1 lb can of 2fg Goex recently at the local hardware store/gun shop. I paid $18.00...
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Wow Bearfoot, i use almost the same recipi for making rocket fuel...
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Wow Bearfoot, i use almost the same recipi for making rocket fuel...
LOL

There's little difference in BP and many powders used in fireworks or rocket propellents

It's all about CONTROLLED explosions
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Old 08-14-2014, 04:19 PM
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Amen to the "controlled" explosions....

In the 1960's US army "improvised munitions manual" a simular recipi can also be used in small arms rounds like 223 .

If anybody wants a copy of that or any other military training manuals in my collection, I can email you a link to my collection.... Just PM me.... They are not copywrited, so I scanned most of them or downloaded them into PDF format so I could carry them in my solar powdered Ipad...

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