Have you guys seen this?

[Doninalaska]

Man, I just discovered they make a .50 cal. AIRGUN that uses 4500 psi to push the bullet out the barrel!

https://www.umarexusa.com/products/umarex-hammer

[Bones]

I like the idea of an air gun but what always seems to be the show stopper is what it takes to fill it with that 3,000 PSI. It does not sound like something a home consumer can do. Do you have to take scuba tanks and get them filled to charge it?

[Doninalaska]

Apparently you can use scuba tanks or specially-developed hand pumps. The guy I heard talking about it said "several fills from a tank and several shots peer fill, but the economic choice is the hand pump". Apparently air guns have problems with scopes, but this has no problem with scopes and can be used to hunt larger game such as deer and black bear. He also said there WAS sound to it, but not loud enough to require hearing protection, and almost no recoil.

[J R Adams]

Large caliber air rifles aren't new.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle

[Bearfootfarm]

One of the problems with using SCUBA tanks is finding places which can fill them along with those who will fill them without a SCUBA certification.

The pumps can be expensive up front, but if they last several years they will eventually pay for themselves.

Most of the PCP (Pre-Charged-Pneumatic) guns operate at around 3000 PSI

There's lots of great information here:
https://www.pyramydair.com/

[ironmonger]

Here are some links to high pressure air pumps. They’ve gotten much more reasonable in recent years.

I have a 4000# scuba pump I picked up years ago, but these are much less expensive,


https://www.crosman.com/connect/cros...cp-compressor/


https://www.ebay.com/itm/110V-30MPa-4500PSI-Air-Compressor-Pump-PCP-Electric-High-Pressure-Auto-Shutdown/253644319977?epid=27019500225&hash=item3b0e612ce9: g:NCEAAOSw~7ZbMEL6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVcZmZXEFhY
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[Nickathome]

Seriously, what is the advantage to an airgun over a conventional firearm? Especially in this case where a specialized pump is required refill the tanks. Its a slave technology no different per se than regular firearms, whereas the former is a slave to the pump, and that latter to gun powder etc. I don't see any advantage with the airgun.

[Doninalaska]

Originally Posted by Nickathome

Seriously, what is the advantage to an airgun over a conventional firearm? Especially in this case where a specialized pump is required refill the tanks. Its a slave technology no different per se than regular firearms, whereas the former is a slave to the pump, and that latter to gun powder etc. I don't see any advantage with the airgun.

I don't think there is an advantage to it where firearms are allowed, but airguns are often allowed in places where firearms are not.

[blackpowderbill]

There is a group in NY that contacted me some years back wanting to come to one of our shoots to show off their products. They arrived and while I was not at this shoot they show cased several that shot 50 cal round ball really accurate.

[Mad_Professor]

Here's one that shoots a .45 cal 430 gr bullet (same as a 45-70). They have shot buffalo, deer, elk,........

http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/LA_Outlaw.htm

[Mad_Professor]

Originally Posted by Nickathome

Seriously, what is the advantage to an airgun over a conventional firearm? Especially in this case where a specialized pump is required refill the tanks. Its a slave technology no different per se than regular firearms, whereas the former is a slave to the pump, and that latter to gun powder etc. I don't see any advantage with the airgun.

1) Most places no permit needed

2) Once you buy the pump, air is free

3) You can cast your own ammo from scrap lead with a mold. Even around a campfire like the mountain men did.

4) Some are powerful enough to shoot buffalo, boars , or bears