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Old 12-02-2008, 11:28 PM
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Default Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

I sold my last AR15 last week. The crazy high prices for a parts AR were just too tempting. I also wanted to cut down on the numbers of calibers I shoot and have a basic battery of rifles.
So with no other military style semi auto rifles in inventory(besides a Ruger Ranch in 6.8 spc) I have two other rifles to choose from as a main go to rifle. One is a Marlin 336 in 30-30 the other is a Marlin 1894 in .44 mag. The 336 holds 7 rounds of 30-30 and the Marlin 1894 holds 11 rounds of .44 magnum. Which would you pick for a long term survival rifle?
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

30/30 all the way.
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

Yep, 30-30 !

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Old 12-03-2008, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

I am thinking along the same lines and I selected the .44mag for long term survival. *My reasoning is that the .44 is the same power level but a box of 50 44mags costs the same as a box of 20 30-30's. You can also select .44 specials if you only want to hunt small game. Then of course, if you also have a .44 Mag revolver you've got the best of both worlds.

More importantly though is that the .44 is easier to reload, uses half as much powder, and it's easy to cast your own lead bullets that perform very well at max power levels. *Using my own bullets, it only costs me about 5.50$ to make a box of 50 44mags. *I've even started a project to make my own jacketed .44 mag bullets out of discarded range cases.
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

I like both the .30-30 and .44 mag as Urban Assault rifles. Depending on your mood and what you consider your maximum range, you can pick either you prefer. While I have a .44 Marlin, I have selected a 1894C Marlin .357 as my get home rifle, combined with a .357 revo and a .22 handgun.

The reason I picked a .357 is that it has adequate power, the ammo is lighter and more compact and results in a lighter load if I have to walk home. The .22 handgun is a substitute for a .22 rifle for food gathering. Here is the Army's ideas for survival food gathering:

http://www.sererescuesog.addr.com/USRSOG-Firearm.htm
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:43 PM
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More importantly though is that the .44 is easier to reload, uses half as much powder, and it's easy to cast your own lead bullets
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If You are going to toss in reloading and casting I like the 30-30 even more !
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*My reasoning is that the .44 is the same power level but a box of 50 44mags costs the same as a box of 20 30-30's. *
I'd like to buy ammo where YOU buy it!

Around here (Kentucky), a 50-round box of W-W White Box 240-grain .44 Mag's is about $29-$33/box at Wally World, a lot higher at the local gun shops. 20 rounds of Remington green & yellow box .30-30's, 150 grain, are about $8.50 a box. I wish I could find .44 Mag factory ammo at a reasonable price! I'd spend less time reloading (but that's OK, too!).

And it's a LOT cheaper to stuff your own .44 Specials. I bought a thousand rounds of Federal nickel-plated .44 Special brass from Midway on sale about 5 years ago. Still haven't used more than a hundred rounds of it, and those original cases are on their 4th or 5th loading, as of this writing.

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Well Doc, I have to fess up and say that I don't really know what .44 mags are going for right now. The .44 is one of the calibers that I starting reloading for before my first .44 gun was purchased, so I've never actually purchased store-bought for my .44's. I'm proud to say I've fed them nothing but my own handloads from day one! I can though definatively say that I reload them for only 5$ per box.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:02 PM
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Is there a portable (backpack handloader) that can be used to load in the field?
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The ubiquitous Lee Loader comes to mind:

http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/cata...leeloader.html
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I believe I am going to get a Lee loader and start loading both .44 and 30-30. Thanks for the help guys.
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:11 PM
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A great "musket load" for the .30-30 is a cast 170-ish slug over 7 gr. of Unique. Some load as high as 12 gr. but one should go by the reloading manuals. For the .44, 240 grs. over 7-15 grs. will also be a good load. Again, go by what the newest reloading manuals say and not what some bozo like me says. Don't do nuthin stoopid! ;D

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Old 12-11-2008, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

I guess I am fortunate enough in that I have both a 330 336 and a 44 1894. I tend to use the 44 mag considerablly more due to the fact I roll my own 44s and have done so for a long time.

8.5 and 10 grain Unique with a 240 grain cast SWC are by far my most common loads. I would stay away from 15 grains of Unique in a 44 mag case with a 240 grain bullet. That sounds like a mini grenade. 10 grains will more than do the job anyways.

I took this pig with 10 grains Unique and a 240 grain LaserCast SWC:

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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

Model 1894 44 magnum, Model 39 .22lr, Model 336 30-30. My only three leverguns.



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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

For meat needs I'd rather have the 30-30. I've had both and I shot more accurately with the 30-30. More deer have been killed with a 30-30 than any other load.
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I've snagged many deer with my 30-30, however in an emergency or survival situation I would go with my Marlin 1894 in 357. *It holds more rounds in the magazine and will also shoot 38s without a hitch. It wouldn't hurt to have a revolver to match. *

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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

For me the deciding factor would be my sidearm. If the sidearm I intended to use was a .44 Magnum revolver, I would go with the .44 rifle. If I was using say a 1911, I would take the .30-30.
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I've owned Marlin levers in 30-30 and .44 mag. I shot the 30-30 better, and since I'm primarily interested in meat hunting that works for me. If I need home defense, there is no deterent like jacking a shell into a 12 gauge pump. Russ
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Default Re: Marlin 336 30-30 VS Marlin 1894 .44 mag

my 2 favorate calibers,,,44 got it in rifle an carbine an pistol,very common an easy to find ammo for also i load them but i also had a contneder in 30 30...very accurate an easy to load. 30 30 got a little range,44 got a little more umph....toss a coin....huck
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I've snagged many deer with my 30-30, however in an emergency or survival situation I would go with my Marlin 1894 in 357. *It holds more rounds in the magazine and will also shoot 38s without a hitch. It wouldn't hurt to have a revolver to match. *

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