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No one can effectively attack my house from 300 yds with normal weapons.
I've made it past 60 years with no firefights so odds are in my favor.
Fascinating.

Not at all relevant to post #1 of the thread.

I would love to see the house you can't attack with a rifle from 300 yards.

City center among the high rises?
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A firearm is a tool and should be treated as such. Know your tool and respect its limitations.

Is an M-1 Carbine a first-line defensive implement? In my opinion, no. It is easily outclassed by other weapons which are commonly available.

I think its best use is as a second-line tool. By second line, I refer to spouses or children- the homeowner's reserve.

The first-line defenders of the home should have better tools. If you own an M-1 carbine and are using it as your first-line tool, consider selling it at a gun show. A USGI carbine will bring in 800 bucks, minimum. With that money, you can easily buy an AR at Wal-Mart or an AK.

If you are emotionally attached to the carbine, keep it. However, don't let emotions cloud your perception as to the tool's real-world use.

The carbine is best used as a minor portion of the defensive battery of the home.
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I would love to see the house you can't attack with a rifle from 300 yards.
You reworded what I said

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No one can effectively attack my house from 300 yds with normal weapons.
In most directions , you can't SEE my house from 300 yds

An M1 would be sufficient for most real threats, and a bolt action would be better for more distant threats, although it would be hard to call that "self defense"


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Not at all relevant to post #1 of the thread.
Neither were your comments about AR's supposed superiority, but since when has a thread ever stayed 100% "on topic"?
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Ya, know, I used to hang out here a while back....then didn't for a while....then stopped in to see what's shaking.......still snarky I see.

Y'all have a nice one.
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Ya, know, I used to hang out here a while back....then didn't for a while....then stopped in to see what's shaking.......still snarky I see.

Y'all have a nice one.
Yeah, I left for quite a while too.
Might do it again.
Self centered, know-it-all people are a waste of my time.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:40 PM
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"Snarky".... I hate that also... I can usually over look that kind of kindergarden behavior if there is other good discussion and info to view... It isn't easy at time, but doable.... Most times....

My experience behind a M1 Carbine taught me it isn't a do all, end all, nothing is I suppose.... But it can certainly be a formidable obstacle to over come.... I wouldn't want to have to face one.... Like said... Dance with the partner that suits you....

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Ya, know, I used to hang out here a while back....then didn't for a while....then stopped in to see what's shaking.......still snarky I see.

Y'all have a nice one.
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Yeah, I left for quite a while too.
Might do it again.
Self centered, know-it-all people are a waste of my time.
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"Snarky".... I hate that also... I can usually over look that kind of kindergarden behavior if there is other good discussion and info to view... It isn't easy at time, but doable.... Most times....

My experience behind a M1 Carbine taught me it isn't a do all, end all, nothing is I suppose.... But it can certainly be a formidable obstacle to over come.... I wouldn't want to have to face one.... Like said... Dance with the partner that suits you....

Keep safe
News flash for you, Gentlemen. Always, in the history of BHM this is and always has been the way the firearms forum has been conducted. Even by the likes of John Silveira, a writer for BHM, since the firearms section was ADDED.

You can also go back and find that I was AGAINST expanding hunting and fishing with a firearms board.

I still am.

Not because I am anti-gun. This is and always was about homesteading.

So, If I was in charge of moderation here. Any thread and any topic not specifically related to hunting with a firearm would be deleted.
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We really don't care.
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News Flash.
We really don't care.
Have a nice day!
Now we share something in common.
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Lets get real gentlemen, it's not about the firearm, it's about the training and the individual behind the rifle. If you were well trained in a verity of weapons and young , healthy and stealthy a blow gun would work. If your just a boob a tank wouldn't help. I would take an M-1 carbine over a sword any day.
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I still am.
And yet HERE you are
Is someone forcing you to participate in something you're "against"?

Or is it just more empty rhetoric?
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Lets get real gentlemen, it's not about the firearm, it's about the training and the individual behind the rifle. If you were well trained in a verity of weapons and young , healthy and stealthy a blow gun would work. If your just a boob a tank wouldn't help. I would take an M-1 carbine over a sword any day.
Agreed. I personally have other rifles in addition to my two M1 Carbines, but if a Carbine was all I had I would simply adjust tactics.
My truck rifle is a Winchester 30-30, and I could get along fine with that as well. That's why it's in my truck.
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Agreed. I personally have other rifles in addition to my two M1 Carbines, but if a Carbine was all I had I would simply adjust tactics.
My truck rifle is a Winchester 30-30, and I could get along fine with that as well. That's why it's in my truck.
You're missing the point of post #1.

Making the choice BEFORE the event, TSHTF, the violent act.

Of the thousands of firearms options, the OP, has chosen the M1 carbine.

Now he is asking the collective consciousness if that was a good choice.

What are the Pros and Cons.

He would like to know while there is still time to choose something else, if that were necessary.
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LOL

I think it's you who's missing the point

The OP's ONLY question was
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The FIRST thing he stated was
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I'm not an AR fan, actually not even a self loader fan when it comes to rifles. Always had good luck with bolt guns as hunting rifles and that was my preference. I actually sold every rifle I owned years ago because I just didn't see a need for them anymore.

But recently I started thinking about situations other than subsistence hunting and decided to buy a self loading rifle for security. I found an Inland carbine for a good price ($550) and I'm now learning a bit about it. I've learned to field strip it and reload for 30 carbine. It seems to shoot about 4 MOA which isn't anything compared to the rifles I had but I'm not hunting with it either. The barrel has some life left in it but it is well worn.

In the last few years I've started to be more tuned into natural disasters and social disorder or SHTF as some refer to it. I have a 1911 for a close quarters SD weapon and this carbine completes what I call my necessary requirements for security. You might say I'm living a ways back in the last century.

Anyone else using an M1 carbine as a security rifle?
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LOL

I think it's you who's missing the point

The OP's ONLY question was

The FIRST thing he stated was
Meh, which leaves thousands of other options.

Second, leaves the door open to the Question "Did I make the right choice?".

I have read it as an explanation of a choice and seeking validation of that choice.

You feel he had another motive, answer at will. Thread has been completely de-railed, tracks removed, and trains outlawed anyway.
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I have read it as an explanation of a choice and seeking validation of that choice.
I just read what he wrote, without trying to fabricate other motives

It's hard to misinterpret; "I'm NOT an AR fan"
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Trying to pick a weapon for anything is pointless unless you have a crystal ball because there is just to many unknowns. To each his own, I'm looking at those nifty little 9mm autos that you can slip into the carbine stock and turn it into a nice little rifle. At my age the enemy would laugh themselves to death
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Maybe you'd like a Marlin Camp 9? At 50 yards they'd die laughing.
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And if I shot just right the enemy couldn't breed anymore either
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You're missing the point of post #1.

Making the choice BEFORE the event, TSHTF, the violent act.

Of the thousands of firearms options, the OP, has chosen the M1 carbine.

Now he is asking the collective consciousness if that was a good choice.

What are the Pros and Cons.

He would like to know while there is still time to choose something else, if that were necessary.
So, just because his choice doesn't meet YOUR opinion it is no good?
How pompous.
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