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Old 04-04-2015, 11:47 PM
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Two farmers were arguing across the fence from each other. As they walked the fence row that divided their farms and argued they met with a man sitting on the top rail and having a smoke. One of the farmers accosted the man: "You! help me make this man see it my way." "I'm not getting into this. It's your argument, not mine" said the smoker. So the farmer said "You take my side or you are just as bad as he is!" and shoved the smoker off the fence. He landed on the ground beside the second farmer. When he got up, the smoker said to the one who pushed him: "Looks like you forced me to the opposite side from you"
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:42 PM
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It does not always require any physical contact to drive a neutral person to the opposition either!
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That's pretty much how I felt in '68. I was pushed, but our fence sitter could have just walked on and stayed with his original decision. It could have been better for everyone concerned.
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Fence sitters disgust me. Life is about making decisions. Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way, but stake out your position and don't allow yourself to be easily swayed by fancy rhetoric or sentimental blather. Above all, be able to defend your position with something besides "because" or "I was just following orders."
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Old 04-28-2015, 08:53 PM
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Fence sitters disgust me. Life is about making decisions. Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way, but stake out your position and don't allow yourself to be easily swayed by fancy rhetoric or sentimental blather. Above all, be able to defend your position with something besides "because" or "I was just following orders."
what do you think of people who enter a conflict when they have no stake in either side?
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Old 04-29-2015, 01:04 AM
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what do you think of people who enter a conflict when they have no stake in either side?
The only thought that comes to mind is "WHY?" I'm guessing that you may be referring to wars in which the US has participated and I'd like a specific example, if you don't mind. I don't believe that our military members, for the most part, ever believed that they DIDN'T have a stake in their mission....until the mission was underway or over. The military is extremely proficient at hammering home the importance of a mission and how patriotic it is to do your job.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:17 PM
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not just wars, but all levels of conflict. What do you think of the person who can't walk past two arguing coworkers without giving his opinion on it, even though the outcome will never affect him?
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not just wars, but all levels of conflict. What do you think of the person who can't walk past two arguing coworkers without giving his opinion on it, even though the outcome will never affect him?
Your question was so very vague that I gave the only answer that I could think of at the time. Given your example above, I'd simply pass by the two arguing co-workers A) unless they stopped me to ask my opinion AND B) I felt compelled to give my opinion if I knew what the devil they were arguing about. I may simply walk by them never having known what they were arguing about OR I may overhear their argument, form an opinion with regard to one side or another, but never open my mouth to espouse my position. I guess everything depends upon the circumstances. Anyone with knowledge of a subject, when asked about said subject, SHOULD have an opinion one way or the other.
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