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Old 03-15-2016, 10:59 PM
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Default "Geo Cep" US Prepper....

On another forum... There is a fictional guy know as George Cep....
(Cep = common everyday prepper)

Since no one wants to discuss there personal prepper plans/actions/supplies already in place or to do.. They list objectives George should look into...
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For instance.... The first and current scenario is Hillary is elected, By what ever means that happens doesn't matter after the fact... The general feeling is what will it take to live after that event... So... What should George Cep have accomplished before that happens, or be working on ???

For instance... Some suggestions are..
Reduce his debt.. Have his money as cash in hand, not in a bank..
Food preps... Stock pile on hand and expanding..
Health care needs taken care of..
Shelter needs adequate, and sustainable..
Transportation needs the same...
Family and self "safety" supplies and plans in place...
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You get the idea...
What would YOU suggest George have on hand or be working on ???

Facts, details, thoughts ???
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Old 03-16-2016, 10:24 AM
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Stock pile guns and ammo. Once Hillary demands no more of either then have a backup plan of archery or black powder.

Since the economy will tank again I am not sure gold and silver will be any value. Be prepared to trade and swap things.
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:41 PM
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I have read it has been suggested to George to have his money in small bills cash... I will be hard to make a $2 purchase and get change for a $100 bill..

Like said... A Maple Leaf, Krugerrand, you name it would be as hard or harder to handle because of the price of metals changing and very unfamiliar to many/most people..

Other thoughts ???
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Old 03-16-2016, 03:13 PM
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Ditto Ciderman.

Hilary is against individual freedom. George should have guns and ammo....more.
Yes, George should pay off any loans, bills, and any form of debt.
Hilary likes higher taxes. George should stock up on things he can't make or barter for, because prices will be higher for everyone.

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Old 03-16-2016, 04:31 PM
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Gold/silver will have value if the economy fails slowly over several yrs via hi taxes/more regs. Once the natl debt goes so hi that nobody will buy our bonds, then the welfare checks (& SS checks) will stop coming in the mail and nation- (even world-) -wide chaos ala' Ferguson MO or Baltimore will ensue. Then skills & useful material for barter will maintain value while commodities with arbitrary value will not.

Keep in mind that when the commercial availability of foodstuffs ends, no matter how much grub you have cached away, it will eventually run out. You will need to be able to produce your own and be able to defend it in that scenario. Ask European survivors of WWII if you need verification of that.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:06 PM
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I think that a Hildabeast election will actually be the safest scenario. A Republican president will get the rug yanked out from under him aka another GWB financial crisis or something along those lines. Blame, blame, blame. With Hildabeast it will be more along the lines of the frog in the boiling water....heat goes up a little at a time until you're cooked and didn't even know it. Neither good. Just my thoughts. Of course, all the preps you have listed are excellent and couldn't hurt in any case.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:37 PM
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Skills.

Cook tortillas over a campfire, START a campfire, raise a potato, know how to set a snare, etc.
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Skills.

Cook tortillas over a campfire, START a campfire, raise a potato, know how to set a snare, etc.

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A wide variety of basic skills in pertinent areas.

Gardening, #1.

Cooking, using basic staples

Maximizing physical health and conditioning, like through gardening.

Basic trade-skill stuff.

Skill development will also support other objectives, such as reducing debt. Gardening, reduce food costs ... trade skill stuff -- reduce maintenance costs, etc..

Hunting and Fishing skills - heck, multi winner here. Get out in the forest, improve conditioning. Get out on the lake or river, improve mental health!
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:05 AM
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Many of the thoughts posted here I agree with.

The first things that George should pay attention to are guns & ammo and reducing debt - this will likely be the first effects seen.

Then George needs to hone his homesteading skills to become as self sustainable as possible with #1 on the list would be gardening/hunting/storing real food.

There must be a lot of Georges around. I don't get out much but when I do I visit the gun shop - it's like there is a frenzy going on with purchases.
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I really agree with all of the good suggestions so far. If George lives in a big city he needs to try and get out into the suburbs at least and rural would be better. If he can't. then have a plan to get out of the city when the SHTF! He could start self educating himself on how to grow plants and identify the ones he could subsist on during his time escaping from the city when he has to bug out. Forming a group of like minded people in the city might help all involved to get out of the city safely. A good team of individuals that have practiced covert movement could probably pull it off. Try to find an ex-military member or two that has had training and it would help the group. On the Gold and Silver issue, I would opt for Silver as most people know that Silver has value and they are in small units for barter or trade. This is an interest post and I thank Wyo for starting it. I am anxious to see some of the tips.
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I think that a Hildabeast election will actually be the safest scenario. A Republican president will get the rug yanked out from under him aka another GWB financial crisis or something along those lines. Blame, blame, blame. With Hildabeast it will be more along the lines of the frog in the boiling water....heat goes up a little at a time until you're cooked and didn't even know it. Neither good. Just my thoughts. Of course, all the preps you have listed are excellent and couldn't hurt in any case.
You're right on. The only super liberal use she ever had was healthcare. Other that that she is far to the right of Obama . If he couldn't get any kind of gun control thru even when he had Both houses of congress she won't even try.
Expect more wars from her. She firmly believes in american imperialism. If her name wasn't Clinton she could be a republican.

As far as prep 1 gman is right / silver is much much more useable in an economic collapse than gold. Can anyone imagine slicing of a bit of gold small enough to buy a loaf of bread.
As far as paying debt ?? Why if the banks and the system collapses who will worry about a mortgage ? Or a credit card after those systems are gone. Spend your money on preps. If inflation goes biserk certainly pay minimums . There is a reason they always want you to refinance. When inflation is high the company is losing money. Borrowing at a rate below inflation is like an investment .

The first thing George needs to collect is knowledge .. Period.
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someone recently asked me this question...Is it possible that Trump will be elected, the brokers will choose someone else, riots will erupt between dissenters and supporters, things will get so bad that our current leader will declare martial law and stay in office?

IDK. George needs to look into Forest Farming along with the other things mentioned.
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someone recently asked me this question...Is it possible that Trump will be elected, the brokers will choose someone else, riots will erupt between dissenters and supporters, things will get so bad that our current leader will declare martial law and stay in office?

IDK. George needs to look into Forest Farming along with the other things mentioned.
This really belongs in the bottom but let's be honest about the numbers . Trump is getting 35% of the people that vote in GOP primaries that the most is only 15% of total electorate .
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This is the craziest election campaign I can ever remember. There is so much about it that makes no sense to me. When I hear the things Trump says, I can't understand why so many people like him. I know lots of folks on here like him but I honestly can't see why! I don't like any of the candidates. Why do we have to have such poor choices? sorry to get off topic. Just ignore me and carry on with George and his preps.
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To add to learning to cook from scratch, George needs to outfit his kitchen with quality cookware and supplies. Staying with cast iron and stainless steel. Stainless steel is easier to keep sanitized come SHTF as sanitation is an absolute must.
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Wildturnip, i talk to everyone i can in order to get perspective that i myself never thought of. a friend of mine who plans to vote for chump told me that people like him because he is honest, he isn't kissing up to the crowd he just says whatever comes to his head, yes it makes him look like a racist and abrasive jerk but he is honest about it.

as per what to prep, tools that don't require fuel or a power source, i have some fancy plows and cultivators for my atv but without a working atv (or gas for it) they don't do anything, my planet jr works without gas. if all the rototilling gardeners couldn't fuel their tillers their gardens would be useless.
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Ditto on that Cil.
George needs to buy quality items. Not just cookware although that is important, but everything. He may not get to buy another. Supply of many things could dry up if the economy goes from bad to worse, or the money becomes (more) worthless. Someone like Hil or another socialist will keep taxing and spending... and spending without raising taxes deflating our currency even more.

What George has on hand now may be all he will ever have.
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cas per what to prep, tools that don't require fuel or a power source
This is a good point. We still have all our tools/gear from when we lived off grid. We will be just as comfortable and entertained without power which will likely be the first part of any infrastructure to fail.
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Balance.... To me, this is a key word.. A for instance would be, stainless as well as cast iron pans, more than one way to cook..
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Another thought on tools... To me there are several categories of tools.. All hand powered..

Pioneer tools... Shovel, rake, tile spade, hay manure forks etc...

Hand tools.. Hand saws, hammers, brace and bits.. Now this detail..
Along with hand powered hole making tools... A good supply of fasteners..

Nails, screws, bolts, nuts, washers, different sizes and lengths of all thread rod.. You may not be able to run to town for one more bolt to finish that project.. KnowwhatImean...

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All of the above and:
A reliable source of water
medicines
heirloom garden seeds
how to reference books
solar cooker/oven
solar panels and storage batteries
source to make fire, matches, lighters, magnesium rods etc.
barter goods - ammo probably better than silver/gold
tarps
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recommend reading "One Second After" by William Forstchen and
"Patriots" by James Wesley Rawles

Both are fiction but portray realistic scenarios and give food for thought.
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