{"id":3715,"date":"2016-05-18T00:05:36","date_gmt":"2016-05-18T04:05:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/?p=3715"},"modified":"2016-05-18T00:05:36","modified_gmt":"2016-05-18T04:05:36","slug":"sighting-in-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/sighting-in-2\/","title":{"rendered":"SIGHTING IN"},"content":{"rendered":"

While deer season is the traditional time for sighting in, and that\u2019s a ways off from now, it\u2019s never too early to get things nailed down. Besides, self-defense knows no season, and the protection guns should always be sighted in, if only for verification. Something bumps the gun, eyesight changes\u2026ya never know, so it\u2019s best to be currently sure.<\/p>\n

\"GlockWeb\"<\/a>I had two guns to select and sight in last Sunday. For an upcoming class, significant other\u2019s 19-year-old grandson will be attending, and needs us to bring a handgun for him. He asked for a Glock 9mm, and it seemed logical to select one of the three I had earned recently at matches.<\/p>\n

Only one had already been sighted in, a 4th<\/sup> generation Glock 17, which I\u2019d had fitted with Trijicon night sights. It had been dialed in with the three glowing green globes in alignment, but we wanted the kid to learn a conventional post in notch sight picture, and with that it hit a tad right. (LESSON<\/strong>: Dots, fiber optic modules, and conventional sight pictures don\u2019t always send the bullets to the same point of aim\/point of impact coordinates.)\u00a0 Group size was a bit under three inches.<\/p>\n

Next up was a 3rd<\/sup> generation specimen of the same pistol, just in. The 115 grain American Eagle full metal jacket training ammo put five shots exactly into an inch and a half, the best three half an inch apart center to center, but the group hovered a tiny bit to the left of point of aim. Finally, I tried a likewise new from the box Gen 3 Glock 19, the slightly smaller version of the 17. The group ran 3.65\u201d.\u00a0 I let the Evil Princess decide, since it\u2019s her <\/em>grandson. She chose the Gen3 G17.\u00a0 There\u2019s enough difference between two shooters\u2019 eyes that what\u2019s off for me might be spot on for him, and if it\u2019s not, it\u2019ll be no trick to push the rear sight a whisker to starboard.<\/p>\n

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\"1911Web\"<\/a>The other thing I needed to sort out was the gun to wear on our next trip after this one, which will encompass a state with a strict ten-round magazine limit, so I decided I\u2019d take a 1911 .45 with single-stack mag. Two that I pulled from the safe were Springfield Armory guns. One was a TGO-II match pistol I\u2019d just gotten back from a friend, who\u2019d borrowed it as a spare to his twin of it for a major match. (His ran fine and he didn\u2019t need the spare.) He told me he\u2019d adjusted the sights some, and sure enough, at 15 yards the group averaged two inches left for me. Fortunately, that\u2019s easy to fix with adjustable sights. I was happy with the 1.70\u201d group, three of them touching. REDUNDANT LESSON<\/strong>: What\u2019s \u201csighted in\u201d for one shooter\u2019s eyes, may not be for another. A much less expensive .45 from the same maker \u2013 the Springfield Range Officer, which I consider the best buy in an all-around 1911 pistol today — ran 3.45\u201d and a compact Nighthawk Custom T3, 3.70\u201d. There were \u201ccalled flyers\u201d with both of the latter that expanded the groups: I caught myself starting to look over the sights to spot the shot with the Nighthawk, causing a predictably high hit I can\u2019t blame on the gun, and with the Range Officer, I felt myself rush the shot that went lowest.<\/p>\n

On that last set, since I\u2019ve got time, I\u2019ll give \u2018em another run before the next trip. LESSON<\/strong>: The sooner you start sorting and sighting, the more time you have to get things right.<\/p>\n

All those .45s, I know for certain from testing, will group two inches or better at 25 yards with the ammo they like best, from a bench rest. I wouldn\u2019t be surprised if all those Glocks shoot better from the bench at that distance than I did here, shooting offhand from 15 yards.\u00a0 LESSON<\/strong>: The bench rest is used intentionally to test the GUN more than the shooter. When I demonstrate for a class (or lend a gun to a student shooting that class), I want to know what the gun will do from the human hand, and in these upcoming classes the 15 yards I shot these at will be the farthest distance. LESSON<\/strong>: Once you\u2019ve tested the gun, test the shooter with <\/em>that gun, at a predictable distance. If testing for another shooter, test it the same way he or she is likely to be shooting it.<\/p>\n

I suspect y\u2019all out there have also learned some lessons about sighting in and verifying point of aim\/point of impact. Feel free to share here.<\/p>\n

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While deer season is the traditional time for sighting in, and that\u2019s a ways off from now, it\u2019s never too early to get things nailed down. Besides, self-defense knows no season, and the protection guns should always be sighted in, if only for verification. Something bumps the gun, eyesight changes\u2026ya never know, so it\u2019s best […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":6428,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,11],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-3715","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-firearms","8":"category-preparedness"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3715","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3715"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3715\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6428"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3715"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3715"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.backwoodshome.com\/blogs\/MassadAyoob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3715"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}