Those bare shelves are a symptom of our idiocracy. I’m really sick of that not-prepping-then-ranting (about lack of goods) mentality, and that includes my own family in NY, who I questioned the day before the storm hit. The answers I got were laughable, that is, if they weren’t so pathetic, and then of course was the predictable after-ranting. I almost hung up on one of them.
I posted that article about suspicionless border searches on FB, and I got a lib ranting over the illegal immigration issue. When I replied that the article wasn’t about illegal immigration, but about violating the fourth amendment, (duh) I got the usual deer-in-the-headlights silence. Then I remembered what you said about not bothering to talk to furniture, and I deleted the post.
The gun-nut photo of Kent State shooting got to me the first time, and it gets to me again now. Though the first time was somewhat worse -Obama was pointing toward the students, not away from them in the scene. But Kent State was one of those pics that live in my memory, and was a real a-ha moment concerning who was the true enemy.
Those store shelves are too much to think about. How much stupidity exists in America??? Anyone??? Like Sandy, these morons pretty much had a week to prepare. Naturally they waited until the last moment.
Jim B. Look at the current state of the art in 3D printed mags as disposable, easily replaceable, feeding devices. Use em up and print more. Eventually they will get good enough to meet your standards, Making the metal springs is easy. Get the appropriate size music wire. Make (or print) a mandrel to wind the spring on and you are good to go. After a little experimenting you could turn them out by hand in wholesale lots. When your disposable mag is used up salvage the spring or just make a new one for a few cents.
I really don’t get why so many gun people are so down on 3d printing. Sheesh! It’s an emerging technology. Wait a few minutes, it’ll get better.
I hadn’t considered Oreos, bottled cappuccino, and piss beer as part of my survival stash. I must be missing something. OTOH, if it’s possible to survive for a week or so on a variety of canned vegetables, canned meat, peanut butter, cheese, and dried potatos, I’m doing OK.
At the moment, the point of the 3D printed magazines is political, not practical. If I were doing it for actual use, I’d design it for attaching metal feed lips at the top, or as something which could convert a 10-rd mag to higher capacity. Spring wire isn’t hard to come by.
Wake me when those 3-D printers can produce those gun mags in hard plastics or polymers tough enough to go through several hundred thousands, if not at least a couple millions, rounds going through.
“Look at the current state of the art in 3D printed mags as disposable, easily replaceable, feeding devices. Use em up and print more”
What Woody said.
Think single-use plastic watter bottles, not Magpul P-mags. When you can create an unlimited number of standard capacity magazines on demand — let’s even make them eco-friendly bio-degradable — how many rounds do they really need to last?
I doubt U.S. troops in World War II went scouring the beaches of Normandy and Bastogne for the 8-round clips ejected from their Garands. If it would have been cheaper to make those clips only durable enough to use once, it would have been done.
And today’s military already considers the M-16 magazine a Class IX disposable/expendable item. They’re cheap pieces of aluminum. They’re not designed to last hundreds of thousands of rounds, much less millions. Hell, even the M-16 itself isn’t designed to last that long without major overhaul.
Todd Greene, of pistol-training.com, once wrote that (scroll down to comments)
The generally accepted number in the gun industry, based on various surveys of gun-buyers over the years, is that on average, a handgun purchased in the United States will be fired less than 50 times. For every internet poster who own ten guns that have each been fired 1,000 times, there are dozens and dozens of people who walked into a gun shop, purchased a pistol and a box of ammo, and never once took that gun to a range. Those people, obviously, don’t read and post on forums and gun blogs.
Ask anyone who’s worked at a gun shop and I guarantee they’ve had customers complain about having to buy A WHOLE BOX of ammo when the gun only holds 15 (or 8, or whatever).
When I worked at SIG, there was serious discussion about producing a pistol that came PRE LOADED with 15rd in a non-removable mag. The gun could be made of very cheap material because it only had to survive 15 rounds of fire. It was rejected on technical capability grounds, not because there would be a lack of demand.
We will soon be at the point where it will be technically possiblefor anybody to make such a gun at home.
I know the tech will eventually “be there”. The materials needed to make the mags in the first place is still weak and most likely fast wearing. Just need to
upgrade to use more than one kind of plastic. But in the meantime we can “practice” so we know what to do once those tech and materials finally becomes good enough.
I bought a large, clunky electronic calculator in the early days. I think it cost nearly $60. and did absolutely nothing except the three basic arithmetic functions. It did happen to do those VERY well.
Fast forward to the amazing universe of small, accurate, and very cheap gadgets that can so almost everything but eat and sleep for you now.
If nobody had bought the clunky prototypes, we wouldn’t have that universe of wonders to use today.