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Living Freedom by Claire Wolfe. Musings about personal freedom and finding it within ourselves.

Want to Comment on a blog post? Look for and click on the blue No Comments or # Comments at the end of each post.



Claire Wolfe

America’s UberGovernment. And the rest of us.

Tuesday, August 6th, 2013

The last few days I’ve been doing physical labor, spending time in the sunshine, painting rooms — and thinking about America’s UberGovernment.

It’s dawning on a lot more people that a government run by secret spymasters is illigitmate even by the most conventional, mainstream standards. Among freedomistas, even those like the folks at DownsizeDC — who are usually pretty polite, mainstream, and hopeful of working within the system — are talking last straws.

Edward Snowden’s revelations of the NSA were a shock, though not a surprise. Now this week they’re followed by news of DEA operations that are top secret — but obviously, no doubt about it, are the result of collusion between the DEA and the NSA (“We’re only spying on you so we can keep you safe from brown-skinned furriners with scary religions, really!”). And these operations are resulting in arrest, asset forfeiture, and sometimes decades in prison for Americans.

And in another non-surprise, old-news revelation, Glenn Greenwald is now reporting that members of Congress — you know, those experts who were so diligently overseeing all those secret spy programs, bravely protecting our interests and Our Glorious Constituion — can’t even get information on the NSA or its bosom pal the FISA court no matter how much they rant or beg.

So yes. You’d have to be naive in the extreme to believe that a huge, secret level of government that answers to no one is a legitimate democratic-or-republican government. This country is now governed by an UberGoverment — Secrecy uber Alles.

Control uber Alles.

It’s also nothing new that Congress long ago lost authority over most of the unaccountable bureaucratic creatures it created, from the IRS to farm subsidy programs to ObamaPhones for the poor. The only thing that’s changed is that now Congress has lost power to a gigantic “security” apparatus that suspects and investigates everyone, makes war from the air on individuals (it still boggles my mind that more people aren’t boggled that drone warfare is conducted by the CIA and not the Pentagon), has U.S. citizens arrested and assassinated, and is accountable to absolutely no “of the people” authority whatsoever.

You know what this is. I know what this is. We have several ugly words for it that we onced used only about the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and the dreary gray Eastern Bloc cold-war Europe.

This won’t end well. This never ends well. There is no “within the system” way to rid ourselves of this vast deadly parasite, the UberGovernment of the United States of America.

—–

But then … in some ways, that makes things easier for us.

Oh, no. We’re not all going to gallop off on pink unicorns tomorrow. That’s for sure. I said “easier,” not “easy.”

But knowing that the actual government of the U.S. is beyond our reach (yeah, writing a letter giving your opnion to the CIA or NSA would be even more laughable than the standard ‘write to your representative NOW!’) means we can focus more effectively. Means we can do things that work. Or at least quit doing things that only raise our blood pressure.

We can get a lot more done now. We’re likely to have a lot more people getting things done with us. Ultimately. Maybe not yet. But in the long run.

—-

The other day Mike Vanderboegh lit into Josh Horwitz, who had lit into those those like Mike, who Horwitz considers “insurrectionists.” Well, when it comes to freedom, I’d be happy to stand beside (or … er, maybe a few steps behind) the Dutchman.

But, sorry, we — meaning most of my friends, the blog Commentariat, several of my publishers, the gunblogosphere, and a growing number of ordinary worried folks — are not the ones conducting an insurrection. No, you folks in Washington, DC, and those creepy suburbs of yours in Virginia and Maryland, you’re the ones who’ve already “insurrected.” Your type of insurrection would be called a coup, except that many of those you overthrew happily handed their power off to you voluntarily — “progressives” cheering for bigger government and “conservatives” cheering for … oh yeah, bigger government, as long as it’s of the warmaking sort — while both voted to give you more and more and more until you’re now the boss of them.

But in declaring your right to spy on, arrest, and even murder us — not those irresponsible egomaniacs in Congress, but we the proverbial people who remember that the word “freedom” actually means something — you’ve … well, guys, you’ve lost some friends. And you’re going to lose more.

And of course the more who turn against you, the better excuse you have for cracking down — and demanding bigger budgets, bigger buildings, bigger databases, more drone power, etc. etc etc. Not to mention issuing more and more scaaarrrrry (but eternally vague) reports about wreckers and saboteurs (oh, sorry, I mean terrorists) and perhaps pulling off a few more false-flag ops to keep the rabble in line.

Until one day you are as powerful as … well, who can even imagine, because you’ll have more powers than those pikers in Moscow or East Berlin ever dreamed.

But that goes only so far. Keep that up for a few years and one day you’ve got no friends left at all. And then you’re surrounded. By us. And by millions more who never thought they’d be at such a point in all their lifetimes.

But remember: you started it. We didn’t. We wouldn’t. We’re better than that. But once you’ve weakened yourself with your own voracious secret keeping, your gluttony for data, your excesses in the cause of Control — we will damn well finish you.

52 Responses to “America’s UberGovernment. And the rest of us.”

  1. Bill St. Clair Says:

    Remember, America already had a revolution within the form, a communist coup, back in FDR’s time: http://mises.org/daily/2726 . It’s finally becoming visible to everybody.

  2. Paul Bonneau Says:

    [But then … in some ways, that makes things easier for us.]

    Ah, yes. It’s good when one’s opponents are so vile.

    [we will damn well finish you]

    That is one possible solution, but there are others. I once wrote about a 50-state secession:
    http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2008/tle485-20080921-03.html

    Maybe we shouldn’t talk about secession, but rather eviction. Lots easier. Just kick the District of Criminals out of the country. Who would be sorry to see it go? And since they are such fans of trade embargoes, we’d naturally apply one to them. Maybe Saudi Arabia can supply them, heh.

  3. Joel Says:

    Why do you hate America and want the terrorists to win, Claire?

  4. LarryA Says:

    [But then … in some ways, that makes things easier for us.]

    Writer’s quibble: I think the word you’re looking for is “makes things simpler for us.”

    There’s a world of difference between “simple” and “easy.”

  5. IndividualAudienceMemeber Says:

    I just can’t see how it, “makes things simpler for us.”

    Seems to me, it’s somewhere between “simple” and “easy.”

    That spot would be, easier.

    Which means: it’s still hard, and might get complicated, or difficult.

    Could it be simple to Abolish Your Local Police?

    http://www.freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2013/08/abolish-your-local-police.html

    Such does not seem like an easy thing.

    I don’t know, I’m not a writer and I don’t play one on TV. I’m just a serf living under an UberGovernment while it seems like I’m surrounded by people acting like Pod People.

  6. Jim Klein Says:

    Well done, Claire. You got the finger on the pulse. Joel, was that a serious question? I figure it couldn’t have been; must be an inside joke.

    “and a growing number of ordinary worried folks”

    Bingo. That’s what turns this into a WIN. They still don’t understand, not at all, but luckily it ain’t rocket science. People will do terrible things when they’re hungry, but some will turn to their minds.

  7. Jim B. Says:

    I just hope they don’t get outside help. That the other countries would be wise enough to stay out of what is an internal affair of our country. If they get involved, especially on the wrong side, we’d remember.

    I’ve a feeling that this conflict will become a “Paradigm Shift” war, that if we lose then everyone loses, however if we win then everything changes, even more so than the original Revolution did.

  8. Speaker Says:

    Dear Claire,

    It has been several years since we were at loggerheads. Now it seems that we are closer together in terms of goals and policies. I am sorry for the reasons, while glad for this part of the results.

    As then, I believe that Fifth Generation War strategy is the best way to minimize the destruction to innocent people and assure a swift and just outcome for the conflict. If there is a better way, may it be found soon.

    Good luck to us all, and good hunting.

    All the Best

  9. Karen Says:

    “It’s dawning on a lot more people …”
    I had a weird encounter yesterday. I was in the city with a friend for a girl’s day of lunch and shopping. In Big Lots, checking out, the cashier went off on an anti government/pro gun self sufficiency rant. She was probably about 22.

    Nothing about my appearance would have provoked it(non descript 62 yr old white woman here). Nothing I said provoked it. Nothing about my purchases provoked it(no massive hoarding stock up or odd “survivalist” items). She just clearly was having her own personal revelation that she needed to share to anyone who’d listen.

    I’m still not sure if I’m disturbed by someone so young being so jaded, or delighted that someone that young gets it. I just hope that she might get someone thinking if that’s her normal checkout conversation.

  10. Pat Says:

    Not “jaded”, Karen – just waking up.

    I remember when I did, and was very unhappy to discover I was starting to get cynical – it’s not in my nature ordinarily. But as they say, once you discover the truth, you can’t undo the knowledge. First comes anger, then (maybe) understanding and determination.

    I only hope she doesn’t speak out to the wrong person, she could get in trouble with the “speech nanny”.

  11. Woody Says:

    Had dinner at a friend’s house yesterday. There was a woman present who is not in my usual circle of friends extolling the benefits of the DHS. I guess I have been hanging out with my tribe to the exclusion of everybody else because it shocked me to hear it. I’m afraid my reaction was not what she was expecting. It reminded me that there are lots (probably a wide majority) of people who believe the propaganda about the government keeping us safe.

    I can’t manage to share your optimism, or convince myself that freedomistas will likely prevail against the statists. Those who believe our government is good and benevolent are getting what they deserve. Unfortunately we are also getting what they deserve.

  12. Pre-press veteran Says:

    I agree, Claire. THEY started it.
    And there are levels to anger – sort of like the steps in the grieving process.

    Those just waking up are angry that they didn’t see this sooner. And the age they’re waking up is younger and younger all the time. My 30-something kids all know… even the ones with good jobs are more worried than I’ve ever seen them. And their friends all know. Most of them are most affected by the economic circus and illusion… and it’s getting BAD for young folks.

    I’ve got my lists back out again. I’ve got all my skill-hats out again, too. It’s time to scramble together some what-ifs… and some plans for those what-ifs… and look at them while wearing some of those hats.

  13. ILtim Says:

    If I wanted to >do something< about any of this, today, I have exactly what options? None. Nothing. Nada. The best I can do is either A) Leave the country, or B) Lie low. Any other actions at this point will end my life. Either I take it too far and actually become a wacko shooting up or bombing some public place, or I could be targeted in any number of ways until my undesired actions cease. Harassed, arrested, toyed with endlessly like the bloke in MA whose home was raided and guns confiscated, or the chap who wanted to make some harebrained march on DC and was arrested. Or maybe like those damned dangerous do gooders who had a wild baby deer dumped on them and made lawful arrangements for its care, and got to live through their own personal military strike.

    Nope, nothing. No fighting this. Flee or lie low.

    And lying low is an insidious oppression.

  14. Matt, another Says:

    If the security apparatus is in control, then one must ask whom are they working for? If they were just working to maintain their budgets, status and priviledges then they wouldn’t need to be so pervasive. If they were working just to oppress the voters that might not by into the media propaganda they wouldn’t need to be so pervasive. Hmmm, since it has been decided they don’t work for the government, they certainly don’t work for me and you, who are they working for?

    The CIA conducts the drone strikes because the U.S. Army would be subject to public scrutiny and world court review for committing war crimes. The CIA being part of the hidden security apparatus does not have that requirement.

  15. just waiting Says:

    On the brighter side, every day our ranks get bigger while theirs’ grows smaller as more and more people become disillusioned. There are so many who have lost their homes, lost their jobs, lost their hope for the future, when they finally turn to us, we’ll be in the majority.

    Even my 80 year old father, who has lived his life in faithful submission to the government, never once questioning their actions or wisdom, is starting to wonder what happened to the America he knew as a child. He’s beginning to wonder if maybe his outlaw freedomista son did have it right all these years, and that gov no longer represents the people, has overstepped is authority and is no longer an entity to be obeyed. At 80, his world view is coming crumbling down.

    Ayn Rand showed us how their minds work when she wrote in AS: “there is no way to disarm any man, except through guilt…If there’s not enough guilt in the world, we must create it. If we teach a man that its evil to look at spring flowers and he believes us and then does it-we’ll be able to do whatever we please with him. He won’t defend himself… But save us from the man who lives up to his own standards. Save us from the man of clean conscious. He’s the man who’ll beat us”

  16. Claire Says:

    For the record, Speaker, we are still not that close in what we advocate. The times are surely growing more desperate, however.

  17. Laird Says:

    Sounds like Claire no longer thinks we are at that “awkward stage”. I think she’s right. Unfortunately, so is ILtim. Time to ratchet up the monkeywrenching, I guess.

  18. Jim Klein Says:

    “Just kick the District of Criminals out of the country. Who would be sorry to see it go?”

    Uh…the people to whom they send checks?

  19. Paul Bonneau Says:

    [I just hope they don’t get outside help. That the other countries would be wise enough to stay out of what is an internal affair of our country.]

    No worries, mate. When this country goes down, they all go down, because they are all plugged into the same system.

    [...the cashier went off on an anti government/pro gun self sufficiency rant.]

    Yeah, I hear this all the time too. It’s insufficient if such people are 0.1% of the population, but when it’s hitting 10% or 20%, as I think it is, the “narrative” is done for.

    [I only hope she doesn’t speak out to the wrong person, she could get in trouble with the “speech nanny”.]

    There is safety in numbers, and there are a lot of numbers these days.

    [Those who believe our government is good and benevolent are getting what they deserve. Unfortunately we are also getting what they deserve.]

    Every life comes with a death sentence, as someone said, but there are levels of survival. With a little preparation, you don’t have to join a mob fighting over a little discarded food from a dumpster.

    [Or maybe like those damned dangerous do gooders who had a wild baby deer dumped on them and made lawful arrangements for its care, and got to live through their own personal military strike.]

    Sampling error. Even though those particular do gooders suffered a raid, does not mean every person who takes care of Bambi suffers one. I wrote about this phenomenon:
    http://strike-the-root.com/optimum-level-of-violence
    The rulers apply a little bit of violence, publicize it, and then depend on self-enforcement through fear to do the rest. Their model does not work without self-enforcement. It’s our own minds we have to watch out for.

    [If the security apparatus is in control, then one must ask whom are they working for? If they were just working to maintain their budgets, status and priviledges then they wouldn’t need to be so pervasive.]

    The bureaucratic imperative. Bureaucracies always expand. Even the ruling class is not in complete control of it.

  20. Kevin Wilmeth Says:

    Somehow this seemed appropriate to Claire’s thoughts here: Larken Rose’s classic The Tiny Dot.

  21. Kevin Wilmeth Says:

    Grr. Let’s try this differently. Maybe the comment function is no longer accepting anchor link markup.

    “The Tiny Dot” is here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs

    Profuse apologies for the traffic, Claire. :-(

  22. Paul Bonneau Says:

    Found a great quote on the subject of self-enforcement:

    “The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.”
    — Steve Biko

  23. Claire Says:

    Kevin — I believe a new version of WordPress was just installed. It does some things better, but obviously totally screwed up your attempts to link (and in a way that made NO sense at all). Dunno what’s up, but I suspect a bug fix is in order. In any case, I removed the screwed-up comments & apologize for your trouble.

  24. Claire Says:

    Laird — FWIW, I’ve thought for a long time that we’ve reached the point where it would be moral to shoot the usurpers — just not wise or practical to do so. I still think we’re still at that “awkward stage,” but definitely closer to the other side of it than when I first blurted The Infamous Remark.

    Back when I wrote that, the U.S. wasn’t torturing people (and calling it non-torture), indefinitely “detaining” them, or casually assassinating anybody it deemed a “terrorist.” While we certainly supposed back then that surveillance was becoming near universal, we didn’t know — and surely didn’t know that we’d soon have a Homeland (Achtung!) Security state (even though plans for it were in the works long before those 19 useful idiots gave the neocons their perfect excuse in 2001).

    I guess I’d say that the U.S. security state has definitely declared war on the people — on all of us. It’s just not clear what the best strategies for response are.

  25. Bustednuckles Says:

    http://bustednuckles.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-quote-of-this-century.html

  26. ENthePeasant Says:

    “I believe that Fifth Generation War strategy is the best way to minimize the destruction to innocent people and assure a swift and just outcome for the conflict.”

    Not really a believer in the so-called 5th GW. I know certain people are making a well reasoned case but it’s a joke to say that the hugely incompetent government in Nigeria is being undermined by a 5th GW opponent. It’s like undermining Anthony Wiener. Go ahead if you will, but he’s gonna get there all on his own and fighting him might even gain him some sympathy from that interesting 65% of White women who just love themselves a tyrant.

    This may seem a little esoteric and OT, but I don’t think it is. Had a conversation with a high ranking retired Army officer a few days ago. He’s a van Creveld (very Libertarian Israeli defense expert) disciple and insists that the Euro health care system that Obama says he’s trying to copy was only successful because those countries don’t have an armed forces to speak of. Even at the height of Russian aggressiveness in the 1979 the Europeans with the exception of Germany were cutting defense spending. What made that possible was the armed forces of the United States. The Brits have done the same thing almost every year even though they’ve been deploying troops to all our shitty little wars. Today the SecDef Chuck Hagel remarked that the Army would probably be cut in half soon. This officer’s point was that government health care sucks the life right out of a country. After they get done with defense they’re forced to move on to something else. Brit defense writer John Keegan has warned for years that when the treasury runs dry, the military exits, and general lawlessness, revolution and pirates arise. Exciting times.

  27. Tom Blanton Says:

    Actually, there is a way to fix some of the problems of Amerika by working within the system for those who actually do work within the system (employees of the government). That would be to actually dismantle physically the machinery that enables the system to operate – the computers.

    Unfortunately, most people earning relatively high wages with cushy benefits and retirement plans aren’t highly motivated to give it all up just to shut down a fascist police state. After all, they are only following orders.

  28. LibertyNews Says:

    Shrug.

  29. Mt Top Patriot Says:

    The illegitimacy of our government is a beautiful thing. If for no reason but it places doubt about the power of the Leviathan, especially doubt about the power those who rule us posses.

    The truth of this is a revolutionary idea in more ways than one.

  30. DeWalt Says:

    I hope I can comment without being declared the enemy peremptorily.
    What makes this bad for me is because of the fed LEO’s and some state people, many I the public are drawing a target on my back that I do not deserve. You see I am a sheriffs deputy in a rural Fl. county. Hear everyone down to the Sheriff is sick with what is going on. Does the fed spying have connection to us? Yes because our information systems are tied to theirs. It is how this information is used that sets us worlds apart. I still beleive my job 1 is as public servant and that their are still many who cannot defend themselves. There are very evil characters in this world and your local peace officers are your front line. I’m just trying to say please keep in mind there are still alot of goodguys that will stand with you in a heartbeat in public service. It is a tough job, not all coffee and doughnuts. Thanks for hearing me out.

  31. Pat Says:

    DeWalt – I DO believe there are some “peace officers” around – some in my own County whom I know personally. But somehow we never hear about any doing “peace” work.

    “I’m just trying to say please keep in mind there are still alot of goodguys that will stand with you in a heartbeat in public service.”

    Does this mean if/when a war started, you would stand with, e.g. the Oathkeepers against fellow officers or the military? You would have to hang up your badge to do so. Would you be willing to do that? Which “public service” would you back up?

    I’m not interested in a debate. I’m just asking for you to think about this…

  32. Mt Top Patriot Says:

    Bravo Claire, Bravo!

    You go Brave Lady!

    There is true grit for you.
    Courage.
    Bravery.

    What you wrote here dear Lady, well, I’m already an insurrectionist by the very nature of my belief in Liberty. Just knowing without doubt, in my heart, what you stated is God’s honest truth. You can say I’m naturally born into it, being an insurrectionist, for a cause that is true, which is a lot more than you can say about the treasonous usurper occupying the oval office.
    And you know what?
    Like Claire says, up their arses!
    Every damned one of the domestic enemies of this here Republic, enemies of our Freedom.

    Lets Win!

  33. Jim Klein Says:

    DeWalt, that was a very nice comment; thanks.

    I feel like saying, “Welcome to the club.” You see, it’s that way for lots and lots of non-LEOs—a target on the back that’s not deserved.

    It’s wrong for one; it’s wrong for the other. There are nothing but individuals out there. We’re each responsible for each of our actions, including the groups with which we choose to associate.

    Peace Officer sounds like a wonderful job description. From what I see lately, Lawman seems to be on the wane in popularity.

  34. DeWalt Says:

    Pat
    Rest assured I am well grounded on what I will need to do. As for throwing the badge only depends on the Sheriff’s actions. As far as state and Federal I hold no allegiance to them outside the Constitution. My roots are deep here and I will not abandon my county to anarchist.

  35. katiej Says:

    thank you Dewalt, for your comments. I agree with you that many LEO are not the enemy. I enjoy reading Claire’s blog but it is a scary one to comment on as I can tell many have strong opinions. I can certainly see the concern re the drones, NSO, computer data mining, etc. Its good to read the ideas for dealing with those issues but I’m not sure the type of resistance I read about here is what’s necessary. Maybe that makes me one of the enemy! (I work, pay taxes, etc but Do get my social security and medicare- is that wrong??) Don’t yell everyone!!

  36. Carl Stevenson Says:

    Well said Claire! That awkward time you once wrote of is rapidly coming to an end, isn’t it?

  37. Claire Says:

    DeWalt and katiej — I’d be very disappointed if you guys got yelled at. If freedom isn’t a “big tent” then it’s not what it’s cracked up to be.

    DeWalt — I’ve said many times that I like and respect most of the cops in my area (though I disagree vehemently with the way they keep busting my harmless neighbors for the sake of the drug war). You are welcome here.

    katiej — Don’t know how long you’ve been around the blog, but do a search on “Freedom Outlaw” if you’re not already familiar with the term. Bottom line: there’s room for all kinds of freedomista techniques.

  38. Kent McManigal Says:

    DeWalt- As an avowed anarchist I can promise you that I am also not “The Enemy”. I simply recognize that no one has the “right” or “authority” to run other people’s lives or take their property against their will. That’s all.

    “Your” county would be much better off being “abandoned” to anarchists than being ruled by tax parasites in “public office” and the LEOs whom they control. If that last bit doesn’t describe you, then congratulations- you are not part of the problem.
    But remember next time you “arrest” someone for violating a counterfeit “law” that you are doing wrong. Actions like that are what makes you the enemy of all who love liberty, IF you find that they do treat you as their enemy. The liberty lovers are not the ones who need to change. They are not the ones doing wrong. Not by smoking pot or by making “meth”; not by carrying a gun where the “law” says they can’t; not by refusing to wear a seat belt or by driving faster than the “law” allows (but still safely); not by refusing to submit to theft (“taxes”); not by resisting “arrest”; and not by any other “illegal” acts that harm no other person or their property non-consensually.

    If you still do (or support or refuse to stop LEOs who do) any of those things, it might explain why liberty lovers haven’t welcomed you with open arms. If you don’t violate liberty in any of those ways, then you might want to make that fact known to all the liberty lovers so that they will know you are on the right side. If you can’t do the right thing and keep your job, that might be telling you something.

  39. katiej Says:

    Thank you Kent McManigal for you explanations. I have to disagree with some of what you say, tho. Meth is not a victimless activity. If you’ve ever seen someone high on it in an Emergency Room, its apparent how paranoid, wild, and strong they can be. That’s harmful to everyone around and LEO are needed then. And its harmful to others when the stealing needed is done to support the habit. Ditto with the seatbelt thing. If you refuse to wear one and are involved in an accident (even when driving safely), you might be the only one harmed but…your loss or injury is felt be those who care about you, someone has to clean up the mess (ask any LEO how much fun that is), and if you don’t die, your care may need to to be absorbed by taxpayers for many years in a nursing home. I believe there ARE needed laws and taxes, even for people who value freedom.

  40. Jim Klein Says:

    Katiej, in grammar that’s called the subjunctive…the imagination of that which is not in evidence. If you start punishing people for what you “figure” they’re gonna do, even reasonably so, then the system is open to all sorts of mayhem. Maybe you’re wearing the wrong clothes, or visiting the wrong websites, or believe in the wrong God, or whatever. How in the world shall such “crimes” be determined? And more importantly, WHO shall determine them?

    No, a crime is ONLY a PHYSICAL action…the physical abridgement of another person’s right to his own life, to do what he decides. If he doesn’t allow that of others, then he must be stopped. But “figurin'” that he’s going to do that, just doesn’t cut it. Really, this is the crux of it…

    “I believe there ARE needed laws and taxes, even for people who value freedom.”

    Okay, that’s cool. But what shall you do about Kent, who doesn’t believe that? Shall you cage or kill him because of his beliefs? What possible sort of righteousness could you dig up, to justify such an action? You own you, and Kent owns Kent. Either you coexist on the planet peacefully, or one of you has got to go.

    None of this is rocket science. Either people can live peaceably with one another, or they can’t. Kent says forthrightly that he wishes to live his life and seeks nothing from you that you don’t voluntarily give him. What more could anyone ask from another human being?

  41. Paul Bonneau Says:

    [...many in the public are drawing a target on my back that I do not deserve. You see I am a sheriffs deputy in a rural Fl. county. Hear everyone down to the Sheriff is sick with what is going on. Does the fed spying have connection to us? Yes because our information systems are tied to theirs. It is how this information is used that sets us worlds apart.]

    DeWalt, I’m glad you are here, but some things you say I have to question. If you are enforcing laws against “mala prohibita”, then you are not worlds apart from the federal agencies. The difference is only a matter of degree, not of kind.

    [I still beleive my job 1 is as public servant and that their are still many who cannot defend themselves.]

    Servants do not tell masters what to do. Please try to lose the euphemisms that the state puts out there to justify their aggression against us. It’s better to speak plainly and honestly; that way communication is enhanced.

    As to the other thing, I dispute that also. Virtually everyone is capable of getting and using a firearm; that is why personal firearms are such a revolutionary technology. One might instead say that some people CHOOSE not to defend themselves. That is their choice, and I do not argue with it. I only object when the consequences of that choice are put on me, rather than on only those who choose it. I do not believe the state or police are needed, and I do not want them. This does not mean some voluntary, free market security organizations would not be useful.

    [There are very evil characters in this world and your local peace officers are your front line. I’m just trying to say please keep in mind there are still alot of goodguys that will stand with you in a heartbeat in public service.]

    As in Katrina? As in the cops milling about outside the Columbine school while the killers inside went about their business? I think this factor you speak of may be a bit overrated. But I do not condemn cops for acting as any human being would act. We all act in our perceived self-interest. I’m just a bit leery of justifications for aggressive behavior.

    In a truly free world, you could still do a security job if you liked that, but you would be working in the free market. Or, you could provide some kind of state security for people who still love the state. What you could not do is force anarchists, voluntaryists or others who do not believe in your preferred state to participate in supporting you, and your ability to enforce laws against them would be severely restricted (see my article here for an explanation of that statement, and pardon me for having some fun with cop foibles):
    http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle579-20100718-08.html

    Is that a world you could live with? If not, then don’t be surprised at that target on your back. People get annoyed when others fuck with them…

  42. Jackie Juntti Says:

    Hey Claire,
    I agree with your early statement of standing beside – er a few feet behind Mike V.
    I am one of those blessed to have met both you and Mike in person and I know what it is you are both made of.
    We need more folks who aren’t willing to bend over to grab the soap – rather that are willing and able to put that soap where it belongs and I don’t mean in the soap dish on the wall.
    This Ol’ Polish Woman won’t give up easily if at all. I think you know me well enough to know I will fight to the end… be it theirs or mine.
    Thank you for this item – I sent it on to my WGEN list so it will get wide coverage.

  43. Claire Says:

    katiej — Have you looked into how meth became such a dangerous drug? Why it went from being a fairly mild drug that bored housewives got from their doctors to being the cheap, powerful crystal meth that’s indeed ruined so many lives?

    If you look, you’ll find that prohibition — the drug war — both created crystal meth and shoved it into neighborhoods like mine.

    Here’s one article on that: http://mises.org/daily/4971.

    There are others that go more deeply into the problems of meth labs & such. Everything continues to trace back to government efforts to ban what can’t be banned.

  44. Claire Says:

    Thank you, Jackie. :-) I’ve never had the privilege of meeting Mike V. But I’ve met you — and though I know you and I have issues on which we disagree, if shootin’ ever starts, I sure wouldn’t want to be on the side opposite Grassroots Granny.

  45. Mt Top Patriot Says:

    Dear Ms. Wolfe,

    If you have a few moments, you would do well to read these 2 postings from Max Velocity.
    I believe you would get much from what Max has to say along the lines of what you have written here.

    Awesome words:

    http://maxvelocitytactical.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-home-invasion-dilemma-discussion.html

    http://maxvelocitytactical.blogspot.com/2013/08/following-my-recent-post-home-invasion.html

  46. Thinker Says:

    In the USSR the security apparatus also used to be in control, until finally the whole rotten system collapsed.
    The USA has become the USSA and is heading in the same direction as the former USSR. It’s only a matter of time, just sit back and relax.

  47. IndividualAudienceMember Says:

    What an interesting thread. I’m reminded of this, which, keep in mind, has at its backstop the preferable idea of Peace Keepers’ as opposed to ‘Law Enforcers':

    http://ericpetersautos.com/2013/06/15/i-hate-cops/

    I’m also reminded of a term they use at that website, ‘Clover’. But I won’t lay out any accusations. I just hope people learn what it means, and they avoid being one.

    Oh, that, and I hope every cop quits their job and seeks employment with a private security firm, or starts their own. Now that’s respectable. … Unless they become some kind of fascist Blackwater Pinkertons. That’d just be more of the same ole same ole.

    Claire wrote, “I’ve said many times that I like and respect most of the cops in my area”

    Whoa, that’s a surprise to read.and quite contradictory to the rest of your comment, “(though I disagree vehemently with the way they keep busting my harmless neighbors for the sake of the drug war)”

    You make no sense.You can’t have it both ways, imho.

    It’s as if you’re ignoring, How things change out from under us

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2009/05/12/how-things-change-out-from-under-us/

    It’s also as if you never read the novel, The Moon is Down.
    …How weird is that?

  48. IndividualAudienceMember Says:

    Claire wrote, “I’ve said many times that I like and respect most of the cops in my area”

    I’m not sure what you can write about that comment, but it seems I’ve lost all respect for you. …I think I’m going to throw up.

    I’ve never read you saying that, in fact, I seem to recall you conveying just the opposite thoughts when you described dogs being shot. Oh, but I guess that was the cops in other counties? As if the cops in your county are special?

    F! I really am on Mars. The planet of War.

  49. Seen this all before Says:

    very simple. folks:

    WHICH SIDE DO YOU CHOOSE?

    WHICH SIDE DO YOU CHOOSE?

    …seems to me a splendid immortal couple living in paradise had a choice, and wound up eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge; we all know the unintended consequences.

    KNOW YOUR CHOICE TO THE 1000th GENERATION!

  50. Reverend Draco Says:

    @ILtim:
    I understand. . . One person standing up for themselves will, very quickly, become a statistic.
    10 *million* people standing up for themselves are not so easily swept under the rug.

    “Critical Mass” is fast approaching, I believe. . .

  51. Praetor Says:

    I live in a small community of 400-t about 50-t miles from a city 600.000-t and the city con-ceders itself weird and they are proud of that, I’m more worried of them than the LEO’s. The Leo’s, swat or militarized police are not going to protect you from the crazies, “guarantied”. I am not an anarchist either I live by a city full of anarchist and these anarchist seem more organized than the government. I’m old enough to remember the hippie’s of the 60’s they reminded me of them assholes they change the world alright to what we have “NOW”. The ones in-charge are the anarchist of the 60’s thanks you freaks, out of this came, ( Hillary & Billary, BushyBob and their son O’Bumo ). Do I believe we live in SHTF times, YES, thanks to anarchical hippies. The one thing I have learned about a small community and 85 to 90% think as I do, we are in the war at this time, just not the led is flying faze. The thing you learn about a small community is government will always raise it’s ugly head even when there is no government the form of government is the issue. Our founders where brilliant GOD fearing men and lead by GOD to form a more perfect union and they did but with all humane ind-ever, imperfect government appears as are’s is and we all no why. All empires fall as are’s is. It’s a matter of time. All we can do, don’t stick your head in the sand be prepped, survive and pass the knowledge onto the the next batch of fools of what a good government is. GOD BLESS and never forget ALMIGHTY GOD, his hands are in this war with use. Good v. Evil always has been.

  52. Kyle Rearden Says:

    For anyone who is still in denial about how bad things have gotten, let me clear up something for you very simply — there is no peaceful solution. Got it? It’s about time y’all started learning about the old IRA in the 1920s and the French Maquis in the 1940s, because we’re occupied, just like they were. It’s time to start implementing The Plan for the Restoration of Constitutional Government (http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/plan.htm) already.

    And yes, receiving the so-called “benefits” of Ponzi scheme like Social (In)Security and Medicare is legitimizing the welfare state, and that is most certaintly wrong. The resistance you read about here is the very least of what is necessary if any of us are going to have a modicum of a chance at securing our Liberty. As Lysander Spooner infamously said, “Vices are not crimes,” so you control freaks can wind your necks right back in when it comes to alcohol (remember the success of Prohibition?), cannabis, or even meth. Besides, cops aren’t even constitutional anyway, so begging them to follow their oaths to the Constitution is not only ridiculous, but also counter-productive.

 
 


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
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